You joined June 2009 and have 9759 post. I joined December 2008 and this will be my 21st.
Ya dude I'm the shut in.
snow tires
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Ya dude I'm the shut in.
Shut in has little to do with time on the computer/BB.
You're just don't pay attention, that's all. Don't you know, I get paid to be on here. My work these days keeps me here on my computers and this funny farm keeps me laughing during the boring times when I'm on hold or waiting for the CPU's to do their magic. Some people actually learn some useful things in these page; others, not so much.
Tell that to all the large commercial trucks and buses on the roads as well. They run on the same tires year round as well yet they aren't smashing into you en masse in the winter are they? I've been driving for 24 years now and I've never hit anyone. I've been rear ended 3 times though none of them were major.
In my opinion in the city of Toronto and immediate surrounding areas out of 365 days they may be snow covered what? Half a dozen? City Works does a good job clearing the roads. In snowbelt areas I would buy winter tires but I don't live in a snowbelt.
Some people should receive separation papers for Christmas since their existence seems redundant.
You staring at your belt line again? Still not paying attention. I'm the boss these days.
24 posts in two years just says you've done a lot of lurking, but now you feel you have something to offer this BB. No big deal.
The last couple of winters here we've had below normal snow fall accumulations. I would think that played a major factor into that statistic in Quebec as well.
Re. truck tire discussion.
If you ever take a look at heavy rig commercial truck tires; well, they already look like expensive, heavy duty, super high end, snow tires; so, that might have something to do with why they don't need to do seasonal change over.
In any case heavy truck tires have to be well engineered and expensive because, as a set, they have to hold up weights totaling 110,000 pounds and not explode from too much pressure.
Heavy rig tire blow outs can cause accidents and carnage on the roads. It's just the nature of the beast that they are much more expensive than passenger car tires because the demands they are subjected to are a million times more severe than what passenger car tires are asked to do.
I'm sure trucking companies in northern climates would be freaking out if they had to switch tire sets around twice a year; but, it's not necessary because of how the tires are engineered in the first place.
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Heavy rig tire pictures:
http://www.sminc.ca/smincweb/heavy_commercial_truck_tires.htm
If you ever take a look at heavy rig commercial truck tires; well, they already look like expensive, heavy duty, super high end, snow tires; so, that might have something to do with why they don't need to do seasonal change over.
In any case heavy truck tires have to be well engineered and expensive because, as a set, they have to hold up weights totaling 110,000 pounds and not explode from too much pressure.
Heavy rig tire blow outs can cause accidents and carnage on the roads. It's just the nature of the beast that they are much more expensive than passenger car tires because the demands they are subjected to are a million times more severe than what passenger car tires are asked to do.
I'm sure trucking companies in northern climates would be freaking out if they had to switch tire sets around twice a year; but, it's not necessary because of how the tires are engineered in the first place.
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Heavy rig tire pictures:
http://www.sminc.ca/smincweb/heavy_commercial_truck_tires.htm
Lots of information here...http://www.tirerack.com/winter/wintertesting.jsp
Your original rims are 17" so I assume your tire speed rating on your car is H or higher. Here are top performing performance winter tires from consumer reports.
1-Nokian WR G2
2-Hankook Winter i*cept evo
3-Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3
4-Goodyear Ultra Grip Performance 2
5-Continental ContiWinterContact TS830 P
Whichever of those 5 I just listed get the cheapest ones because they all performed very similar in snow and ice traction, noise, handling, ride, braking etc.
sorry i missed the word "less" i thought you said your tires were 6 years old.
For those who think winter tires are noisy, as they use to be, my Toyo snows are quieter than my Continental All Seasons. It blew me away.
Why should an Automatic affect the speedometer reading differently than a manual transmission?
If you respect the original tire diameter specs. it shouln't make any difference.
Am I missing something here?
TB;
Your comments about winter ice tires and snow tires has been mentioned before, but it's worth a repeat. When you're buying tires you have to decide what you going to being driving on more and buy accordingly.
Also mentioned before is the fact hat 4X$ have a problem, they're hard to stop because the engine power is sent to all the wheels and they resist equally and that is a reason for a lot of 4X4s ending up in the wrong places
The earliest head to head test I'm aware of were done in Scandinavia in the mid 60's. The tread designs and tire compounds have improve exponentially since then.
Your comments about winter ice tires and snow tires has been mentioned before, but it's worth a repeat. When you're buying tires you have to decide what you going to being driving on more and buy accordingly.
Also mentioned before is the fact hat 4X$ have a problem, they're hard to stop because the engine power is sent to all the wheels and they resist equally and that is a reason for a lot of 4X4s ending up in the wrong places
The earliest head to head test I'm aware of were done in Scandinavia in the mid 60's. The tread designs and tire compounds have improve exponentially since then.
Good points, but the way you present them lead me to believe you don't have many friends, do you?
True, they did sell a car off their lot, but they also enherited one - your used one. My only point was that acquiring a newer vehicle thru a dealership with a trade in is only done at a profit to them. They are not charities, and would only accommodate you if there were a profit. Don't mean to be rude, it's just your original post made it sound like you acquired more "vehicle" at no expense to yourself. Somewhere someone profited, and somewhere someone paid for it.
I'm sure the dealer made a profit... I agree that's why they're in business. But it may not have been cash. True they inherited my old car, but the Toyota dealer I deal with only has new cars on his lot, if you want a used car you have to go up the street to the Toyota Used Car sales lot. So perhaps some of his profit was that he got to book more new car sales while the trade-ins get transferred over to the Used Car lot's books. He also said something along the lines of it wouldn't take long to resell my trade-in so there's another place the dealer(s) can profit. (I didn't pay too close attention as I really didn't care what they did with my old car after I got my trade-in for it... lol)
But from my point of view I profited as well.... I have a newer and better car for only a little more per month and with less per month in insurance than the old car.
Can't both the dealer and I be winners?
