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Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

Phil C. McNasty

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Lyon bombing suspect was an illegal Algerian. His name is........you guessed it.........Mohamed Hickem:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/32470-lyon-terror-suspect-an-illegal-algerian

The man accused of planting and detonating a bomb in Lyon, France, last week is an illegal alien.

Citing French media, Breitbart reported yesterday that Mohamed Hickem M., 24, whom police arrested on Monday in connection with the bombing, is an illegal Algerian. The bomb left outside a bakery in the third largest city in France injured 13, including a child.

The bombing is one of 25 terror attacks, all by Muslims, some claiming allegiance to ISIS, since 2015
And I know some of you wont think Breitbart is a legit news source, so here's the French version:

https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/explosion-a-lyon-la-famille-du-suspect-relachee/

Les gardes à vue des deux parents de Mohammed Hicham M., principal suspect dans l'enquête sur l'explosion qui a fait 13 blessés, rue Victor Hugo, à Lyon, vendredi dernier, ainsi que celle de son jeune frère ont été levées ce jeudi.

L'enquête se poursuit, une semaine après l'explosion du colis piégé, rue Victor Hugo, dans le 2e arrondissement de Lyon. Alors que le principal suspect Mohammed Hicham M., ancien étudiant en informatique, qui a avoué avoir déposé le colis piégé, est toujours interrogé à la Sous-direction anti-terroriste (Sdat) de Levallois, en région parisienne, la garde à vue de ses parents a en revanche été levée ce jeudi. "Aucun élément à charge n’est apparu contre eux à ce stade", explique une source judiciaire citée par Le Progrès. Le petit frère de Mohammed Hicham M. a été relâché dans la soirée.

Allégeance à Daesh ?

Devant les enquêteurs, le jeune homme de 24 ans a affirmé avoir fait allégence à Daesh, bien que l'organisation terroriste n'a pas revendiqué l'attaque de Lyon, à cette heure. La perquisition de son ordinateur a révélé des recherches relatives au djihad, mais pas de preuves d'un quelconque lien avec Daesh, précise BFM-TV. Face aux enquêteurs, le principal suspect aurait tenu religieux intégriste et avoué une pratique rigoriste de l'Islam. Hier, il avait déclaré avoir commis l'acte perpétré il y a une semaine à Lyon pour faire monter le vote populiste lors des élections européennes (lire ici)
 

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Lyon bombing suspect was an illegal Algerian. His name is........you guessed it.........Mohamed Hickem:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/32470-lyon-terror-suspect-an-illegal-algerian


And I know some of you wont think Breitbart is a legit news source, so here's the French version:

https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/explosion-a-lyon-la-famille-du-suspect-relachee/
Legit news source or not, it's interesting that Breitbart couldn't even correctly copy the name it took from its French source, and you ignored your French source to repeat their inaccurate version.

Clearly the only thing that mattered to you both was … we all guessed it… the name Mohamed. The rest was just wasted bandwidth as you tried to look respectable. Your E for Effort is in the mail.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Legit news source or not, it's interesting that Breitbart couldn't even correctly copy the name it took from its French source, and you ignored your French source to repeat their inaccurate version
Actually, in Arabic a bunch of different spellings are considered acceptable.
Mohammed, Mohamed, Muhammad, Muhammat, Mohammad, etc are just variations of the same name.

Please do your homework before embarrassing yourself

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-the-uk-as-is-mohammed-muhammad-9895605.html

Variations can include Mohamad, Mohamed, Mohammad, Mohammed, Muhamad, Muhamed, Muhammad, Muhammed, Muhammet and many more
 

oldjones

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Actually, in Arabic a bunch of different spellings are considered acceptable.
Mohammed, Mohamed, Muhammad, Muhammat, Mohammad, etc are just variations of the same name.

Please do your homework before embarrassing yourself

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-the-uk-as-is-mohammed-muhammad-9895605.html
Your fascinating linguistics history, and ordinary difficulties transliterating from other alphabets aside, when you cite a source, it is expected you'll use it.

Since neither you nor Breitbart did so, one can only wonder what other material you may have introduced from sources you failed to cite. Or made up yourselves.

Where did you and Breitbart pull "Hickem" from, and why didn't you give us that source, instead of offering ones you obviously ignored?

And yes, I do understand you cannot speak for Breitbart.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Your fascinating linguistics history, and ordinary difficulties transliterating from other alphabets aside, when you cite a source, it is expected you'll use it.

Since neither you nor Breitbart did so, one can only wonder what other material you may have introduced from sources you failed to cite. Or made up yourselves.

Where did you and Breitbart pull "Hickem" from, and why didn't you give us that source, instead of offering ones you obviously ignored?

And yes, I do understand you cannot speak for Breitbart
Hey oldguy, what do a few irrelevant translation errors have to do with the moral of the story, which is yet another muslim committed a terrorist attack in Europe??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Roadside bomb north of Iraqi capital kills 4 security forces: https://www.9and10news.com/i/roadside-bomb-north-of-iraqi-capital-kills-4-security-forces/

Contrary to what one terrorist apologist ITT says, Iraq is not currently at war. The US invasion ended a long time ago, and ISIS territory has been reconquered. All thats left from ISIS is a small number of rogue Jihadi's


Updated tally:

Muslims: 17 attacks - 96 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
 

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Hey oldguy, what do a few irrelevant translation errors have to do with the moral of the story, which is yet another muslim committed a terrorist attack in Europe??
Its just more evidence that your goal is not accuracy but to inflame hatred of immigrants, particularly Muslims.
 

