propeer SP-client etiquette

[massman]

So did Tiger Woods until his wife found all his texts. Hee, hee, hee. Never leave an electronic trail. The divorce will cost you $500 million.

I only wish i made enough to have $500M at risk in a divorce

If this is an issue the client should get a disposable hobby phone. As tiger should have as well. 60 bucks coul have saved him several $M. And on the hobby phone, delete the texts. Unless you are one of the guys described in the thread that want to txt sps repeatedly to pretend you have a gf. In that case, get a life

 

[massman]

He spoke to me on the phone beforehand, I post all my restrictions on my website, I have reviews on terb confirming what menu items I offer and don't offer, he was texting me prior to arriving at my place, he saw my ad on backpage where he could have emailed me from.... There are lots of other opportunities to figure out a girl's menu versus awkwardly asking her so matter-of-factly to her face with bills in hand. That's something you should only have to do when it comes to streetwalkers!

Whore or not, I am most definitely not a streetwalker.

Your website it crystal clear. Unfortunately, and I hate to say it, but there is a reason some guys "need to pay for it".

 

[esoterica]

Originally Posted by SydneyFox
I don't care what anyone says, but staring me in the eyes and asking me if I will kiss you and suck your dick without a condom is WORSE than asking via text before hand


She says no asking via text

When do you ask ?

You don't. If you don't see it advertised, assume it is not available.

 

[AudreyK]

Wow, what a lot of great reading and some great points. I try to return my emails promptly but it can get exhausting and time consuming. I am trying to book clients after all so if a few emails go back and forth and it seems the guy is simply looking for a penpal I tend to end it quickly with a "It's been great chatting with you. Feel free to email me when you are ready to book." What I find surprising are the ones who will email "are you there?" then a minute later "are you going to answer me?" and another message a minute later "I guess I'm not good enough for you. Your loss." I'm usually dumbfounded by these emails and it takes everything in me to not send off a harsh "are you kidding me?" reply but I simply hit delete. I wonder if these men think I'm sitting there hitting refresh every 20 seconds or something. Maybe I had an appointment, maybe I'm in the shower, maybe I'm taking a nap. Who knows. I wonder how they function in day to day life with these expectations.

As for asking about my services, I'm ok with that as long as it's tasteful. So I don't mind the acronyms but there were a few I had to look up! I understand that a client needs to know what to expect and I'm always honest with them. I do not commit to DFK or BBBJ until I meet you and can determine you didn't just inhale a pack of cigarettes and that your "naughty bits" were recently bathed. With soap. Most men are more than happy to jump in the shower to quickly lather up. Nothing worse than to start to head down to the nether regions and get a whiff of some sweaty parts. UGH! Deodorant and cologne lightly applied is also appreciated. And this may be a personal thing but it amazes me how many men like us ladies to have shaved lady parts but then present Chewbacca to us below the belt. I love a nicely shaved or closely trimmed male member. I tend to show my appreciation ten-fold! (wink)

Haggling over prices to me seems distasteful and classless. A gentlemen does not haggle unless he is in a country where it is expected. And last time I checked we are not in Mexico. So pay as advertised. There are ladies at every price point. If one is not in your range, simply move on to the one that is. But to start our time together by begging for a discount only tells me our time together is going to be met with other demands I cannot meet. It's best to have the fee in an envelope or to place it in plain sight upon arrival.

 

[massman]

Great post Audrey.

But, and I've said this before, I just don't get the "envelope". I've been doing this for a while, and rarely, if ever use an envelope. I don't see the purpose. Sure it "hides" the nastiness of the business transaction, but hell, if I have to send a letter, I can never find a freaking envelope, let alone have one on hand when visiting escorts!! I do try to have the presence of mind to have precounted the donation, as counting in front (often in a dimly lit room) is awkward, but I do often resort to the counting in front as well! Usually cuz I've just visited the ATM 5 minutes before the session!

Anyway I guess th most important part is that I pay, and pay the agreed upon amount! It still strikes me as strange how many girls are made uncomfortble by the act of exchanging funds. I guess they are women at heart, and like to avoid thinking about such nastiness it's kinda cute actually!

 

[letsn0twastetime]

I am no legal expert but one SP told me that she cannot directly take money from the hobbist hands otherwise its considered a crim. That's why the envelop or simply leaving it somewhere is preferred. Which brings up another question, how many hobbits have ever tried to short change an SP if the SP cant handle the money until afterwards? At least negotiating upfront is still somewhat honest albeit distasteful.

 

[massman]

Sex with hobbits is definitely illegal!!

And the idea that "taking money handed to you" is illegal is hogwash. The illegalities in Canada associated with paid sex are related to 1) public solicitation 2) being a "found in" in a bawdy house and 3) living off the avails. None of this has anything whatsoever to do with the hand to hand handover of cash. there is nothing whatsoever about touching the cash, tho I have encountered many girls who much prefer to pick it up after I've left it somewhere. For some it is cultural, some cultures consider it rude to pass money hand to hand, and other girls even believe it's bad luck.

