Racism due to corona virus

[malata]

So it’s less that vaccines aren’t that effective and more that it’s not always easy to know which vaccines people should be given.

makes you wonder how effective the upcoming covid-19 vaccine would be. even if it was 30% effective, it's still 70% chance you'll catch it. the flu vaccine this year is 60% effective. hopefully this improves over time

 

[malata]

Not the same thing. Covid-19 is one specific virus, not many, many different viruses like the various flu strains. Thus there should be only one vaccine for it rather than having to guess which one to give people.

they say it would take up to 11 months to formulate this vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/science...outbreak-help-in-race-for-coronavirus-vaccine

Cepi, which is funded by several countries and philanthropic donors, was set up three years ago in the wake of the Ebola epidemic, which killed 11,000 people. Despite an Ebola vaccine (later shown to be almost 100% effective) having been in development for a decade, it was not deployed until more than a year into the epidemic.
This time the aim is to have a viable vaccine in production within as little as 16 weeks – although testing for safety and efficacy will take longer.

One advantage is that the new coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, belongs to the same family as the severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars), for which a vaccine was developed following the 2002 outbreak. “Certainly that information will give us a head start,” said Prof Brendan Wren, dean of the faculty of infectious and tropical diseases at London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM).

 

[malata]

Yes and no. The initial estimate was 12-18 months, but there’s been a lot of promising research. Researchers at UT Austin have already been able to create a model of the coronavirus and are optimistic that that work will greatly expedite the creation of a vaccine. In fact, a company in Texas is claiming they already have a completed vaccine and are just waiting on government approval. Who knows if they’re telling the truth, but in any case, a vaccine may not be anywhere near as far off as we thought.

I should also point out that aside from a few hotspots in certain parts of China, the spread of the virus is already starting to slow down. We’re seeing more patients make full recoveries and fewer new cases week by week.

thanks for your well thought out research. i did find PA's links more entertaining

 

[St2221]

I should also point out that aside from a few hotspots in certain parts of China, the spread of the virus is already starting to slow down.

And I would also point out that is completely false. In a matter of 2-3 days, the number of cases in South Korea, Iran and Italy has shown exponential growth.

South Korea alone has more than 200 cases in the last 24 hours. What is even more worrying there besides that number is a small number of those cases do not have any connections to the church cluster, so they cannot be traced

Iran has went from basically nothing to 5 deaths and 28 cases, with cities being quarantined in a matter of days

The virus is definitely not slowing down in other parts of the world. We have been lucky so far in Toronto. But as has been seen in other parts of the world, all it takes is one spreader and an unfortunate set of circumstances for it to blow up uncontrollably

 

[sp free]

I think this virus is dangerous, and that we are grossly unprepared for it here in Ontario, but that said, 200 cases in a country of 50 Million is not really that many. Last I read, South Korea has tested over 16000 people to find those 200.

Ontario has tested less than 500. Don’t test, don’t find. That’s our current strategy it seems.

 

[St2221]

I think this virus is dangerous, and that we are grossly unprepared for it here in Ontario, but that said, 200 cases in a country of 50 Million is not really that many. Last I read, South Korea has tested over 16000 people to find those 200.

Ontario has tested less than 500. Don’t test, don’t find. That’s our current strategy it seems.

I would agree with that. The number of cases in S. Korea is not much. For now. Problem is without adequate quarantine/isolation, exponential growth can make those numbers explode quickly. As I mentioned, a number of those cases do not have contact tracing, so whoever they got it from may still be unknowingly spreading it

The virus is dangerous, but I think the economic consequences will be even more severe. Companies are starting to warn on quaterly earnings. If the virus is not contained by the summer, there will be dire consequences when people lose 20-30% on their investment portfolio

 

[sp free]

Losing bullshit paper vs life?

 

[St2221]

Losing bullshit paper vs life?

