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From killings to rape, the heinous crimes that could get you less jail time than a Freedom Convoy organizer

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Lich et al.were funded by pro MAGA groups that also funded the January 6 uprising and they were
prepared to riot had Trump not won the 2024 election.
It would not be surprising if Trump behind the scenes or even openly would not be exerting pressure on Carney to have the Crown go easy on Lich and Barber . Trump finds support in Lich and her base towards his continued attempts to annex Canada with Lich’s home province of Alberta leading the charge.

Poilievre is already openly calling for Lich to get a significantly reduced sentence.
Matters not a whit, imo, the length of the sentence to be served. What is appalling is the rightwing pols still playing footsie with the whackos all in "defence of our freedom". And predictably the supine National Post crowd falls for it, hook, line and sinker.


The right’s new cause, crime without punishment, and its new martyrs, the Ottawa hostage-takers
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If there is one thing Canada’s Conservatives believe in, it is getting tough on crime.
Wherever there is a debate on what penalties should be imposed for criminal offences, Conservatives stand squarely and proudly for more. Whether as a matter of deterrence, or simple retribution, Conservatives almost always favour longer sentences rather than shorter.
Except, it seems, when the criminals involved are their friends. Take, for example, Tamara Lich and Chris Barber, organizers of the notorious “Freedom Convoy” that took much of downtown Ottawa hostage for three weeks in 2022, and folk heroes to the populist right.
The duo were convicted earlier this year on charges of mischief and (in Mr. Barber’s case) counselling others to disobey a court order, much to the dismay of certain sections of the right. But it was the recommendation by the Crown, at their sentencing hearing, that they be given seven and eight years in jail, respectively, that really lit the fuse.
Lawyer for Ottawa convoy organizer Chris Barber seeks discharge, Crown wants eight years in prison
“While rampant violent offenders are released hours after their most recent charges,” fumed Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, “the Crown wants seven years prison time for the charge of mischief for Lich and Barber. How is this justice?”
Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman claimed, without evidence, that the Crown prosecutor was seeking “political vengeance,” holding this up as an example of “why trust in our institutions is dwindling.” Conservative MP Andrew Lawton complained of the Crown’s “vindictive” penalties for “a three-week peaceful protest almost three and a half years ago.”
Let’s get one thing straight off the top: these are the Crown’s recommendations for sentencing, not the actual sentences, which are to be handed down in October. The Crown nearly always asks for more than it expects to get, just as the defence asks for less, each hoping to influence the judge’s sense of what is “reasonable.” Comparing the Crown’s recommendations in this case to this or that allegedly light sentence handed down in another, altogether different case is not only cherry-picking but comparing apples to oranges (cherries?).
Was this a mere “peaceful” protest? Here again some clarification is in order. The crime of “mischief” does not mean mere youthful hijinks. It ranges from destroying property (for example, blowing up a bridge) to “obstructing or interfering with” other people’s use of it; in the most serious cases, it is punishable by life in prison.
Tamara Lich’s lawyer seeks absolute discharge as sentencing hearing for Ottawa convoy organizers ends
The Ottawa protest may not have been violent, but it was anything but peaceful. The forcible occupation of a city centre is still the use of force, even if no actual violence is deployed. And the threat of it hung heavy in the air. There was a reason, after all, why police hesitated to move in, just as there was a reason why tow-truck operators were unwilling to tow the trucks away: because they were terrified of the consequences.
More than that, the protest, in its size and duration, posed an unprecedented threat to civil order and the rule of law. It wasn’t just an inconvenience to local residents, but put their health and sanity at risk: whether from the endless ear-splitting honking, the harassment and intimidation of passersby, or the open fires (near propane tanks) on city streets.

Police and court orders to disperse, or at least cease the honking, were openly and repeatedly defied. The lawlessness soon spread to other sites across the country. It is an open question how much worse things might have become had the Emergencies Act not finally been invoked.
And all in the service of, at the least, extorting the government or, in the fevered imagining of some of the organizers, replacing the government with a junta made of the Governor General, the Senate, and themselves. That is a vastly more serious matter than a mere protest. That it did not devolve into overt violence had more to do with the restraint of the authorities than the tact of the protesters.
Conservative MPs voice support for trucker convoy organizers ahead of sentencing
Are the penalties recommended by the Crown out of line with those imposed in other unlawful protests? It is noteworthy how equally convinced commentators on the right and left are that their protests are more harshly retreated than the other side’s.
Again, it’s easy to cherry-pick. You can point to Indigenous protesters who were let off with a warning for tearing down a statue. Or you can consider the case of Mohawk activist Shawn Brant, charged with mischief in 2007 for leading the blockade, for a little more than a day, of the CN rail line between Montreal and Toronto and, for 11 hours, Highway 401.
For this act of “non-violent” protest, the Crown initially recommended a sentence of 12 years. In the end, he got time served. Let’s wait and see what the judge decides in this case.
 

