Rob Ford's character
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I think you missed the news: Not only was he in fact charged, he was convicted. The man has a criminal record for drinking and driving no less, a far more heinous crime than possession of pot or cocaine. Snort coke and you might fuck up your own life, drive drunk and you might fuck up mine.he still would not be charge.
Didn't have time to read the whole thread but anything that Fuji is frantically protesting against is good in my eyes.I think you missed the news: Not only was he in fact charged, he was convicted. The man has a criminal record for drinking and driving no less, a far more heinous crime than possession of pot or cocaine. Snort coke and you might fuck up your own life, drive drunk and you might fuck up mine.
Go Ford! Get out there and bust some unions.
Plus even if he wanted to, Ford isn't sneaky enough [like most politicians] to really screw us like Miller, Smitherman, Mcginty, etc..
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So driving while high on coke is okay in your books?I think you missed the news: Not only was he in fact charged, he was convicted. The man has a criminal record for drinking and driving no less, a far more heinous crime than possession of pot or cocaine. Snort coke and you might fuck up your own life, drive drunk and you might fuck up mine.
From what I have been able to find out the ticket was issued for failing to provide a breath sample, and the criminal record no longer exists as the ticket was a municiple ticket, the same as a 12 hour suspension or an absolute discharge.
Amoung other things if he had an American crimal record he would not be allowed back into the states as he has been going back and forth in the period following the conviction it would seem to not be there
Like Mel lastman was with calling in the Army for the snow removal ?Maybe that will be Ford's excuse when he runs this city into the ground and proves to be a huge embarrassment for Toronto....
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So you are in favour of driving drunk? You're pathetic in that case. Absolutely pathetic. Anyone who supports drunk driving is the lowest form of life on the planet--pond scum. Disgusting.Didn't have time to read the whole thread but anything that Fuji is frantically protesting against is good in my eyes.
Not according to the lawyer who represented him. He was charged and convicted of impaired driving. Ford initially came out and lied and said that it was failing to provide a breath sample but then when confronted with the actual charge sheet he admitted the truth.From what I have been able to find out the ticket was issued for failing to provide a breath sample
Note that failing to provide a breath sample in and of itself makes him pond scum--it is clearly tantamount to driving drunk, something people do because they know they would fail the test. Given Ford's history of alcoholism it seems likely he was in fact driving while drunk. More to the point: It's a judicial fact that he was.
And no, driving while high on coke is not OK in my books, that is also impaired driving, deserves the same result as drunk driving--conviction, jail time preferable.
fuji, give it a rest. you are embarassing yourself here with your obsession against Ford. duang is certainly not in favour of drunk driving and your jump to that conclusion is laughable. ford was convicted of a misdemeanor failure to provide breathalyzer and at that time (1999) it was not treated as an admission of guilt of impaired driving like it is now.So you are in favour of driving drunk? You're pathetic in that case. Absolutely pathetic. Anyone who supports drunk driving is the lowest form of life on the planet--pond scum. Disgusting.
I'd like to hear it from duang, at the moment I'm taking him at his word. I am "frantically protesting against" the fact that Ford is a drunk driver and duang wrote in direct reply to that "anything that Fuji is frantically protesting against is good in my eyes."fuji, give it a rest. you are embarassing yourself here with your obsession against Ford. duang is certainly not in favour of drunk driving and your jump to that conclusion is laughable. ford was convicted of a misdemeanor failure to provide breathalyzer and at that time (1999) it was not treated as an admission of guilt of impaired driving like it is now.
How do you read that? I can only come up with one cogent reading, and that is that duang supports drunk driving.
This is classic fuji. I'm willing to bet fuji has driven legally drunk at some point and I'm also willing to bet that he thinks he is not also pathetic solely because he was not caught. Futhermore I'm also guessing that he thinks he is morally qualified to be mayor, the Giambone withdrawal notwithstanding.So you are in favour of driving drunk? You're pathetic in that case. Absolutely pathetic. Anyone who supports drunk driving is the lowest form of life on the planet--pond scum. Disgusting.
I also subscribe to theory that any politicians that fuji takes issue with is worth looking at.......although with Ford this is a stretch.
You lose the bet. What were you betting?I'm willing to bet fuji has driven legally drunk at some point
Also unlike Rob Ford I've never been arrested, not even once, let alone convicted.
I only bet with people that would actually pay when they lose, which unless you have given princess Margaret $100 in my name , excludes you.
BTW The bet wasn't whether you had been arrested , it was whether at anytime you had driven when you were more than 0.08. We know full well that you consider yourself innocent unless you are actually caught
BTW The bet wasn't whether you had been arrested , it was whether at anytime you had driven when you were more than 0.08. We know full well that you consider yourself innocent unless you are actually caught
I never took you up on that bet because you refused to accept the terms I proposed. Namely it was conditional on there being no mass vaccination, which there was. So, you lost that--but of course facts like that never stand in your way.I only bet with people that would actually pay when they lose, which unless you have given princess Margaret $100 in my name , excludes you.