Re the money counting, while it is sweet if they don't count, I don't take offense if they do. I never short them, so it is not an issue. If they feel better knowing all is there, then I am happy. Indeed they sometimes even have been known to hand a 20 back if I've accidentally overpaid.

 

[fuji]

I am no legal expert but one SP told me that she cannot directly take money from the hobbist hands otherwise its considered a crim. That's why the envelop or simply leaving it somewhere is preferred.

That's an American thing. Prostitution is not illegal in Canada, you can legally pay for sex here. Any SP who says that is likely an American visiting Canada who just doesn't know that.

 

[massman]

That's an American thing. Prostitution is not illegal in Canada, you can legally pay for sex here. Any SP who says that is likely an American visiting Canada who just doesn't know that.

Or they watched too many Hollywood "hooker" movies! Where if they get caught with the $250, they can say they "found it"

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Yep! Why should one client expect a discount while others do not. IMO it's not only rude to the SP but also to other clients in general. It's like they are saying they're better or 'different' than other guys. Some may even go as far as to say that. :-(

For example:
"Hi, I am tall, built, hot and hung....how much for me?" Best answer? "I charge by the inch"

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Totally. I had an SP admit that to me once. I appreciated that she told me and I let her know it. Shitty that I got dumped, but better to know the score.

I have only done this once and I gave the hh guy his hh free later in the week. It is hard to say no to a three hour booking

 

[Rockslinger]

I gave the hh guy his hh free later in the week.

Sounds fair. Air Canada does the same when they bump a "volunteer" from an overbooked flight.

BTW: I am shocked by all the talk about requests for "discounts". I thought hobbyists were a docile, meek and weak willed group that didn't have the nerve to ask for discounts.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

On one hand the ladies want it their way on their terms

The ladies are providing a service; a very personal one. Of course they get to decide what they are willing to offer and how they want to offer it. If the ladies were not allowed to operate on their own terms, the transaction would be a form of assault.

On the other hand, the gentlemen are customers. They have every right not to be clients of SPs who do not offer a service they want. But they don't have a right to expect the ladies to do anything they don't want to do.

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Sounds fair. Air Canada does the same when they bump a "volunteer" from an overbooked flight.

BTW: I am shocked by all the talk about requests for "discounts". I thought hobbyists were a docile, meek and weak willed group that didn't have the nerve to ask for discounts.

LOL Hardly,,,,,,most are wonderful men and are a delight to spend time with. On occasion however there will be the one who thinks he is doing us a favour by gracing us with his gorgeous hung self.

 

[letsn0twastetime]

Haven't had many hobbits book me

Oooppss my bad! Damn ipad autocorrect I never thought of asking the guy to count it for her but that's a great idea.

 

[letsn0twastetime]

That's an American thing. Prostitution is not illegal in Canada, you can legally pay for sex here. Any SP who says that is likely an American visiting Canada who just doesn't know that.

I heard it depends if its outcall or incall? outcall ok but incall is the "living off the avails of running a bawdy house or something" wasn't there a case asking for clarification of this or something since an outcall is generally more dangerous? i.e. unknown surroundings

 

[Yoga Face]

LOL Hardly,,,,,,most are wonderful men and are a delight to spend time with. On occasion however there will be the one who thinks he is doing us a favour by gracing us with his gorgeous hung self.

I would hate to think you passionately dislike your clientèle and what you do and are in it because you have to

That would be wrong

That would be sad

 

[Brill]

I would hate to think you passionately dislike your clientèle and what you do and are in it because you have to

That would be wrong

That would be sad

I'd say she's genuine in liking people in general, no woman likes a guy who thinks highly of himself and feels they're doing her a favour because he's well-hung.

 

[fuji]

I heard it depends if its outcall or incall?

There are several things related to prostitution that are illegal in Canada, but prostitution itself is not illegal.

Incall is illegal, it is illegal to either "keep" or be "found in" a place that is commonly resorted to for prostitution (or gambling). The exchange of money still won't factor into the charge, though, as the charge is being there not engaging in prostitution yourself. The police would first establish that it's being used for prostitution. Then they would arrest you for being there. Whether you engaged in prostitution yourself is irrelevant--it's the place itself that is illegal.

Public solicitation is another one that is illegal, so you cannot flag someone down on the street--streetwalking is illegal. Similarly solicitation in a hotel bar or other public place.

Outcall violates none of the things that are illegal, so it's legal.

The incall law is rarely enforced unless there's something worse going on--like underage prostitution, abuse, or human trafficking. The laws against solicitation in public are frequently enforced via sweeps.

You will note the distinct lack of threads on terb of people who have been arrested and are looking for legal advice--it's simply rare.

 

[danislaw]

Haggling over a few bucks for services in person? Are you serious? Can't these fucking creeps at least pretend to be normal for a 30 minute session?