I would say that in Western countries, violence by right wing Christians is the bigger threat while in Islamic countries, Islamic terrorism is more of an issue. Is anyone surprised that ethnic violence is most common from the people living in those countries?
Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??
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You mean groups like IJVCanada, HRW and Amnesty?
Those are the groups I support.
Now, aside talking about who you think 'desires' to kill more civilians, the only real question is who kills more civilians, Israel or Hamas.
Israel wins that war, hands down.
You, like Phil, seem to think that every civilian killed by Israel was just and can easily supply a rationalization that you will also repeatedly say doesn't apply to Palestinians.
So while Israel makes 'mistakes' with snipers shooting children (though mostly you just say they were violent and deserved it), you would never allow Palestinians to use the same excuses.
That's where your racism comes out.
That and horrid number of women, children, journalists, medics and civilians that Israel kills on Fridays.
Bulgarian Prosecutors: ‘Islamic State’ recruited 16-year-old who planned Plovdiv bomb attack
A 16-year-old boy who had been preparing a bomb attack in central Plovdiv had been recruited by the “Islamic State”, Bulgaria’s Deputy Prosecutor-General Ivan Geshev told a news conference on June 8.
The teenager was arrested on June 6 in a special operation by prosecutors, the State Agency for National Security and the Interior Ministry, following a tip-off to authorities by “a source close to the child”.
In a search of two rooms used by the boy, explosive devices, ready and under preparation, were found. Also found were reading material and an “Islamic State” flag.
One of the devices found was a “tube bomb”. There were also 14.5 kilograms of a substance used in terrorist attacks in Belgium and in France, and in the July 2012 terrorist bombing attack against Israeli tourists at Bulgaria’s Bourgas Airport. In the Bourgas Airport attack, two kg of the substance were used.
Geshev said that the case involving the child was an individual one and it was not a matter of a network.
He described the boy as “super intelligent” who had assembled the materials for the explosive devices using substances publicly available. The youth had claimed to have an interest in chemistry.
The youth had been the subject of several months, perhaps a year, of a recruitment process by the “Islamic State”, he said.
After they met via a social network, the recruiter had used encrypted communication service Telegram to communicate with the boy. Geshev said that he would not disclose how the youth had found the recruiter.
The boy’s father had co-operated in the arrest, taking him out of school so that he could be taken into custody, Geshev said, underlining that the youth had not been arrested on school premises.
Geshev urged the media not to try to contact the boy, his family, their neighbours or the school, saying that doing so could have “unpleasant consequences”.
A court had ordered the boy into child pedagogical supervision, which Geshev described as a mistake.
He said that the case was not just a pre-trial investigation, but a personal tragedy. The child should be helped by a specialists in an isolated environment, with the aim of reintegration into normal society.
Geshev warned of the danger of brainwashing, urging all parents to maintain proper communication with their children.
https://sofiaglobe.com/2019/06/08/b...-16-year-old-who-planned-plovdiv-bomb-attack/
A 16-year-old boy who had been preparing a bomb attack in central Plovdiv had been recruited by the “Islamic State”, Bulgaria’s Deputy Prosecutor-General Ivan Geshev told a news conference on June 8.
The teenager was arrested on June 6 in a special operation by prosecutors, the State Agency for National Security and the Interior Ministry, following a tip-off to authorities by “a source close to the child”.
In a search of two rooms used by the boy, explosive devices, ready and under preparation, were found. Also found were reading material and an “Islamic State” flag.
One of the devices found was a “tube bomb”. There were also 14.5 kilograms of a substance used in terrorist attacks in Belgium and in France, and in the July 2012 terrorist bombing attack against Israeli tourists at Bulgaria’s Bourgas Airport. In the Bourgas Airport attack, two kg of the substance were used.
Geshev said that the case involving the child was an individual one and it was not a matter of a network.
He described the boy as “super intelligent” who had assembled the materials for the explosive devices using substances publicly available. The youth had claimed to have an interest in chemistry.
The youth had been the subject of several months, perhaps a year, of a recruitment process by the “Islamic State”, he said.
After they met via a social network, the recruiter had used encrypted communication service Telegram to communicate with the boy. Geshev said that he would not disclose how the youth had found the recruiter.
The boy’s father had co-operated in the arrest, taking him out of school so that he could be taken into custody, Geshev said, underlining that the youth had not been arrested on school premises.