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Typical Canadian justice shit


Last week, Crown prosecutors announced they were seeking jail sentences of up to eight years for Tamara Lich and Chris Barber, two organizers of the Freedom Convoy protest.

Both were convicted of mischief, but the Crown is seeking a minimum sentence of seven years in jail for Lich, and eight for Barber, who was also found guilty of counselling others to disobey a court order.

The Crown has argued that the disruptiveness of the Freedom Convoy blockades warrants the harsh sentence, but in a statement this week, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said courts are throwing the book at Barber and Lich while simultaneously giving free reign to “rampant violent offenders” and “antisemitic rioters.”

It’s certainly the case that you can do an awful lot of heinous things in Canada before a prosecutor would ever think of asking for seven years. Below, a not-at-all comprehensive list of things you can do in Canada, and have the Crown seek a lighter sentence than the one they’re seeking for the organizers of the Freedom Convoy.

Sexually assaulting a baby

The accused can’t be named due to a publication ban, but he’s a B.C. man convicted of sexually assaulting his one-year-old daughter. Specifically, he rubbed his penis against the child’s exposed genitals while filming it on his cell phone.

In March, Crown prosecutors sought five to six years for the man’s conviction for sexual assault, possession of child pornography and sexual interference with a minor.

Using a car filled with guns to ram into Justin Trudeau’s house

Defence lawyers for Barber and Lich have argued that the pair were active in keeping Freedom Convoy peaceful, and urging supporters away from violence. Ironically, there is another case also from the Ottawa area in which an anti-mandate demonstrator was much more violent in his demands — and yet still faced a lighter proposed sentence.

Months before Freedom Convoy ever got underway, an army reservist angry about COVID lockdowns filled up a car with guns, smashed through the gates of the official prime ministerial residence and was stopped as he attempted to approach the residence to “arrest” then prime minister Justin Trudeau. The reservist’s crimes were much more serious than mischief; he was convicted of seven weapons charges and one charge of destruction of property. But the Crown in his case sought a sentence of six years.

Killing multiple innocent people via drunk driving

When it comes to crimes that kill people, vehicular manslaughter is routinely among the most lightly punished. There exist any number of examples of a Canadian driver killing someone through inattention or recklessness, and getting off with nothing more than a fine and a brief driving ban.



Even in cases where a drunk driver wipes out a whole generation of a family, a seven-year sentence would be considered on the tougher side.

Edmonton man Taylor Yaremchuk killed a senior couple while driving drunk in 2022. The Crown in his case sought, and received, a five-year jail sentence, with the sentencing judge declaring it sent a “strong message.”

Five years was also the sentence sought by the Crown in the case of a Newfoundland man who took to the wheel after drinking all day at a 2019 music festival, causing a crash that killed couple John and Sandra Lush, and seriously injured their daughter and her boyfriend, who were in the back seat.

Stabbing a man to death because he told you to stop abusing your girlfriend

Under Canadian law, a convicted murderer has to spend at least 10 years in jail; that’s the mandatory minimum sentence for second-degree murder. Nevertheless, it’s common to see cases in which a killer receives only a few years in jail simply because the homicide they committed is prosecuted as manslaughter.


In 2018, 26-year-old Abeal Negussie Abera received fatal stab wounds in Downtown Vancouver after he attempted to intervene between a man yelling at his common-law spouse. “Yo, bro, she’s just a girl. You don’t have to treat her like that, calm down,” Abera reportedly said just before Benny Rae Armstrong plunged a blade into his chest.

At a hearing last month, Crown prosecutors sought a five-year jail term for Armstrong.

Being a police officer who stalks and sexually harasses crime victims

Edmonton Police constable Hunter Robinz was convicted earlier this year not just for sex crimes, but for sex crimes against vulnerable women he would track down using his status as a police officer — sometimes forcing himself on the women while in uniform.


In one instance, Robinz returned a distressed and intoxicated woman to her apartment, only to spend two hours attempting to kiss her while ignoring calls from his police radio.

The Crown sought two to three years for Robinz, but in May a sentencing judge opted instead for six months.