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1) Hamas rockets are war crimes because they can't be aimed at military targets only, they are indiscriminate weapons, as opposed to Israeli snipers and missiles which are highly accurate and target civilians directly.
And you avoid the question again. Do you think Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense?
(and I'll not bother asking you what productive benefit can those rockets have)

2) Hamas and Israel both admit that they target civilians, so are you like phil mcnasty and claiming that only one race are terrorists? Why does your definition only apply to Palestinians and not Israelis? Why won't you admit that Israelis are also terrorists?
And again you refuse to answer. Do you think Hamas is a terrorist organization?

Hamas openly admits to targeting civilians but you refuse to refer to them as terrorists and instead try to blame Israel. Also worth mentioning, I have condemned Jewish terrorists, Kurdish terrorists, Irish terrorists, Tamil terrorists. You on the other hand refuse to condemn Palestinians who are terrorists like Hamas and go so far as claim it is racist to do so.


Once again you prove yourself a complete fraud when it comes to human rights and condemnation of terrorism.



p.s Hamas just released another video bragging how successful they were at hitting civilian targets. https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-video-hamas-boasts-it-found-a-way-to-overcome-iron-dome/
 

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Roadside bomb north of Iraqi capital kills 4 security forces: https://www.9and10news.com/i/roadside-bomb-north-of-iraqi-capital-kills-4-security-forces/

Contrary to what one terrorist apologist ITT says, Iraq is not currently at war. The US invasion ended a long time ago, and ISIS territory has been reconquered. All thats left from ISIS is a small number of rogue Jihadi's


Updated tally:

Muslims: 17 attacks - 96 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Ok, so if its not a war than there is no reason not to update your stats with some real numbers.

Add in 1300 for right wingers with this story.
IS fight: US-led coalition says it killed 1,300 civilians in Syria and Iraq


Unless of course you have some other rule that you need to use to exclude deaths by white people/right wingers

Why don't we test whether these acts are terrorism for you, just to be clear.
How about a sniper, hiding behind a fence, shooting a legless protester in the head?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...est-disabled-no-legs-wheelchair-a8114766.html

How about using snipers to shoot 22 children?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier

How about using dumdums, or exploding bullets, on protesters?
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...ng-champion-alaa-al-dali-190601064007382.html

Why are those not acts of terrorism?
 
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Frankfooter

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p.s Hamas just released another video bragging how successful they were at hitting civilian targets. https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-video-hamas-boasts-it-found-a-way-to-overcome-iron-dome/
According to your article:
“We employed a tactic of massive launches toward a single target to overcome Iron Dome,” the terror group claimed. “The heaviest fire was used after [Israel] hit high-rise buildings.”
Sounds like Israel's terrorist activities, targeting civilian high rise buildings, inspired more terrorism.
Take them both to the ICC and stop both sides targeting civilians is what I say.

Why do you refuse to condemn Israel's clear targeting of civilians, through targeting high rises and civilian protesters, and then argue that only Hamas' actions should be stopped?
Are you just as racist as Phil and refuse to use the term terrorist based on race?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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oldjones

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Hey oldguy, what do a few irrelevant translation errors have to do with the moral of the story, which is yet another muslim committed a terrorist attack in Europe??
You claim they're irrelevant errors, but how do we know? Which Muslim? The one you call Hickem, or the one with a different name your source talks about? Why did you post that French source you didn't use? Are you being stubborn about not citing your real source? Or just ashamed to admit you're a bad typist, and worse proof-reader, but, hey! it's only TERB?

Either way, you seem to be saying we just have to accept that you don't care about accuracy in your posts. I'd rather not.
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As to what you call your moral: I'm sure at least couple more than "yet another" man committed the crime of rape in Europe that day. There are lots of bad people in the world, but fortunately the decent ones far outnumber them. The rapes certainly do not prove any general circumstance or class of people. Did you think you actually made a more general point than 'there was a terrorist attack'?

You didn't.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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You claim they're irrelevant errors, but how do we know? Which Muslim? The one you call Hickem, or the one with a different name your source talks about?
They are both the same guy, just spelled differently. There's only been one Lyon bomber this past month.

Let me know if you need further help with anything
 

Frankfooter

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ISIS kills 9 civilians in Iraq. Their crime, collecting truffles: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/01/c_138108775.htm


Updated tally:

Muslims: 21 attacks - 127 deaths
Right-wingers: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Islamophobes: 0 attacks - 0 deaths
Confirmed as a racist list.
Phil was given multiple examples of civilians targeted and killed that he refuses to add to his list because of rules he uses to exclude any race but Muslims.

Not at all surprising considering his previous statements here on this board.
Your lot cant be trusted, thats why they are kept apart with walls and fences.
Until Palestinians finally show they can behave themselves and perhaps are willing to come to some type of peace agreement I will continue to support apartheid.
Now if you wanna make the case that I'm Islamophobe you would definitely have a point
 

oldjones

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They are both the same guy, just spelled differently. There's only been one Lyon bomber this past month.

Let me know if you need further help with anything
You already supplied a sample of that help. Embarrassed at citing Breitbart as your source, you offered the pretence it came from a French one. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
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