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Rob Ford's character

antaeus

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mildly interesting debate / interview with all candidates on TVO last night.

All candidates discussed their "platform", none in great depth, only Ms. Thompson offered up a complete costing, Smithermen said he's working on it for later release. Mr. Ford came up with some strange math about immediate savings, effectively critiqued by all other's as both unclear and unrealistic.

As we're discussing Mr. Ford, overall he, like the other candidates made some worthwhile points, but he also by far resorted to several outlandish, unsubstantiated claims that twice were quietly refuted by Mr. Pantalone with the real numbers, i.e. RF claiming whatever program cost 3 Bn, JP citing actual program cost 129 Mn.

Rob Ford had one critical flaw: he kept bringing up his successful printing business. Toronto is just too big and multivariate to have a mayor involved in a private company. Ms. Thompson skewered him citing her better attendance record at council meetings when she doesn't even work there.

Rob Ford reminded me of terbite ad naseum arguments some display, this thread included.

Mr. Smithermen, a very confident and that night humble speaker was also just muddled, unclear and didn't offer up anything inciteful, except perhaps politely weathering continuous ehealth related criticisms and then also clearly explaining some governance issues concerning it. How he took the abuse was impressive considering any Toronto mayor is going to get as bad probably daily.

Overall the clearest and politest responders were Ms. Thompson and Mr. Rossi, with slight edge to ST.So there you go. Vote today I'd toss a coin between Rocco Rossi or Sarah Thompson, the only candidates who offered substantive information.


On an aside, there's endless Mayor Miller based critique citing the St. Clair street car right of way project. I think you are all wrong, it's a great project improving great and diverse and busy neighbourhoods. The problem was the outrageous ease of legal injunctions of grossly spurious claim requiring unplanned time and money. The last brief work stoppage injunction - fire trucks can't fit, denied by planner, denied by local fire chiefs - is example of equally spurious earlier work stoppage injunctions. There's lots more there, but this is Rob Ford discussion, and I'm only offering counterpoint opinion to otherwise opinions stated as fact.
 

oldjones

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I guess you , Fuji. chiller_boy and the Ford hater "really don't get it"!!! Name me an honest politicans, all politicans are liars. Rob Ford lies so what ... Smitherman also lies, Millers and Miller's cronies lies and finally everyone lies. The facts are with Rob Ford is best fiscall responsible person out there and he will look after the Toronto taxpayer money better then any one else out there. I do not care if Rob Ford lies and as long as he is fiscal responsible he will have my votes. And when he become Mayor on Oct 25, 2010. This will prove you once and for all that what the Toronto voters wants.

GO FORD GO
Who cares who wins if they're all liars? And how do you know he's "fiscally responsible" if he lies? he's certainly not told anyone what he does spend to send out fliers and mailings 'because he does it with his own money, and it's his own business'. But they have 'caught' Mr Fiscal Resposibility using city letterhead for his own private purposes.

As I and others have said before, vote as you choose for whatever reasons you want; it's your right to make foolish and wrong choices. But you have utterly failed to justify it w/ any logic at all, although it represents a kind of enlightenment to read you calling Rob a liar.

Even if you still imagine that if he wins that would somehow make the blindness of those who voted for him into farsighted wisdom, he'd still be a bad character.
 
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