Amassing enough child pornography to fill a video store

Joshua Stairs’s child pornography collection was tallied up by police as containing 7,170 videos and 1,148 images. At trial, Judge Johanne Lafrance-Cardinal said the images were so graphic, violent and disturbing that she occasionally urged lawyers not to detail their contents so as to spare court staff members. The ages of the victims depicted in the images ranged from four to 12.

The Crown sought three to three-and-a-half years for Stairs, and he was sentenced to two.

Torturing a toddler to death

It’s not unusual that the killing of a baby or toddler will yield a sentence of only a few years, particularly if the killer is the child’s parents. But there were some aggravating factors in the death of Gabriel Sinclair-Pasqua, an 18-month-old who died in 2021.

Sinclair-Pasqua’s last days were spent in extreme pain after a scalding caused him to suffer burns across a third of his body. His parents not only refused to seek medical care, but in text exchanges they referred to the emaciated and screaming child as “a paycheque.”

The Crown would end up seeking the exact same sentence for the parents as that being sought for Barber: eight years in jail.

Shooting at police

In the summer of 2023 Siavash Ahmadi was pulled over by West Vancouver Police for suspected impaired driving. When instructed to retrieve his licence, Ahmadi instead reached into a bag of loaded guns, retrieved a pistol and fired at two officers from a distance of just two metres.

Admadi didn’t hit anyone, and neither did the officers when they returned fire. At trial last November, the Crown sought a sentence of seven years. Ahmadi ultimately received just four years, in addition to a $1,000 fine for impaired driving.

Intentionally ramming a car loaded with children and pregnant women

Michael Augustine, 60, pled guilty to a 2022 incident in which he used his truck to intentionally ram a minivan carrying his step-daughter, whom he had just threatened to kill.

The minivan, which was carrying a total of four children and two pregnant women, rolled multiple times before coming to a stop in the woods, 83 metres from the road. Miraculously, nobody was killed, despite one of the children being ejected from the crash.

Despite Augustine’s long history of violent criminal convictions, the Crown sought eight years, and Augustine was ultimately sentenced to five.

Beating a fellow homeless shelter resident to death

While staying at an Edmonton homeless shelter, Stanley Jago attacked a confused fellow resident who had been returning from the bathroom, beating the man so badly that he suffered a fatal seizure.

In the court proceedings that followed, Jago gained a reputation for unstable behaviour, such as threatening court participants or attempting to attack sheriffs.

Jago was convicted of manslaughter, and sentenced to five years — just slightly less than the five-and-a-half years the Crown had been seeking.

Raping a minor and bragging about it online

In arguing that 56-year-old Prakash Lekhraj didn’t feel any remorse for raping a teenaged girl, the Crown would only have needed to point to Lehkraj’s testimony that “he never needs to seek the consent of a female to have sexual relations with her.”

Lehkraj was convicted of both sexual assault and the production of child pornography for an August 2020 assault in which he photographed himself raping a minor before uploading the images to an online group chat. The victim “took it like a champ,” wrote Lekhraj.

The Crown sought a sentence of four to five years, but a judge went with three years and three months.


Months before Freedom Convoy ever got underway, an army reservist angry about COVID lockdowns filled up a car with guns, smashed through the gates of the official prime ministerial residence and was stopped as he attempted to approach the residence to “arrest” then prime minister Justin Trudeau. The reservist’s crimes were much more serious than mischief; he was convicted of seven weapons charges and one charge of destruction of property. But the Crown in his case sought a sentence of six years.

Killing multiple innocent people via drunk driving

When it comes to crimes that kill people, vehicular manslaughter is routinely among the most lightly punished. There exist any number of examples of a Canadian driver killing someone through inattention or recklessness, and getting off with nothing more than a fine and a brief driving ban.


Even in cases where a drunk driver wipes out a whole generation of a family, a seven-year sentence would be considered on the tougher side.

Edmonton man Taylor Yaremchuk killed a senior couple while driving drunk in 2022. The Crown in his case sought, and received, a five-year jail sentence, with the sentencing judge declaring it sent a “strong message.”

Five years was also the sentence sought by the Crown in the case of a Newfoundland man who took to the wheel after drinking all day at a 2019 music festival, causing a crash that killed couple John and Sandra Lush, and seriously injured their daughter and her boyfriend, who were in the back seat.

Stabbing a man to death because he told you to stop abusing your girlfriend

Under Canadian law, a convicted murderer has to spend at least 10 years in jail; that’s the mandatory minimum sentence for second-degree murder. Nevertheless, it’s common to see cases in which a killer receives only a few years in jail simply because the homicide they committed is prosecuted as manslaughter.


