Typically 600-800What’s her ppm if you know?
She dates a lot of out of towners
Typically 600-800What’s her ppm if you know?
I don’t think it makes a difference how long they’ve been on Seeking. Most girls I’ve been with are doing it as a side gig for some extra cash, and most would prefer to find a longer term daddy who they like and treats them well. In general that is, obviously some are pros who are just escorting.I'm hesitant to message potential SBs that have a profile older than a few months . If they have been on SA a few years , I suspect they will be $$$ . What are your thoughts and experiences.
Yes, I know some guys have luck with Secret Benefits, but I think it's too easy to spend credits - heck if the girl gives you access to her private photos, SB charges you credit to see them. That last part make me think it's all about getting creits off you. I'm sticking to SDM or maybe Seeking for getting paid accounts for now.Secret Benefits. What a bullshit site . Nickel and diming . I was charged 20 credits for looking at the 2 photos of books that a potential SB sent
200 credits for $89 . 10 credits for the initial message - no further charge on all subsequent messages . If you sent a photo - 10 credits. If you look at her secret photos - 10 credit charge, to check if your sent message was read - 10 credits. Only positive ; credits don't expire. I have had some success on the site , but .....
It's a scam site by design that aims to get you to burn your credits. They even used cloud workers to create profiles and respond to chats.Secret Benefits. What a bullshit site . Nickel and diming . I was charged 20 credits for looking at the 2 photos of books that a potential SB sent
200 credits for $89 . 10 credits for the initial message - no further charge on all subsequent messages . If you sent a photo - 10 credits. If you look at her secret photos - 10 credit charge, to check if your sent message was read - 10 credits. Only positive ; credits don't expire. I have had some success on the site , but .....
Wanted to drop a note here as a warning for everyone. Little bit long - apologies for that.
TDLR: SB is even more of a scam now; and I they think may be sharing people's private photos without their knowledge. I would 100% avoid.
I've tried using SB in the past; have never had an arrangement from it, but did have a number of conversations. SB was always borderline shady; they would "fake" send you messages, to get you to pay credits to unlock it. So you had to rely on "favoriting", and women unlocking their pictures - as a sign they were actually interested. This had worked for me well in the past. Any woman that shared their pictures with me - also responded (at least initially) to a message. Common sense, right?
The key to SB was to buy a large amount of credits at once, when they would go on sale. Just starting up again after covid - I had about 700 credits remaining. So decided to try using them.
My practice roughly was:
What has been happening now? Women will return my favorites - I'll message, but no response. However, they will share their private photos over. (which I have to "pay" more credits to unlock).
- Favorite a profile first.
- Wait for her to favorite me back.
- Send her a message, share my photos. Unlock my photos.
I've now messaged about 20 women in my area - that had all "favorited" me; and after I messaged, all shared their "private photos" over to me.
Not a single one - ever sent me a message back. Obviously - I'm not stupid. I could see the trend. But at this point, I decided to just burn through my remaining credits to get more data.
Any conclusion? I think they are turning legitimate accounts women setup - into "bot" accounts (in lack of a better term). And they may be sharing private photos - without their knowledge.
Anyway - would suggest anyone that has used it in the past - consider removing your private photos / shutting down your account.
The SB's don't care if you are 40 or 50. I've had one that liked my dirty talk and said she didn't want money, just sex, but all others want money. I had one recently that was cute, wanted $350. But couldn't suck dick very well. Most in GTA, good looking, not straight up LL girls, want $500. My ppm is $400 but will do $500 after the first date if I like them. I refuse more than $500 under any circumstances. But I also will pay for a few cocktails, which is basically another $100, I've even stopped in a lingerie store with them and bought something. But never a monthly or over $500. Also, it is critical to meet them first for a drink. You need to make sure their pics are accurate and not obviously on drugs or likely to be setting you up. Only go with girls that have a decently written profile unless you want a LL girl using the seeking site for more biz.Yes, I know some guys have luck with Secret Benefits, but I think it's too easy to spend credits - heck if the girl gives you access to her private photos, SB charges you credit to see them. That last part make me think it's all about getting creits off you. I'm sticking to SDM or maybe Seeking for getting paid accounts for now.
Btw, saw this on another sugar forum, they took some data from a Reddit post and came up with what guys said they were paying for sugar babies. It's self-reported, but gives you an idea of what guys say they're paying.