I don't even drive after a single drink without giving it an hour to wear off and I have never, ever driven after having had more than a single drink. Not even once in my entire life. I don't even really drink very often, maybe once every couple of weeks, sometimes less often than that although when I do drink I'm pretty much planning on getting drunk which means I'm also planning on not driving.BTW The bet wasn't whether you had been arrested , it was whether at anytime you had driven when you were more than 0.08. We know full well that you consider yourself innocent unless you are actually caught
So no, not only have I never driven >0.08, I've likely never driven over 0.02 or maybe even 0.01, not even one drink in me (after an hour). Certainly nowhere near the legal limit, not even close.
What were you betting?
One hour will not wear off ALL alcohol.
It depends on absorption rates, the size of your body, the SIZE of the drink....
But the body only metabolizes at .015 mg of alcohol per hour. (According to goodle) So if your over .015 .....you would still be under the influence beyond the hour.
Lets get back on topic
It depends on absorption rates, the size of your body, the SIZE of the drink....
But the body only metabolizes at .015 mg of alcohol per hour. (According to goodle) So if your over .015 .....you would still be under the influence beyond the hour.
Lets get back on topic
Yeah that's true but for my body size and weight the charts say that I burn off one drink in roughly one hour. At any rate, I've never driven a car with more alcohol in me than whatever is left one hour after finishing a single drink. Nowhere near 0.08 that's for sure, probably damn near zero.One hour will not wear off ALL alcohol.
Supposedly it's acceptable for someone my weight to have two drinks and then wait two hours but I've never tried. Basically if I'm going to have two drinks I'm planning on having three or four and I've already made other arrangements. If I haven't then I don't have two drinks.
For one thing if I have 2-3 drinks and then stop I feel shitty and tired later in the evening--in that case I'd rather keep it up all evening and then go home and pass out. It's not even enjoyable.
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Your logic is delusional fuji that's all I have to say.I'd like to hear it from duang, at the moment I'm taking him at his word. I am "frantically protesting against" the fact that Ford is a drunk driver and duang wrote in direct reply to that "anything that Fuji is frantically protesting against is good in my eyes."
How do you read that? I can only come up with one cogent reading, and that is that duang supports drunk driving.
What's your opinion of drunk drivers, K Douglas? Is a small fine sufficient punishment?
I think drunk driving is heinous crime that should include some mandatory jail time along with at least a year long license suspension on a first offense. Even if it's only a month in jail--something to get the message across to those callous people who put other people's lives in jeopardy.
It's a good thing Ford isn't an immigrant: His DUI conviction would make him inadmissible to Canada if he weren't a citizen. He'd be deported.
I think drunk driving is heinous crime that should include some mandatory jail time along with at least a year long license suspension on a first offense. Even if it's only a month in jail--something to get the message across to those callous people who put other people's lives in jeopardy.
It's a good thing Ford isn't an immigrant: His DUI conviction would make him inadmissible to Canada if he weren't a citizen. He'd be deported.
My opinion of drunk drivers is irrelevant fuji. We're talking about an incident over 10 years ago (Ford) and we don't know the full details of the incident. I cannot condemn because it could have happened to me on many occasions. Guess that would make me unfit to be mayor in your books eh fuji?What's your opinion of drunk drivers, K Douglas? Is a small fine sufficient punishment?
I think drunk driving is heinous crime that should include some mandatory jail time along with at least a year long license suspension on a first offense. Even if it's only a month in jail--something to get the message across to those callous people who put other people's lives in jeopardy.
It's a good thing Ford isn't an immigrant: His DUI conviction would make him inadmissible to Canada if he weren't. He'd be deported.
Let's face it. Many of us could have been busted for impaired driving at least once or twice in our young and foolish years. But the odds of getting pulled over or stopped in a spot check are very slim if you'd only driven while marginally impaired and if you'd only done that on a very few occasions. From a probability standpoint, the drivers who are most likely to get caught are the ones who drive impaired frequently enough that the odds catch up with them and the ones who drive while they're so drunk that their impairment is visible to patrolling LE. The fact that Ford got caught suggests that he may have been in the more frequent category or the seriously drunk category or both - he was stopped for not having his headlights on at night which suggests that he probably wasn't up to par. It is still possible that he'd only done it that one time but it is statistically not very likely. He probably drove while impaired plenty of times and that brings his character and his judgement into serious question. Torontonians don't seem to care about Ford's lack of concern about the possible consequences of his impaired driving and that brings their character and judgement into question too.
I think the fuss about the impaired driving charge is a bit overblown.
What we should be concerned about is that five times he was investigated by the integrity commissioner and five times he didn't think he did anything wrong. Those are the rules that keep our politician's hands out of the till, and keep them from hiring their family to cushy jobs. That he shows no respect for those rules now makes it look like he would show even less when he is in power.
What we should be concerned about is that five times he was investigated by the integrity commissioner and five times he didn't think he did anything wrong. Those are the rules that keep our politician's hands out of the till, and keep them from hiring their family to cushy jobs. That he shows no respect for those rules now makes it look like he would show even less when he is in power.