In 2018, 26-year-old Abeal Negussie Abera received fatal stab wounds in Downtown Vancouver after he attempted to intervene between a man yelling at his common-law spouse. “Yo, bro, she’s just a girl. You don’t have to treat her like that, calm down,” Abera reportedly said just before Benny Rae Armstrong plunged a blade into his chest.

At a hearing last month, Crown prosecutors sought a five-year jail term for Armstrong.

Being a police officer who stalks and sexually harasses crime victims

Edmonton Police constable Hunter Robinz was convicted earlier this year not just for sex crimes, but for sex crimes against vulnerable women he would track down using his status as a police officer — sometimes forcing himself on the women while in uniform.


In one instance, Robinz returned a distressed and intoxicated woman to her apartment, only to spend two hours attempting to kiss her while ignoring calls from his police radio.

The Crown sought two to three years for Robinz, but in May a sentencing judge opted instead for six months.

Amassing enough child pornography to fill a video store

Joshua Stairs’s child pornography collection was tallied up by police as containing 7,170 videos and 1,148 images. At trial, Judge Johanne Lafrance-Cardinal said the images were so graphic, violent and disturbing that she occasionally urged lawyers not to detail their contents so as to spare court staff members. The ages of the victims depicted in the images ranged from four to 12.


The Crown sought three to three-and-a-half years for Stairs, and he was sentenced to two.

Torturing a toddler to death

It’s not unusual that the killing of a baby or toddler will yield a sentence of only a few years, particularly if the killer is the child’s parents. But there were some aggravating factors in the death of Gabriel Sinclair-Pasqua, an 18-month-old who died in 2021.

Sinclair-Pasqua’s last days were spent in extreme pain after a scalding caused him to suffer burns across a third of his body. His parents not only refused to seek medical care, but in text exchanges they referred to the emaciated and screaming child as “a paycheque.”



The Crown would end up seeking the exact same sentence for the parents as that being sought for Barber: eight years in jail.

Shooting at police

In the summer of 2023 Siavash Ahmadi was pulled over by West Vancouver Police for suspected impaired driving. When instructed to retrieve his licence, Ahmadi instead reached into a bag of loaded guns, retrieved a pistol and fired at two officers from a distance of just two metres.

Admadi didn’t hit anyone, and neither did the officers when they returned fire. At trial last November, the Crown sought a sentence of seven years. Ahmadi ultimately received just four years, in addition to a $1,000 fine for impaired driving.

Intentionally ramming a car loaded with children and pregnant women

Michael Augustine, 60, pled guilty to a 2022 incident in which he used his truck to intentionally ram a minivan carrying his step-daughter, whom he had just threatened to kill.


The minivan, which was carrying a total of four children and two pregnant women, rolled multiple times before coming to a stop in the woods, 83 metres from the road. Miraculously, nobody was killed, despite one of the children being ejected from the crash.

Despite Augustine’s long history of violent criminal convictions, the Crown sought eight years, and Augustine was ultimately sentenced to five.

Beating a fellow homeless shelter resident to death

While staying at an Edmonton homeless shelter, Stanley Jago attacked a confused fellow resident who had been returning from the bathroom, beating the man so badly that he suffered a fatal seizure.



In the court proceedings that followed, Jago gained a reputation for unstable behaviour, such as threatening court participants or attempting to attack sheriffs.

Jago was convicted of manslaughter, and sentenced to five years — just slightly less than the five-and-a-half years the Crown had been seeking.

Raping a minor and bragging about it online

In arguing that 56-year-old Prakash Lekhraj didn’t feel any remorse for raping a teenaged girl, the Crown would only have needed to point to Lehkraj’s testimony that “he never needs to seek the consent of a female to have sexual relations with her.”

Lehkraj was convicted of both sexual assault and the production of child pornography for an August 2020 assault in which he photographed himself raping a minor before uploading the images to an online group chat. The victim “took it like a champ,” wrote Lekhraj.

The Crown sought a sentence of four to five years, but a judge went with three years and three months.

I refuse to wear a mask and get vaccinated, no way, and this distancing thing is ridiculous, I'll meet with the official Opposition, I'll meet with the third party, I'll meet with the King & the Governor General, I'm ready to form the next federal government.
 
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Maybe Lich and Barber could request to do some community work cleaning toilets at immigrant housing centres, in return for having a few weeks shaved from their sentences??

