You joined June 2009 and have 9759 post. I joined December 2008 and this will be my 21st.Sounds like a shut in to me RM.
Ya dude I'm the shut in.
You joined June 2009 and have 9759 post. I joined December 2008 and this will be my 21st.Sounds like a shut in to me RM.
I agree 100%. My tires are new last summer.tires that are 6 years old are unsafe no matter the amount of tread on them, all season or otherwise. not saying change them for the conditions all season tires are fine if you drive according to the conditions. hell i got summer tires on and have no plans to change them at all till they wear out. 6 years though is to long for your tires and they do need to be changed.
Shut in has little to do with time on the computer/BB.You joined June 2009 and have 9759 post. I joined December 2008 and this will be my 21st.
Ya dude I'm the shut in.
Tell that to all the large commercial trucks and buses on the roads as well. They run on the same tires year round as well yet they aren't smashing into you en masse in the winter are they? I've been driving for 24 years now and I've never hit anyone. I've been rear ended 3 times though none of them were major.It actually doesn't bother me at all. I discuss snow tires here for the same reason you do; because this is a discussion forum.
I suppose it should bother me more than you seeing as others not using winter compound tires put me at risk from them hitting me.
Some people should receive separation papers for Christmas since their existence seems redundant.Shut in has little to do with time on the computer/BB.
You're just don't pay attention, that's all. Don't you know, I get paid to be on here. My work these days keeps me here on my computers and this funny farm keeps me laughing during the boring times when I'm on hold or waiting for the CPU's to do their magic. Some people actually learn some useful things in these page; others, not so much.
You staring at your belt line again? Still not paying attention. I'm the boss these days.Some people should receive separation papers for Christmas since their existence seems redundant.
The last couple of winters here we've had below normal snow fall accumulations. I would think that played a major factor into that statistic in Quebec as well.Apparently when snow tires were made mandatory in the province of Quebec the accident rate dropped 18% in the winter.
http://www.thestarphoenix.com/story_print.html?id=3943368&sponsor=
Commercial tires are markedly different from passenger tires.Tell that to all the large commercial trucks and buses on the roads as well. They run on the same tires year round as well yet they aren't smashing into you en masse in the winter are they?
Lots of information here...http://www.tirerack.com/winter/wintertesting.jspdoes anybody know anything about them? I want to get some. I currently have 17 inch rims and tires. If I were to buy winter tires, can I go down in size, like 16 inch tires and rims? thx
sorry i missed the word "less" i thought you said your tires were 6 years old.I agree 100%. My tires are new last summer.
You can as long as the original spec overall diameter is the maintained, otherwise your speedomter will be affected, especially if you drive automatic.
So if you drop down to 16", you will need a taller wall and less tire width based on availabilty. ie P215/40/17 = P205/55/16.
Check your current tire wall, what size is it?
http://www.getnitrogen.org/pdf/graham.pdfOk, N2 filled tires don't leak as much through the rubber as O2 filled tires because the N2 molecule is larger. The N2 won't react with the rubber the same way, if at all, as O2 does causing weakness in the rubber on the inside. The cost is $20.00 once in the life of my set of tires which cost an average of $600.00. How many bottle of water do some people buy in 4 years. Don't worry, i don't buy much bottled water at all.
Then for those who don't have air compressors around their house or in the car, the gas stations are charging for top ups now.
Good points, but the way you present them lead me to believe you don't have many friends, do you?Terb, the gathering point for single dimensional problem solvers.
At best, winter tires expand the performance envelope of the vehicle in winter weather. I say at best, because designing winter tires means focusing on one design parameter over others (or you get an all-season tire) but I’ll get to that later.
So winter tires expand the performance envelope. But so does front wheel drive (vs rear wheel), all wheel drive, and four wheel drive. We don’t see any of them in the ditch do we? Well maybe we do. But why? They are more capable than two wheel rear wheel drive vehicles. Could it be that people drive to their comfort level, and when the vehicle capability is improved they drive faster? So that road that in your old rear wheel drive Caprice you could do at 30 km/hr do you drive safer in your all wheel drive BMW at 30? Or do you drive at 50 because the vehicle feels more stable? And run the same risk of running off the road.
