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Again, agree with everything you've written and my experiences are almost IDENTICAL. Except I tend to go for milf types in their mid-thirties to mid-forties range (I'm early 50s) and only if they host. It's a lot different than being with pros. Nothing wrong with pros (I still see Sps two or three times a month) but the heat and passion of being with an SB who wants to smash and gets off on being with YOU instead of an SP who just sees you as a walking wallet is completely different. Even the very best SP (and I've seen some great ones) doesn't really compare with being with even an average SB. And great SBs are out of this world.

But yeah, it's more work. Time and effort expended. Hassle and games sometimes. But you know... chicks be chicks. When they start on that nonsense, move on. Lots of fun to be had elsewhere.
Another thing to consider is that with an SP, as long as you have the $$$, and are not in some way totally disgusting, you qualify. With any real SB, there is least some degree of her having to like you. Not quite as much as actual dating, but you still have to woo her to some degree. Your pic, profile, saying the right things and then some in-person personality. It's not a slam dunk like with an SP. So in that sense, there is some of that feeling of satisfaction in yourself.

I had great, great times with hundreds of SPs and I have the utmost respect for them, but having a great SB who you get to spend a lot of quality time with, both in and out of the bedroom, without having to watch the clock, IMO, is much more satisfying.
 

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What I can say about my experience sugar dating is that that's how a lot of girls start out before they get into escorting. And the reason most of them transition to escorting is they realize they're being highly taken advantage of in a sugar dating scenario

Most girls who are on sugar dating have never had an experience where there's a monetary exchange and they don't know what to ask for. They don't know the boundaries and they don't know that they're allowed to have limits.

Sugar dating in my opinion is more of a control thing for the man. He's deciding what to give the girl and how long they should spend. And the monthly allowance is never what a girl would make an escorting

I look back to how many dudes took advantage of me when I was on seeking arrangement. And it's funny because half of them still see me now that I'm an escort and my rate is double what it was there.
 

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What I can say about my experience sugar dating is that that's how a lot of girls start out before they get into escorting. And the reason most of them transition to escorting is they realize they're being highly taken advantage of in a sugar dating scenario

Most girls who are on sugar dating have never had an experience where there's a monetary exchange and they don't know what to ask for. They don't know the boundaries and they don't know that they're allowed to have limits.

Sugar dating in my opinion is more of a control thing for the man. He's deciding what to give the girl and how long they should spend. And the monthly allowance is never what a girl would make an escorting

I look back to how many dudes took advantage of me when I was on seeking arrangement. And it's funny because half of them still see me now that I'm an escort and my rate is double what it was there.
I think thats true for some SBs but not all. There are some older ones that have children or part time job and do SB as a side hustle and know how much they are worth and charge according. There are some that are looking for a whale to take care of them like 2nd wife, wanting a paid apartment to live and monthly stipend
Yes there are younger girls that transition from SB to escorts too. They don’t know much about monetary exchange but to say all dudes take advantage isn’t necessary true. Some dude will mentor and to help facilitate the learning process to be an escort.
Escorts tells me of worse experience with agency and MP owners who give them undesirable clients when they are new to the biz ,charge ridiculous splits and make their feel obligated/owned and try to prevent they from being Indy.
And give them bad advice that might jeopardize their life in order to make a profit out from them
 
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What I can say about my experience sugar dating is that that's how a lot of girls start out before they get into escorting. And the reason most of them transition to escorting is they realize they're being highly taken advantage of in a sugar dating scenario

Most girls who are on sugar dating have never had an experience where there's a monetary exchange and they don't know what to ask for. They don't know the boundaries and they don't know that they're allowed to have limits.

Sugar dating in my opinion is more of a control thing for the man. He's deciding what to give the girl and how long they should spend. And the monthly allowance is never what a girl would make an escorting

I look back to how many dudes took advantage of me when I was on seeking arrangement. And it's funny because half of them still see me now that I'm an escort and my rate is double what it was there.
That’s interesting! From my experience I would say that 95%+ of the girls I’ve met up with will never become an SP so I wouldn’t say that most of them go that route. But that’s just how I’ve vetted during conversations and the ones I haven’t vetted enough probably make up that 5%. To your point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the number is a lot higher.

I had to figure my own way around the sugar dating as far as monetary exchange and in several instances there wasn’t any exchanged or, also to your point, the amount was really low compared to compensating an SP. And lots of texting to get to know each other before meeting, then meeting and if we’re into each other it can escalate - but only if there’s actual attraction. I totally get where you’re coming from and I’ve found many girls really want to date with benefits. They’ve gone on Tinder and get smashed and dumped so now they want to be treated like a lady, meet up somewhere nice and have everything paid for at a minimum because they’re not getting that treatment anywhere else. I’m an outgoing and sensitive guy who actually cares and how much they’re given depends on them and what I can do, so I’m always above board. I get a decent pulse on their needs and (trying not to say this one out too loud) in some instances I’ve even just sent them funds with zero expectation. It’s usually happened when I’m drunk and it’s end of the month and they’re freaking about rent so I’ll send them like 500.

