Self Checkout in stores

tboy

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Contractors are the same as any other customer who shops in a store like Home Depot. What makes them feel that they are special. I've seen contractors park in handicap spots. This is the kind of shit that should be enforced.......
We are special....why you ask? Because we are the store's bread and butter. We spend twice to 10 times and as much as 100 times as much as the average homeowner and we are there almost every day purchasing or renting items.

For eg: the average home owner will go in when he say, wants to put down hardwood flooring. Once he's done that project, the store might not see him again for a year.

Just myself alone I've done about 10 hardwood flooring jobs worth about $5,000.00 each. So just right there, I spent $50,000.00 where joe blow homeowner spent maybe $3,000.00.

If you've ever been to a homo depot at 7 or 8 am you'd see a lineup of contractors loading up with thousands of dollars worth of materials EVERY morning and maybe one or two homeowners buying 10 2 x 4s.
 

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tboy said:
We are special....why you ask? Because we are the store's bread and butter. We spend twice to 10 times and as much as 100 times as much as the average homeowner and we are there almost every day purchasing or renting items.

For eg: the average home owner will go in when he say, wants to put down hardwood flooring. Once he's done that project, the store might not see him again for a year.

Just myself alone I've done about 10 hardwood flooring jobs worth about $5,000.00 each. So just right there, I spent $50,000.00 where joe blow homeowner spent maybe $3,000.00.

If you've ever been to a homo depot at 7 or 8 am you'd see a lineup of contractors loading up with thousands of dollars worth of materials EVERY morning and maybe one or two homeowners buying 10 2 x 4s.


That still does not excuse using a handicap spot.


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LancsLad said:
That still does not excuse using a handicap spot.


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Never said it did.......but look at it this way: if you're so handicapped that you MUST park near the front door, how are you going to drywall a basement? build a deck? plumb, tile and renovate a bathroom? Insulate an attic?

BTW: I am curious, diddy, did that contractor who parked in the spot have a handicapped tag hanging from his rear view mirror? Or did you check? Easily 90% of the people I see using handicapped spots (with the tag) hop out of their car and go sauntering into stores walking better than I do......

Not to knock the physically challenged or anything, but if you need to park near the front door because you can't walk from the other spots, how the heck are they going to walk to the rear of the store, pickup a sheet of plywood, and then walk back to the checkout?
 

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tboy said:
Screw a cashier's job, when I'm buying material for a customer I"M LOSING MONEY and the faster I can get in and out of the store, the better for me.

Now if they had contractor only checkout lanes, I'd tend to agree but Homo Depot doesn't even enforce the contractor only parking spots so they aren't ever going to do that.......
And don't you just love those, self-important, contractor types who think it's ok that they clog up the area around the the overhead doors, with their trucks, while they're inside doing their shopping?!:(
 

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johnnyone1 said:
And don't you just love those, self-important, contractor types who think it's ok that they clog up the area around the the overhead doors, with their trucks, while they're inside doing their shopping?!:(
Yup, cause all the contractor spots are taken by homeowners going in to buy a box of 25 wood screws for $1.29 and they're in buying a load of lumber for $8,000.00
 

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tboy said:
Yup, cause all the contractor spots are taken by homeowners going in to buy a box of 25 wood screws for $1.29 and they're in buying a load of lumber for $8,000.00


Let's stick to the principle and not bring money into this equation.

Some of us humble "homeowners" have done quite well and do spend a lot of money at the despot. I have never used a handicap spot unless I was taking a handicapped person with me and had the card in my window. Just because I have a lot of money that doesn't "entitle" me to the designated space.

Hell, they are not legally enforceable but I never use the "expectant mother" spots or "parents with toddlers" spots that some stores signpost in their lots. It is a simple matter of common courtesy. But then again, much like sense, courtesy isn't that common anymore.



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Sorry Lanc, but money DOES buy special treatment in our society as surfbum and others are so quick to point out. Just look at the criminal cases, those with money tend to be better treated than those without.

Put it another way: As a business ownerm do you want to keep the guy who spends $1,000.00 a week, every week, coming back or do you want to push him aside for the guy who comes in and spends $200.00 once every six months?

There's another side to the equation too: It takes a shit load of money to get customers in your store. Do you want a good ROI on that investment or a shitty one?
 

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tboy said:
As a business owner do you want to keep the guy who spends $1,000.00 a week, every week, coming back or do you want to push him aside for the guy who comes in and spends $200.00 once every six months?
I know a few business owners and they say that the "small ticket" guy is also high maintenance because he doesn't know his stuff like the pros. Tboy can walk in, gets what he wants, pays his $1,000 and is gone. No fuss. Meantime the small ticket guy will still be in the store for another hour bothering staff.
 

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Meantime the small ticket guy will still be in the store for another hour bothering staff.
At H.D. ? Good luck with that... :p
 

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tboy said:
Just look at the criminal cases, those with money tend to be better treated than those without.
Not true. Those with a good lawyer are treated better than those without. And a good lawyer costs money.

If a wealthy man walked into court without a lawyer and expected to be treated better because he's wealthy, he'd be in for a rude surprise.

As for parking spaces for the disabled, there is no excuse for parking in them if you're not disabled. Anyone who does, IMO, should immediately receive a huge fine ($5K sounds good for the first offense) and lose points. Same for those with fake permits. I don't care how much money you spend or how important you think you are.
 

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Well, one could argue that being able to afford a good lawyer is an offshoot of having money......