Just a constructive suggestion.....
 

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Matters not a whit, imo, the length of the sentence to be served. What is appalling is the rightwing pols still playing footsie with the whackos all in "defence of our freedom". And predictably the supine National Post crowd falls for it, hook, line and sinker.


The right’s new cause, crime without punishment, and its new martyrs, the Ottawa hostage-takers
Andrew Coyne
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If there is one thing Canada’s Conservatives believe in, it is getting tough on crime.
Wherever there is a debate on what penalties should be imposed for criminal offences, Conservatives stand squarely and proudly for more. Whether as a matter of deterrence, or simple retribution, Conservatives almost always favour longer sentences rather than shorter.
Except, it seems, when the criminals involved are their friends. Take, for example, Tamara Lich and Chris Barber, organizers of the notorious “Freedom Convoy” that took much of downtown Ottawa hostage for three weeks in 2022, and folk heroes to the populist right.
The duo were convicted earlier this year on charges of mischief and (in Mr. Barber’s case) counselling others to disobey a court order, much to the dismay of certain sections of the right. But it was the recommendation by the Crown, at their sentencing hearing, that they be given seven and eight years in jail, respectively, that really lit the fuse.
Lawyer for Ottawa convoy organizer Chris Barber seeks discharge, Crown wants eight years in prison
“While rampant violent offenders are released hours after their most recent charges,” fumed Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, “the Crown wants seven years prison time for the charge of mischief for Lich and Barber. How is this justice?”
Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman claimed, without evidence, that the Crown prosecutor was seeking “political vengeance,” holding this up as an example of “why trust in our institutions is dwindling.” Conservative MP Andrew Lawton complained of the Crown’s “vindictive” penalties for “a three-week peaceful protest almost three and a half years ago.”
Let’s get one thing straight off the top: these are the Crown’s recommendations for sentencing, not the actual sentences, which are to be handed down in October. The Crown nearly always asks for more than it expects to get, just as the defence asks for less, each hoping to influence the judge’s sense of what is “reasonable.” Comparing the Crown’s recommendations in this case to this or that allegedly light sentence handed down in another, altogether different case is not only cherry-picking but comparing apples to oranges (cherries?).
Was this a mere “peaceful” protest? Here again some clarification is in order. The crime of “mischief” does not mean mere youthful hijinks. It ranges from destroying property (for example, blowing up a bridge) to “obstructing or interfering with” other people’s use of it; in the most serious cases, it is punishable by life in prison.
Tamara Lich’s lawyer seeks absolute discharge as sentencing hearing for Ottawa convoy organizers ends
The Ottawa protest may not have been violent, but it was anything but peaceful. The forcible occupation of a city centre is still the use of force, even if no actual violence is deployed. And the threat of it hung heavy in the air. There was a reason, after all, why police hesitated to move in, just as there was a reason why tow-truck operators were unwilling to tow the trucks away: because they were terrified of the consequences.
More than that, the protest, in its size and duration, posed an unprecedented threat to civil order and the rule of law. It wasn’t just an inconvenience to local residents, but put their health and sanity at risk: whether from the endless ear-splitting honking, the harassment and intimidation of passersby, or the open fires (near propane tanks) on city streets.

Police and court orders to disperse, or at least cease the honking, were openly and repeatedly defied. The lawlessness soon spread to other sites across the country. It is an open question how much worse things might have become had the Emergencies Act not finally been invoked.
And all in the service of, at the least, extorting the government or, in the fevered imagining of some of the organizers, replacing the government with a junta made of the Governor General, the Senate, and themselves. That is a vastly more serious matter than a mere protest. That it did not devolve into overt violence had more to do with the restraint of the authorities than the tact of the protesters.
Conservative MPs voice support for trucker convoy organizers ahead of sentencing
Are the penalties recommended by the Crown out of line with those imposed in other unlawful protests? It is noteworthy how equally convinced commentators on the right and left are that their protests are more harshly retreated than the other side’s.
Again, it’s easy to cherry-pick. You can point to Indigenous protesters who were let off with a warning for tearing down a statue. Or you can consider the case of Mohawk activist Shawn Brant, charged with mischief in 2007 for leading the blockade, for a little more than a day, of the CN rail line between Montreal and Toronto and, for 11 hours, Highway 401.
For this act of “non-violent” protest, the Crown initially recommended a sentence of 12 years. In the end, he got time served. Let’s wait and see what the judge decides in this case.
Yeah the bouncy castles were just terrifying, lol....
 