I always set boundaries but there is sometimes a bit of a challenge because SB relationships are, by their very nature, more personal and can be way more intense than meeting up with an SP. A couple of girls I can think of that I don’t see in person anymore I actually love. Not in a creepy way but if they needed my help, I would do my best (and have actually) to do so.

Feedback I’ve had from several girls is that there are tons of asshole guys on sugar sites and that’s not really a surprise because so many guys are really like that. Also from my experience, girls asking for ongoing help that I’ve given each month are in school or working somewhere like retail and no they won’t get what they would get from escorting but they’re only sleeping with me (and in one case she was seeing one other guy) instead of a different guy every day. So much, once again, about attraction going both ways.

Some girls I’ve met up with multiple times end up going back to regular dating and I’m absolutely thrilled for them! That this is even available is still quite crazy to me but I try not to take it for granted. I want a super hot woman to have a “normal” dating life. If she likes me and wants to temporarily hook up then it’s at least a momentary, mutually fun, way to spend time together.
 
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That’s interesting! From my experience I would say that 95%+ of the girls I’ve met up with will never become an SP so I wouldn’t say that most of them go that route. But that’s just how I’ve vetted during conversations and the ones I haven’t vetted enough probably make up that 5%. To your point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the number is a lot higher.

I had to figure my own way around the sugar dating as far as monetary exchange and in several instances there wasn’t any exchanged or, also to your point, the amount was really low compared to compensating an SP. And lots of texting to get to know each other before meeting, then meeting and if we’re into each other it can escalate - but only if there’s actual attraction. I totally get where you’re coming from and I’ve found many girls really want to date with benefits. They’ve gone on Tinder and get smashed and dumped so now they want to be treated like a lady, meet up somewhere nice and have everything paid for at a minimum because they’re not getting that treatment anywhere else. I’m an outgoing and sensitive guy who actually cares and how much they’re given depends on them and what I can do, so I’m always above board. I get a decent pulse on their needs and (trying not to say this one out too loud) in some instances I’ve even just sent them funds with zero expectation. It’s usually happened when I’m drunk and it’s end of the month and they’re freaking about rent so I’ll send them like 500.

I always set boundaries but there is sometimes a bit of a challenge because SB relationships are, by their very nature, more personal and can be way more intense than meeting up with an SP. A couple of girls I can think of that I don’t see in person anymore I actually love. Not in a creepy way but if they needed my help, I would do my best (and have actually) to do so.

Feedback I’ve had from several girls is that there are tons of asshole guys on sugar sites and that’s not really a surprise because so many guys are really like that. Also from my experience, girls asking for ongoing help that I’ve given each month are in school or working somewhere like retail and no they won’t get what they would get from escorting but they’re only sleeping with me (and in one case she was seeing one other guy) instead of a different guy every day. So much, once again, about attraction going both ways.

Some girls I’ve met up with multiple times end up going back to regular dating and I’m absolutely thrilled for them! That this is even available is still quite crazy to me but I try not to take it for granted. I want a super hot woman to have a “normal” dating life. If she likes me and wants to temporarily hook up then it’s at least a momentary, mutually fun, way to spend time together.
Don't get me wrong I met you really amazing sugar daddies when I was sugar babying. I found that most of the rest of the guys were kind of like Splenda daddies. They didn't really have a whole lot of real sugar they just had a little bit of extra money but they thought they could spend on a girl

But I think as long as both parties are enjoying themselves then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I just found myself very quickly looking for less of a sugar daddy and more of a quick fuck. So it just made sense for me to transition into escorting. I was looking for less of a relationship and more just about getting buoyed by multiple people and stocking paper at the same time
. I mean I didn't even get into sex work until I was 39. And it was literally the best decision of my life. At 47 I'm still going strong
 

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So in other words, those really hot(SB) ones are fakes, don't really exist or super expensive? Maybe that's my problem, my eyes will gravitate towards the hot ones first. I don't really hobby much in the SP world either but I can understand what you mean, it's a very "in and out" kind of service. I always feel rushed like I'm missing that connection.
Absolutely not. I have met and had some unbelievably hot SBs. Hotter and younger than any SP and I’ve been hobbying for 20 years and SBing for 3. Legit 10s. And 500 for 3 hours. Shopping at PriceChopper with coupons on seniors day,
 
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Don't get me wrong I met you really amazing sugar daddies when I was sugar babying. I found that most of the rest of the guys were kind of like Splenda daddies. They didn't really have a whole lot of real sugar they just had a little bit of extra money but they thought they could spend on a girl

But I think as long as both parties are enjoying themselves then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I just found myself very quickly looking for less of a sugar daddy and more of a quick fuck. So it just made sense for me to transition into escorting. I was looking for less of a relationship and more just about getting buoyed by multiple people and stocking paper at the same time
. I mean I didn't even get into sex work until I was 39. And it was literally the best decision of my life. At 47 I'm still going strong
That’s great you were able to transition nicely and hope it’s always a great experience for you! Love that for you 😊
 

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That’s interesting! From my experience I would say that 95%+ of the girls I’ve met up with will never become an SP so I wouldn’t say that most of them go that route. But that’s just how I’ve vetted during conversations and the ones I haven’t vetted enough probably make up that 5%. To your point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the number is a lot higher.