Geshev urged the media not to try to contact the boy, his family, their neighbours or the school, saying that doing so could have “unpleasant consequences”.
A court had ordered the boy into child pedagogical supervision, which Geshev described as a mistake.
He said that the case was not just a pre-trial investigation, but a personal tragedy. The child should be helped by a specialists in an isolated environment, with the aim of reintegration into normal society.
Geshev warned of the danger of brainwashing, urging all parents to maintain proper communication with their children.
https://sofiaglobe.com/2019/06/08/b...-16-year-old-who-planned-plovdiv-bomb-attack/
Forced Conversions, Marriages Spike in Islamabad Authority
Sixteen-year-old Suneeta and her 12-year-old sister were walking home in March when they were kidnapped.
The men who took them forced the girls to convert to Islam.
“We were walking back to our house after working on the farm when men in a car came out of nowhere and dragged us in with them,” said Suneeta, who is Hindu and lives in Badin, a small city in the south of Pakistan. “The next thing we knew, we were in a shrine being forced to say the kalma (acceptance of Islam) by a cleric.”
The men who kidnapped the girls told their mother to pay the equivalent of $365 — an enormous amount for the poor farming family — or the men would marry off the girls.
Their mother begged and borrowed from within the Hindu community and paid the ransom. She got her girls back.
The family considers itself lucky.
Every year, thousands of Hindu and Christian girls and young women are kidnapped in Pakistan and forcibly married, disappearing from their families. And while these forced conversions have been going on for decades, a recent surge in reported cases has brought the issue back into the limelight.
Around 1,000 cases of Hindu and Christian girls being forced to convert were estimated in the province of southern Sindh alone in 2018, according to the annual report of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
There are no concrete numbers for the rest of the conservative country, which is around 96 percent Muslim.
“This appears to be a systematic, organized trend and it needs to be seen in the broader context of the coercion of vulnerable girls and young women from communities that are already marginalized by their faith, class and socioeconomic status,” said Mehdi Hasan, chairperson of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. “The ugly reality of forced conversions is that they are not seen as a crime, much less as a problem that should concern ‘mainstream’ (Muslim) Pakistan.”
In the majority of these cases, the girls are under 18. And while marriage under the age of 18 is illegal in Pakistan, the law is often ignored.
Meanwhile, there is no law banning forced conversions.
Child advocates say there is a clear lack of will by the government to tackle the problem.
“The government has done little in the past to stop such forced marriages,” the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said in its annual report. “(The executive branch) asked lawmakers to pass effective legislation to end the practice,” the report added, but nothing happened.
Meanwhile, the parents of victims are often ignored by authorities and have few options, say civil rights activists.
“Injustice is being done … and there is no one here to listen to these poor people,” said Veeru Kohli, a human rights activist based in Sindh. “I’ve lost count of the number of cases that have come up every month.”
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/forced-conversions-marriages-spike-in-pakistan.html
Sixteen-year-old Suneeta and her 12-year-old sister were walking home in March when they were kidnapped.
The men who took them forced the girls to convert to Islam.
“We were walking back to our house after working on the farm when men in a car came out of nowhere and dragged us in with them,” said Suneeta, who is Hindu and lives in Badin, a small city in the south of Pakistan. “The next thing we knew, we were in a shrine being forced to say the kalma (acceptance of Islam) by a cleric.”
The men who kidnapped the girls told their mother to pay the equivalent of $365 — an enormous amount for the poor farming family — or the men would marry off the girls.
Their mother begged and borrowed from within the Hindu community and paid the ransom. She got her girls back.
The family considers itself lucky.
Every year, thousands of Hindu and Christian girls and young women are kidnapped in Pakistan and forcibly married, disappearing from their families. And while these forced conversions have been going on for decades, a recent surge in reported cases has brought the issue back into the limelight.
Around 1,000 cases of Hindu and Christian girls being forced to convert were estimated in the province of southern Sindh alone in 2018, according to the annual report of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
There are no concrete numbers for the rest of the conservative country, which is around 96 percent Muslim.
“This appears to be a systematic, organized trend and it needs to be seen in the broader context of the coercion of vulnerable girls and young women from communities that are already marginalized by their faith, class and socioeconomic status,” said Mehdi Hasan, chairperson of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. “The ugly reality of forced conversions is that they are not seen as a crime, much less as a problem that should concern ‘mainstream’ (Muslim) Pakistan.”