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Peaceful protesting...This was terrifying to the leftists...
I know right, they also shoveled the snow off the sidewalks, picked up garbage and left it in a convenient place for city employees to pick it up and dispose of it. Pretty sure their presence also led to a marked decline in petty crime in downtown Ottawa too. Man made horrors beyond anything the tiny shitlib mind can conjure.
 

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I know right, they also shoveled the snow off the sidewalks, picked up garbage and left it in a convenient place for city employees to pick it up and dispose of it. Pretty sure their presence also led to a marked decline in petty crime in downtown Ottawa too. Man made horrors beyond anything the tiny shitlib mind can conjure.
Yes, Ottawa really loved the anti vaxxer protesters.
They would often request that they honk their horns even louder and block even more streets.
 

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Yes, Ottawa really loved the anti vaxxer protesters.
They would often request that they honk their horns even louder and block even more streets.
In the immortal words of AOC, the purpose of a protest is to make people feel uncomfortable. Seethe harder 1000011216.jpg
 
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Looks like they are paying the price now for being POS and spreading antivax lies, nonsense and bullshit.


ahhhhhh, I'm going to put this in a frame and keep it on my desk.


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Canada’s Measles Outbreak Exceeds Cases in the U.S.
Some doctors in Alberta have criticized officials for not declaring a health emergency in the western province where measles infections are surging.


A view of several tall buildings and a tower in front of a park.

The skyline of Calgary in Alberta, where measles cases are rising.Credit...Dave Chidley/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
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Reporting from Toronto
July 30, 2025Updated 3:36 p.m. ET
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Measles cases in Canada have far surpassed those in the United States as health officials in Alberta, a western province that has become a hot spot for the outbreak, have urged the provincial leader to declare a public health emergency to stave off infections.
Canada’s public healthy agency has recorded about 4,200 measles cases this year, more than three times as many as the 1,300 cases recorded in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The C.D.C. has also ranked Canada among the top 10 countries with the highest number of measles cases. It is the only Western nation on the list.
Alberta, which has low measles vaccine rates, has recorded about 1,600 cases. The largely conservative province has a deep and vocal level of skepticism about the public health system and vaccines, with many people mirroring some of the arguments made in the United States by the health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.



Measles is an airborne virus and one of the world’s most infectious diseases, causing flulike symptoms and a rash. Severe cases can lead to hearing loss, pneumonia or swelling in the brain. Three people have died in the United States, while in Canada there has been one death, a premature baby who had contracted the virus in the womb.
The spread of measles has slowed in Ontario, the province with the largest number of cases. But health professionals say the opposite is true in Alberta, and many are criticizing the provincial government’s public health response.
“Our performance is so bad that we have more cases in a population of five million than the United States has in a population of 340 million,” said Dr. James Talbot, a former chief medical officer of health in Alberta.
Vaccination rates among children have fallen globally since the Covid-19 pandemic, according to a study published this month in The Lancet, a medical journal.



Canada has been part of the trend. In 2021, 79 percent of children in Canada were vaccinated against measles by their seventh birthday, down from about 86 percent in 2013, according to federal data.
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Red writing on a gray electronic sign in front of sliding doors.

The virus spread has slowed in Ontario, the province with the largest number of cases.Credit...Geoff Robins/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
But vaccine skepticism in Alberta has become more entrenched in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic, when Canada enforced mandatory vaccination requirements for travel. Alberta became an epicenter of pushback against the mandates and many of the leaders of protests that paralyzed Ottawa, the country’s capital, for weeks came from the province.
Unlike Ontario and other provinces, Alberta does not have mandatory immunization requirements for school enrollment. The provincial health minister, Adriana LaGrange, has long made clear that vaccinating children is a decision to be made by their parents.
Canada’s measles outbreak began in October, in the Altantic province of New Brunswick and originated with an international visitor at a Mennonite gathering, according to health officials. That outbreak led to more cases in Ontario, with measles disproportionately affecting Amish, Mennonite and other Anabaptist communities, according to Dr. Kieran Moore, the province’s top doctor.
Health officials in Alberta have directly linked some outbreaks to Mennonite communities.
The Mennonite faith does not have any doctrine prohibiting vaccinations. But many adherents avoid interacting with the medical system and follow a long tradition of natural remedies.