Now take the recent Paris Hilton case for example. Do you think her lawyer got her a private cell away from general population? (now you could also argue that that was because she was (in)famous)

But, as always, we're getting off topic....the point is: a repeat customer who spends a large amount of money should get and deserves to get, better or preferential treatment hence why HD put up those (ignored) signs.....they recognize the value of the contractor and his (or her) business......
 

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tboy said:
a repeat customer who spends a large amount of money should get and deserves to get, better or preferential treatment
Wonder if this also applies to the sex trade?
 

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So should there be Contractor Only self checkout lanes?

Getting back to the topic sorta snideways.
 

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Rockslinger said:
Wonder if this also applies to the sex trade?
Well, yup it does. On the simplest terms just look at the multi hour discounts offerred by most sps?

oldjones said:
So should there be Contractor Only self checkout lanes?

Getting back to the topic sorta snideways.
HELL yes....OMFG yes, OOOoooOOHHHH YEAH (not to sound like that Cashman Peter Oliver dude lol)
 

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tboy said:
Sorry Lanc, but money DOES buy special treatment in our society as surfbum and others are so quick to point out. Just look at the criminal cases, those with money tend to be better treated than those without.

Put it another way: As a business ownerm do you want to keep the guy who spends $1,000.00 a week, every week, coming back or do you want to push him aside for the guy who comes in and spends $200.00 once every six months?

There's another side to the equation too: It takes a shit load of money to get customers in your store. Do you want a good ROI on that investment or a shitty one?

I applaud money buying special treatment when it is warranted.


The focus of my comment was as regards your agreement with contractors using a handicap spot because they are oh so important and in a rush. No amount of money negates the statutes on the provincial books that govern the use of handicap spots. Your arrogant and insensitive comments that they don't need those spots because as handicapped how can they ever use the stuff the depot sells is disgusting, and as we say, JUST NOT ON.

Sure i love what my money can get me, quality health care in the US expensive cars and exotic holidays but at no time does that detract from an obligation to extend common courtesy to disabled people, as we through the legislature have decided we will.

I understand the dynamics of a business, have a few myself so I get how the whole thing works. that was not the issue. You may carry that arguement on with others if you wish but my point was and is about the parking spots. Focus on that issue and hopefully you can see my point.


Otherwise carry on.


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Lanc: I never once said it was "ok for a contractor to use a handicapped parking spot".....not once.

As for whether a handicapped person can use the stuff at home depot is BANG ON. So, according to the reasons there are such things is to make it a shorter trip/easier to get them into the store is it not? If this is the case, if they can't walk across the parking lot, then please explain to me how they are going to get to the back of the store?

You may think it's insensitive, but I think it's realistic. Kind of like how there are no driving schools catering specifically to blind people......

Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not saying there shouldn't be handicapped spots, or handicapped spots shouldn't be available or that anyone should use them, but it is kind of silly to say "here, here's a spot close to the door because you can't walk across the parking lot" when the store itself is actually the same size or bigger than the parking lot.....
 

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tboy said:
Lanc: I never once said it was "ok for a contractor to use a handicapped parking spot".....not once.

As for whether a handicapped person can use the stuff at home depot is BANG ON. So, according to the reasons there are such things is to make it a shorter trip/easier to get them into the store is it not? If this is the case, if they can't walk across the parking lot, then please explain to me how they are going to get to the back of the store?

You may think it's insensitive, but I think it's realistic. Kind of like how there are no driving schools catering specifically to blind people......

Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not saying there shouldn't be handicapped spots, or handicapped spots shouldn't be available or that anyone should use them, but it is kind of silly to say "here, here's a spot close to the door because you can't walk across the parking lot" when the store itself is actually the same size or bigger than the parking lot.....


Home Depot also sell appliances, flooring they install and many other things a handicapped person may wish to purchase that they can't carry out.

You don't often see "contactors" handbombing 30 bags of cement mix on their shoulders either.



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LancsLad said:
Home Depot also sell appliances, flooring they install and many other things a handicapped person may wish to purchase that they can't carry out.

You don't often see "contactors" handbombing 30 bags of cement mix on their shoulders either.



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But you do see them loading them onto the carts and then into the back of their trucks..........

Yes, there are thousands of products a handicapped person could use and or purchase at Home Depot. That isn't the point. The point is the vast majority of the products are NOT geared towards someone that is so physically challenged that they require a spot close to the door.

You have yet to answer my question: if they can't walk across the parking lot, how are they going to walk the store?

I will say this and then shut up (for once lol): I have spent hours upon hours in various home depot type stores. In fact, I'd hazard to say that I've probably spent 30% of my waking hours over the last 8 yrs in these stores and I have yet to see anyone in a walker, or a wheelchair.

Now I HAVE seen more than a few mentally handicapped people lol......
 

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The parking spots are a legal requirement and must be complied with when getting the site plan, building permit issued.


I agree that you don't often, ok rarely, see a wheelchair or walker using person in the Home Depot, but the allocation and placement of the spots is per the Municipal guidelines.


Thats the nature of the society we live in.


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I got into a bit of a row one time with this asshole parking in a Handicapped spot. He was clearly not handicapped, he was with his kids and I reminded him that he was parking illegally in a handicapped spot (well, more likely told him)

He didn't appreciate hearing it and made no bones about that and what he thought about me.

There was no point in escalating it, and I have no idea who you would call to ticket him. Probably bylaw enforcement, but by the time they got there (next week) he'd be gone.
 
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