In the majority of these cases, the girls are under 18. And while marriage under the age of 18 is illegal in Pakistan, the law is often ignored.
Meanwhile, there is no law banning forced conversions.
Child advocates say there is a clear lack of will by the government to tackle the problem.
“The government has done little in the past to stop such forced marriages,” the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said in its annual report. “(The executive branch) asked lawmakers to pass effective legislation to end the practice,” the report added, but nothing happened.
Meanwhile, the parents of victims are often ignored by authorities and have few options, say civil rights activists.
“Injustice is being done … and there is no one here to listen to these poor people,” said Veeru Kohli, a human rights activist based in Sindh. “I’ve lost count of the number of cases that have come up every month.”
https://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/forced-conversions-marriages-spike-in-pakistan.html
Hopefully that changes, heck, the US is still only just getting religious gay conversion therapy banned.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...945ae5db8fb_story.html?utm_term=.785896b435b8
And even the US had 200,000 forced teen marriages between 2010 and 2015.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/unicef...bout-child-marriage-in-the-us-1/#704de6195689
I mean you who has repeatedly said it is racist to refer to groups like Hamas as terrorists even though Hamas openly admits that they are targeting civilians and celebrate their successful attacks.
But you like Hamas' goals so you never want to comment on them. Keep on pretending that the US (and Israel) are intentionally murdering civilians while refusing to discuss the people who admit they are.
I wonder whether you actually believe you are interested in human rights or whether you have accepted your racial hatred is your prime motivator.
I have never said that, I say that its racist for you to imply that all of Gaza are Hamas and therefore terrorists. And that your use of the word terrorist is meant to dehumanize Palestinians in order to justify using the same techniques and acts against them. After all, Israel regularly targets and kills way more civilians, which is the definition of terrorism, but you, like Phil, refuse to use the word terrorism on those you support. Your use of the word 'terrorism' is based on the race of those who commit the acts.
Hamas has committed acts of terrorism, however since 2014 they have largely turned away from terrorism while Israel has started targeting and killing way more civilians, which should be labelled as state terrorism. Despite that they should still be taken to the ICC for war crimes as should Israel. Both should be taken to court for their actions.
I support ending the violence, giving full human rights to all, equal rights and peace.
I do not support Hamas or Israel.
The US Army does not purposely target innocent civilians to further a political, social or religious agenda.
Did this apply to the IRA or the Ulster Unionists who carried out terrorists attacks in the name of Catholics or Protestants???
Since the IRA/Sinn Fein are mostly atheist I doubt it had little to do with religion. It had more to do with history and nationalism.
Where do you get that notion???? Have they stated that they are "ATHEISTS" ????
No, because they carried out terrorists attacks to gain independence from England.
AFAIK they didnt bomb and kill people in the name of any religion
Does not make them atheists!! ISIS is not a religion. It is a cult that consists of some brainwashed individuals. They are satanists!!
And yet they commit all their terror attacks in the name of Islam, dont they??
I have never done that yet you have still repeatedly called me racist for describing Hamas as terrorists. You have instead refused to condemn them as currently being terrorists despite their routine admissions that they intentionally kill random Jews.
Funny. I have routinely described attacks targeting civilians as terrorism whether the perpetrators were Palestinian, Jewish, Kurdish, Tamil, or Irish. Meanwhile you have stated that the word is used only to dehumanize then immediately used it describe Israel.
Hamas completely rejects the idea of equal rights and refuses to be involved in any peace process yet all you do is make excuses for them. Hmm.
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I should tell my (purposely) distant relatives that. They still think the conflict is between Catholics and Protestants.
19 slaughtered in Burkina Faso by suspected Jihadis: https://www.france24.com/en/20190610-nineteen-killed-burkina-fasos-volatile-north
Updated tally:
Muslims: 22 attacks - 146 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Updated tally:
Muslims: 22 attacks - 146 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
How do you know they just don't commit their terror attacks against the foreign invaders?
And since George Bush said that 'god' told him to attack Iraq, how come you don't label that war as Christian terrorism?
Different standards for different races?
Taliban kill an entire family of 6: https://www.khaama.com/roadside-bomb-explosion-kills-six-of-a-family-in-kandahar-03592/
Updated tally:
Muslims: 23 attacks - 152 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Updated tally:
Muslims: 23 attacks - 152 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