Provincial figures show that about 71 percent of children in Alberta are fully vaccinated by the age of 7. Some of the hardest hit parts of Alberta have immunization rates of under 50 percent, well below the 95 percent threshold for herd immunity, said Dr. Craig Jenne, a professor at the University of Calgary who studies infectious diseases.
Several public health experts have criticized the province for its response and are calling on it to declare a public health emergency.
“Such a declaration is not warranted based on the current data,” Maddison McKee, a spokeswoman from Alberta’s Ministry of Primary and Preventative Health Services, said in an email.
The province has expanded vaccination clinics, run a “Don’t Get Measles, Get Immunized” radio campaign and targeted outreach efforts to specific communities, Ms. McKee said, noting that hospitalization rates have not risen in any significant way.
Between March and July, the province administered 55 percent more measles vaccines, or 87,000, than the year before, she added.



But some experts say the official cases logged are likely an undercount of infections as they only track people who went to a medical facility for treatment or a diagnosis.
“There’s no indication it is slowing or turning around,” Dr. Jenne said. “Clearly, whatever is being done now is not sufficient to bring this back under control.”
While health care in Canada is largely the purview of provinces, the federal government has focused on fighting misinformation around measures like vaccinations, said Dr. Howard Njoo, Canada’s interim chief public health officer.
“We’ve learned a lot in terms of how to address, I would say, a trust issue,” Dr. Njoo said.
Alberta Health Services, the health agency, has placed restrictions on visitors in health care settings used by vulnerable patients, including some cancer wards.
To assist with tracing transmissions, local health officials have issued notices in places like Walmarts, health centers and grocery stores, where people had gone who were later confirmed to have been infected with measles.



But those public alerts have noticeably slowed as health officials have become overwhelmed, said Dr. Lynora Saxinger, an infectious diseases specialist, at a news conference this month organized by the Alberta Medical Association, a nonprofit advocacy group.
“The volume is simply too high for them to be able to catch up,” said Dr. Saxinger, adding that an overload of cases will likely also start putting pressure on hospitals. “We’re probably seeing, to some extent, the tip of the iceberg.”
Vjosa Isai is a reporter and researcher for The Times based in Toronto, where she covers news from across Canada.
 

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It never amazes me the ability of a shitlib to gaslight themselves into believing complete and utter bullshit. Calling for Trudeau to step down as PM and an election to be held equals a coup de tas. Who exactly was supposed to be PM after this imaginary coup? What political party did they represent? How was this coup to be carried out when neither the armed forces nor the police supported them? Your kvetching about this all these years later is truely pathetic, but I'd expect nothing less from the shitlib hive mind
 

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Canada’s Measles Outbreak Exceeds Cases in the U.S.
Some doctors in Alberta have criticized officials for not declaring a health emergency in the western province where measles infections are surging.


A view of several tall buildings and a tower in front of a park.

The skyline of Calgary in Alberta, where measles cases are rising.Credit...Dave Chidley/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
By Vjosa Isai
Reporting from Toronto
July 30, 2025Updated 3:36 p.m. ET
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Measles cases in Canada have far surpassed those in the United States as health officials in Alberta, a western province that has become a hot spot for the outbreak, have urged the provincial leader to declare a public health emergency to stave off infections.
Canada’s public healthy agency has recorded about 4,200 measles cases this year, more than three times as many as the 1,300 cases recorded in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The C.D.C. has also ranked Canada among the top 10 countries with the highest number of measles cases. It is the only Western nation on the list.
Alberta, which has low measles vaccine rates, has recorded about 1,600 cases. The largely conservative province has a deep and vocal level of skepticism about the public health system and vaccines, with many people mirroring some of the arguments made in the United States by the health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.



Measles is an airborne virus and one of the world’s most infectious diseases, causing flulike symptoms and a rash. Severe cases can lead to hearing loss, pneumonia or swelling in the brain. Three people have died in the United States, while in Canada there has been one death, a premature baby who had contracted the virus in the womb.
The spread of measles has slowed in Ontario, the province with the largest number of cases. But health professionals say the opposite is true in Alberta, and many are criticizing the provincial government’s public health response.
“Our performance is so bad that we have more cases in a population of five million than the United States has in a population of 340 million,” said Dr. James Talbot, a former chief medical officer of health in Alberta.
Vaccination rates among children have fallen globally since the Covid-19 pandemic, according to a study published this month in The Lancet, a medical journal.