I had to figure my own way around the sugar dating as far as monetary exchange and in several instances there wasn’t any exchanged or, also to your point, the amount was really low compared to compensating an SP. And lots of texting to get to know each other before meeting, then meeting and if we’re into each other it can escalate - but only if there’s actual attraction. I totally get where you’re coming from and I’ve found many girls really want to date with benefits. They’ve gone on Tinder and get smashed and dumped so now they want to be treated like a lady, meet up somewhere nice and have everything paid for at a minimum because they’re not getting that treatment anywhere else. I’m an outgoing and sensitive guy who actually cares and how much they’re given depends on them and what I can do, so I’m always above board. I get a decent pulse on their needs and (trying not to say this one out too loud) in some instances I’ve even just sent them funds with zero expectation. It’s usually happened when I’m drunk and it’s end of the month and they’re freaking about rent so I’ll send them like 500.

I always set boundaries but there is sometimes a bit of a challenge because SB relationships are, by their very nature, more personal and can be way more intense than meeting up with an SP. A couple of girls I can think of that I don’t see in person anymore I actually love. Not in a creepy way but if they needed my help, I would do my best (and have actually) to do so.

Feedback I’ve had from several girls is that there are tons of asshole guys on sugar sites and that’s not really a surprise because so many guys are really like that. Also from my experience, girls asking for ongoing help that I’ve given each month are in school or working somewhere like retail and no they won’t get what they would get from escorting but they’re only sleeping with me (and in one case she was seeing one other guy) instead of a different guy every day. So much, once again, about attraction going both ways.

Some girls I’ve met up with multiple times end up going back to regular dating and I’m absolutely thrilled for them! That this is even available is still quite crazy to me but I try not to take it for granted. I want a super hot woman to have a “normal” dating life. If she likes me and wants to temporarily hook up then it’s at least a momentary, mutually fun, way to spend time together.
Yes, couldn't agree more. If you have money and expectations are different. Sometime I like to smash someone not that experience, so I am leading the session. I go see a sp at hpl and spend 320 or spend 8 hours with SB for 500 pay and 120 dayuse hotel with Uber eats. More romantic and have fun anyway you feel like.
 

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That's pretty ageist. I'm 47 and I make a good living as a sex worker. My body Rivals that of girls half my age to say that someone is 50 and they should be paying you it's just a really misogynistic comment. I'm sure it was meant as a joke but it just comes off as rude
At your advanced age you should recognize humour when you see it.
 
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Guys, has anyone used Hinge and SDM both. Can you share experience on both, which is user friendly and effective.

If you want to send DM, it is fine
 
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I met a few ladies via Hinge , even on a free account ( no ppm , but gifts and requests for grocery money etc. Less transactional - closer to vanilla dating ) . But lots of messages and time. I got banned this week .... smh . I wasn't harassing . No recourse. Appeal not successful . This is a common occurrence from Google search. SDM has a small female user base. I have met a few ladies on that site as well
 
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That’s interesting! From my experience I would say that 95%+ of the girls I’ve met up with will never become an SP I would say that 95%+ of the girls I’ve met up with will never become an SP
An escort I saw a while back had just lost her sugar daddy (I didn't ask) and was selling it through one of the larger agencies. I passed on the tempting opportunity (she was smokin' and had an engaging personality). Said she was looking for someone to pay rent.
 
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Guys, has anyone used Hinge and SDM both. Can you share experience on both, which is user friendly and effective.

If you want to send DM, it is fine
I tried SDM but way more girls on a different platform. I think Hinge is regular dating so I can’t use it for confidentiality - or can I still? Not sure
 
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I met a few ladies via Hinge , even on a free account ( no ppm , but gifts and requests for grocery money etc. Less transactional - closer to vanilla dating ) . But lots of messages and time. I got banned this week .... smh . I wasn't harassing . No recourse. Appeal not successful . This is a common occurrence from Google search. SDM has a small female user base. I have met a few ladies on that site as well
Banned for what? did they say?
 

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Banned for what? did they say?
BS -
Lots of random Hinge banned stories . and PITA to open an new account without getting banned again ' new phone, new phone # , different photos ( erase Meta Data ) etc .

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hmm I didn't realized they're so tight on their policies. I noticed some girls they're accounts disappeared for some reason so I guess it happens to them too. So unless you used a different number, you'll remained banned?
 
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Is SDM starting to eclipse Seeking or is Seeking still the top?
Outside from North America, Seeking is probably still better just because of the name recognition and more members. SDM is great in Canada and USA, though, it's cheaper, and you don't get banned if if you try and negotiate on the site, though lately I've seen some profiles on Seeking that have PPM spelled out funny like "P* PM"

On the other hand, you see a lot of girls on both sides, and a couple of familiar faces from other places:

https://members.seeking.com/member/9b425b19-455f-4be1-9ac3-eb6bbc39d8a7

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=73087826

(a couple of ladies from Seduction and other spas/agencies are on these sites)

So yes, I prefer SDM myself, but both have lots of room to grow :)
 
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