Just making the point most people here are taking a cavalier attitude towards the virus thinking it won't affect them

But when they see at year's end how much their portfolio tanked and the economy possibly tipped into a recession, then it will be clearer how big this is

 

[malata]

Just making the point most people here are taking a cavalier attitude towards the virus thinking it won't affect them

But when they see at year's end how much their portfolio tanked and the economy possibly tipped into a recession, then it will be clearer how big this is

word of advice. while the stock market is in a tail-spin, you buy buy buy. you can buy me a corona later

 

[St2221]

word of advice. while the stock market is in a tail-spin, you buy buy buy. you can buy me a corona later

Oh, I know. Back in early 2009, I loaded up on bank stocks. The main problem is you never know when the bottom is. I remember buying it and losing 15% in days. I've been laughing 6 months later until now, but definitely it's easier said than done to pick when to go back in

 

[malata]

Oh, I know. Back in early 2009, I loaded up on bank stocks. The main problem is you never know when the bottom is. I remember buying it and losing 15% in days. I've been laughing 6 months later until now, but definitely it's easier said than done to pick when to go back in

you have to hold on to it brother. think long term (keep in mind, i'm talking indices and not nortal). timing is key if you're a short-term trader. bottom pickers become cotton pickers

 

[autumn96]

There's lots of existing tension between Asians and other minority groups and I think that's really bubbled to the surface with coronavirus. Personally (as a half black person) I've experienced LOTS of racism from Asians in Toronto so I can speak to that. It's not an excuse for discriminating against people due to coronavirus but what I'm saying is, I don't think the animosity would be as bad if that tension did not already exist.

 

[fall]

I think this virus is dangerous, and that we are grossly unprepared for it here in Ontario, but that said, 200 cases in a country of 50 Million is not really that many.

Which country you are talking about?

 

[St2221]

you have to hold on to it brother. think long term (keep in mind, i'm talking indices and not nortal). timing is key if you're a short-term trader. bottom pickers become cotton pickers

I am long term. I guess I should have said the 15% decline was just a paper loss, I didn't sell. It sucks back then when you realize you could have bought it so much cheaper by waiting a few days, but that's just hindsight. I still have most of the stock I bought then and am quite happy I bought when I did

 

[sp free]

Which country you are talking about?

South Korea.

 

[Darts]

Oh, I know. Back in early 2009, I loaded up on bank stocks. The main problem is you never know when the bottom is. I remember buying it and losing 15% in days. I've been laughing 6 months later until now, but definitely it's easier said than done to pick when to go back in

you have to hold on to it brother. think long term (keep in mind, i'm talking indices and not nortal). timing is key if you're a short-term trader. bottom pickers become cotton pickers

I am long term. I guess I should have said the 15% decline was just a paper loss, I didn't sell. It sucks back then when you realize you could have bought it so much cheaper by waiting a few days, but that's just hindsight. I still have most of the stock I bought then and am quite happy I bought when I did

Guys, you're pissing off Shack. This thread is about viruses, not about your stock market successes. Speaking of stocks, no need to go back to 2009. Just think of Home Trust in 2018. I think they are a possible buyout target.

"6 equities research analysts have issued 12-month price targets for Home Capital Group's shares. Their forecasts range from C$25.00 to C$37.00. On average, they expect Home Capital Group's stock price to reach C$32.33 in the next year. This suggests a possible upside of 4.1% from the stock's current price. View Analyst Price Targets for Home Capital Group."

 

[malata]

Guys, you're pissing off Shack. This thread is about viruses, not about your stock market successes. Speaking of stocks, no need to go back to 2009. Just think of Home Trust in 2018. I think they are a possible buyout target.

"6 equities research analysts have issued 12-month price targets for Home Capital Group's shares. Their forecasts range from C$25.00 to C$37.00. On average, they expect Home Capital Group's stock price to reach C$32.33 in the next year. This suggests a possible upside of 4.1% from the stock's current price. View Analyst Price Targets for Home Capital Group."

did you follow my advice skyrider, err i mean darts

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?599061-Home-Trust&highlight=home+trust

 

[TOraps23]

Yet you have a "no black clients" policy in your ads.

That’s not racism that’s preference. Lol

 

[canada-man]

That’s not racism that’s preference. Lol

which is only directed at and reserved for black men.

 

[sp free]

It’s my preference to not catch the coronavirus.