Canada has been part of the trend. In 2021, 79 percent of children in Canada were vaccinated against measles by their seventh birthday, down from about 86 percent in 2013, according to federal data.
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The virus spread has slowed in Ontario, the province with the largest number of cases.Credit...Geoff Robins/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
But vaccine skepticism in Alberta has become more entrenched in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic, when Canada enforced mandatory vaccination requirements for travel. Alberta became an epicenter of pushback against the mandates and many of the leaders of protests that paralyzed Ottawa, the country’s capital, for weeks came from the province.
Unlike Ontario and other provinces, Alberta does not have mandatory immunization requirements for school enrollment. The provincial health minister, Adriana LaGrange, has long made clear that vaccinating children is a decision to be made by their parents.
Canada’s measles outbreak began in October, in the Altantic province of New Brunswick and originated with an international visitor at a Mennonite gathering, according to health officials. That outbreak led to more cases in Ontario, with measles disproportionately affecting Amish, Mennonite and other Anabaptist communities, according to Dr. Kieran Moore, the province’s top doctor.
Health officials in Alberta have directly linked some outbreaks to Mennonite communities.
The Mennonite faith does not have any doctrine prohibiting vaccinations. But many adherents avoid interacting with the medical system and follow a long tradition of natural remedies.



Provincial figures show that about 71 percent of children in Alberta are fully vaccinated by the age of 7. Some of the hardest hit parts of Alberta have immunization rates of under 50 percent, well below the 95 percent threshold for herd immunity, said Dr. Craig Jenne, a professor at the University of Calgary who studies infectious diseases.
Several public health experts have criticized the province for its response and are calling on it to declare a public health emergency.
“Such a declaration is not warranted based on the current data,” Maddison McKee, a spokeswoman from Alberta’s Ministry of Primary and Preventative Health Services, said in an email.
The province has expanded vaccination clinics, run a “Don’t Get Measles, Get Immunized” radio campaign and targeted outreach efforts to specific communities, Ms. McKee said, noting that hospitalization rates have not risen in any significant way.
Between March and July, the province administered 55 percent more measles vaccines, or 87,000, than the year before, she added.



But some experts say the official cases logged are likely an undercount of infections as they only track people who went to a medical facility for treatment or a diagnosis.
“There’s no indication it is slowing or turning around,” Dr. Jenne said. “Clearly, whatever is being done now is not sufficient to bring this back under control.”
While health care in Canada is largely the purview of provinces, the federal government has focused on fighting misinformation around measures like vaccinations, said Dr. Howard Njoo, Canada’s interim chief public health officer.
“We’ve learned a lot in terms of how to address, I would say, a trust issue,” Dr. Njoo said.
Alberta Health Services, the health agency, has placed restrictions on visitors in health care settings used by vulnerable patients, including some cancer wards.
To assist with tracing transmissions, local health officials have issued notices in places like Walmarts, health centers and grocery stores, where people had gone who were later confirmed to have been infected with measles.



But those public alerts have noticeably slowed as health officials have become overwhelmed, said Dr. Lynora Saxinger, an infectious diseases specialist, at a news conference this month organized by the Alberta Medical Association, a nonprofit advocacy group.
“The volume is simply too high for them to be able to catch up,” said Dr. Saxinger, adding that an overload of cases will likely also start putting pressure on hospitals. “We’re probably seeing, to some extent, the tip of the iceberg.”
Vjosa Isai is a reporter and researcher for The Times based in Toronto, where she covers news from across Canada.
' "As of now, there are two [Alberta] patients in hospital, and at no point have more than three or four patients been hospitalized at once," the Alberta government spokesperson said. ''

It's panic time folks...
 

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' "As of now, there are two [Alberta] patients in hospital, and at no point have more than three or four patients been hospitalized at once," the Alberta government spokesperson said. ''

It's panic time folks...
4206 cases so far this year.
 

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It never amazes me the ability of a shitlib to gaslight themselves into believing complete and utter bullshit. Calling for Trudeau to step down as PM and an election to be held equals a coup de tas. Who exactly was supposed to be PM after this imaginary coup? What political party did they represent? How was this coup to be carried out when neither the armed forces nor the police supported them? Your kvetching about this all these years later is truely pathetic, but I'd expect nothing less from the shitlib hive mind
The term is "coup d'etat".

Gotta learn how to spell.
 

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Yeah the bouncy castles were just terrifying, lol....
That's just fine.

The CPC is already becoming a half-assed regional protest party for rural Alberta that is unable to win any seats west of Brandon, MB. Another year or so of this type of attitude from folks like you and we'll have Liberal perma-government forever.
 
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It's because of shitbags like RFK who promote nonsense and bullshit and snares the sheep to follow his caca. This POS will cause the next pandemic.

RFK Jr. explains why he fired 17 members from vaccine panel
 
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