Oh but many of the supporters of winter tires here also bemoan the “idiots” in their SUVs that are in the ditch. Apparently the improved winter driving capability of all/four wheel drive is frittered away in stupidity, but winter tires; now there’s a technology that will make the difference. They won’t overdrive winter tires; even if they squander the technical advantages of front/all/four wheel drive.
REALLY? What colour is the sun in your world?
On the point of tire design. Talk to people in the driving business, not the tire business. Winter tires have significant design tradeoffs. Those best on ice (you know the ones they advertise for all of us that normally drive in hockey rinks) will be worse in deep snow, and vice versa. The beauty of all season tires is that compromise is the design goal. The other option is to make all season tires with softer rubber (which is basically what the new four season tires are), let’s see how that works in 30+ degree weather at 130k. There is a reason racers shave street tires in the classes they must run street tires.
The only comprehensive winter tire tests out there (where they go brand against brand in a range of tests with DATA) is in Europe where big car clubs do them. Manufacturers seem to avoid direct tests with data (hmmm wonder why). And those tests illustrate the problem. A good snow tire is a poor ice tire, a good ice tire is a poor snow tire, if you are in slush the tire needs to expel water which a good snow or ice tire may not do, etc. Oh, and unfortunately the specific tires sold and tested in Europe are not (with a few exceptions sold in Canada).
The best compromise tire in those tests is an all season style made with softer rubber .. or you could just drive slower with your all seasons.
So there is hope for the future.Terb is even more full of people staring at their bellybuttons.
Tread design for snow, ice, etc... blah blah blah... in COLD weather the worst winter tire is better at STOPPING your car and keeping it going in the direction you want, than the best all season.
What that is worth to you is the big question.
In my case, this is the first winter in my history of car ownership that I'm not buying winter tires.
My vehicle is a lease takeover going back March 1 and I live downtown and might drive another 2k this winter. Nowhere special and if it is bad weather I don't need to be anywhere anyways!
My values for THIS year anyways!
True, they did sell a car off their lot, but they also enherited one - your used one. My only point was that acquiring a newer vehicle thru a dealership with a trade in is only done at a profit to them. They are not charities, and would only accommodate you if there were a profit. Don't mean to be rude, it's just your original post made it sound like you acquired more "vehicle" at no expense to yourself. Somewhere someone profited, and somewhere someone paid for it.They get to sell the cars off their lot I guess. I'm sure they made a profit... what's wrong with that? You said (or at least that's my understanding) that I lost out. I'd like to know where as I don't claim to be an expert when it comes to automobile finances? The only place I can really see it is that I could likely have made more selling the car myself, but you have to subtract the value of my time and hassle of doing that from the extra profit. Since my vehicles are far closer to the bottom end of the car market than to the top end, there's not a whole lot of difference between the trade-in I got and the expected private sale price.
I'm sure the dealer made a profit... I agree that's why they're in business. But it may not have been cash. True they inherited my old car, but the Toyota dealer I deal with only has new cars on his lot, if you want a used car you have to go up the street to the Toyota Used Car sales lot. So perhaps some of his profit was that he got to book more new car sales while the trade-ins get transferred over to the Used Car lot's books. He also said something along the lines of it wouldn't take long to resell my trade-in so there's another place the dealer(s) can profit. (I didn't pay too close attention as I really didn't care what they did with my old car after I got my trade-in for it... lol)True, they did sell a car off their lot, but they also enherited one - your used one. My only point was that acquiring a newer vehicle thru a dealership with a trade in is only done at a profit to them. They are not charities, and would only accommodate you if there were a profit. Don't mean to be rude, it's just your original post made it sound like you acquired more "vehicle" at no expense to yourself. Somewhere someone profited, and somewhere someone paid for it.