A few points from the chart. I'm in my 40s now, but feel these numbers feel right.
* if you're under 30, shouldn't be paying more than $300-400 for a PPM.
* The average monthly amount is $2000 or less for those under 25.
* average monthly amount $4-6000 for guys in 40s/50s.
* most sugar relationships last less than 4-6 months
What was the damage?Did my first overnighter. Not as big event as I imagine. Had sex in the evening then We both slept. What is feels good to have someone ready and willing when I wake up with a morning wood.
Start reading this thread from the beginning.Would anyone suggest me how to start into this world ?
profiles/pics I see on seeking is fake ,most of those.
How you guys start and how you carry on till deed ?
Well I would just get the one breast implant to start and see if you like it then you know whatever.Would anyone suggest me how to start into this world ?
profiles/pics I see on seeking is fake ,most of those.
How you guys start and how you carry on till deed ?
Start reading this thread from the beginning.
Once done there are other thread about sugar baby-ing. Also read those and once done, get a nice pic of you and then register.
Paying ANY AMOUNT in advance for ANYTHING is a total mistake. Tell them you never pay anything in advance to someone you've never and do not budge. Let 'em walk if they don't like it. It is the biggest mistake that you can make.I got another one month membership on Seeking partly in preparation for a trip to the east coast ; where there are fewer SBs. I've been messaging a potential SB for a day . Already a request for a $65 e-transfer for phone bill - " so my service doesn't get cut off " I have fallen for this a few times , always a regret . And always a regret to pay in advance during an ongoing arrangement . What opinions do you guys have about this ?
I think you secretly like them regrets and you should continue being yourself and always pay in advanceI got another one month membership on Seeking partly in preparation for a trip to the east coast ; where there are fewer SBs. I've been messaging a potential SB for a day . Already a request for a $65 e-transfer for phone bill - " so my service doesn't get cut off " I have fallen for this a few times , always a regret . And always a regret to pay in advance during an ongoing arrangement . What opinions do you guys have about this ?
That's some good points, I factor in the cost of a hotel and some drinks/dinner when I'm doing the math in my head. You can save money if you have them over to your place, but don't like having people over the first few times because there is a possibility they're scoping your place out. For some reason, I've had two cash-and-dash situations; both were ladies from Barrie (whatever that means). I guess, in hindsight, what was going on was pretty clear. For this reason now I don't give the girl any money at the start of the meet-up.The SB's don't care if you are 40 or 50. I've had one that liked my dirty talk and said she didn't want money, just sex, but all others want money. I had one recently that was cute, wanted $350. But couldn't suck dick very well. Most in GTA, good looking, not straight up LL girls, want $500. My ppm is $400 but will do $500 after the first date if I like them. I refuse more than $500 under any circumstances. But I also will pay for a few cocktails, which is basically another $100, I've even stopped in a lingerie store with them and bought something. But never a monthly or over $500. Also, it is critical to meet them first for a drink. You need to make sure their pics are accurate and not obviously on drugs or likely to be setting you up. Only go with girls that have a decently written profile unless you want a LL girl using the seeking site for more biz.
If you're visiting (I've done this before, too; it's fun, but try to set up things with 2-3 girls, as at least one girl will ghost as soon as your plane lands). I'd use the fact that you're arriving soon to your advantage, tell them you'll be visiting next week, and you'll definitely cover their whole bill in-person then. Play along, too; let them know phone companies will let you keep your service if you can commit to paying the bill by a certain date (like in the next week or so).I got another one month membership on Seeking partly in preparation for a trip to the east coast ; where there are fewer SBs. I've been messaging a potential SB for a day . Already a request for a $65 e-transfer for phone bill - " so my service doesn't get cut off " I have fallen for this a few times , always a regret . And always a regret to pay in advance during an ongoing arrangement . What opinions do you guys have about this ?
There's an SP on one of the SD/SB sites that also on LL. Pimp hides in the room and pulls a knife on you. See the below thread:Also, it is critical to meet them first for a drink. You need to make sure their pics are accurate and not obviously on drugs or likely to be setting you up.
Asking to wash your hands in the bathroom is a good idea before even taking off your jacket. It seems like good survival advice anytime you visit the ladies these days, 100% if you found said lady on LeoListThere's an SP on one of the SD/SB sites that also on LL. Pimp hides in the room and pulls a knife on you. See the below thread: