propeer SP-client etiquette

[Casey.xox]

I know everyone likes being replied to, but when SPs have 50 men trying to get a hold of them, it is un realistic to expect same day response, or even next day...I'm not going to stay up an extra 2 hours after a work day, to message/call 30 johns to say obciously I was busy and I'm not available. If you can't get a hold of her, leave ONE message. If she dosnt reply, you will probably get her the next time she's working.


Also I find MANY clients seem to be forgetting,
Its not OUR job to convince you to see us, its YOUR job to convince us to take you as a client.

If you don't want to hear about my boyfriend, don't ask personal questions, some guys expect you to be this single hot chick that they can text when their bored after they've paid for business... No way. I have a life, a boyfriend, a house and dogs. Sorry to break it to you all. Clients come after allll that. I like my job and I like what I do but at the end of the day its all about money, as is everyones job.

One more client pet peeve:
Trying to talk dirty on the phone. All you need to find out is when where how much and services... Start talking dirty and I stop talking alltogether. I'm not giving freebiess lol

One thing other SPs do that bug me, is set up fakecalls to 'steal'. business? C'mon ladies.... U really want that cheap client? Have em! One girl sent me to a city, to a wrong address, but it worked out cuz my next call was just down the street lol.

 

[rld]

I know everyone likes being replied to, but when SPs have 50 men trying to get a hold of them, it is un realistic to expect same day response, or even next day...I'm not going to stay up an extra 2 hours after a work day, to message/call 30 johns to say obciously I was busy and I'm not available. If you can't get a hold of her, leave ONE message. If she dosnt reply, you will probably get her the next time she's working.

With great respect Casey, I, and many others manage e-mails from way more than 50 people a day, and manage to do less than 24 hour waiting times to return e-mails. It is simply a matter of professionalism to return communications promptly from civil inquiries. Anything else is a sign you do not take your business or your customers or potential new customers seriously. I have had great e-mail communications from some ladies I suspect are very popular and I respect and visit them more because of it.

 

[massman]

Also I find MANY clients seem to be forgetting,
Its not OUR job to convince you to see us, its YOUR job to convince us to take you as a client.

While i see what you are trying to say, this is a two way street. And in fact it is not the client's "job" at all. But i take your point that most girls will want to screen out the undesirable clients from the start.

But if i get the sense that an sp is jerking me around, doesnt respect me or my time, i wont book. Simple as that.

 

[Hangman]

Well, this is certainly enlightening. I've got a couple names to add to my NTLD list...

Not your job to convine me to seek you out? I guess you're not advertising. And my job to convince you to see me as a client? LOL.

 

[krayjee]

"Oh, sorry, my friend just came to visit (or some other obvious lie), can you call back in ten minutes?" Eventually you're told "Oh, no, sorry. I'm not even at that location."

haha...this must be a very popular line SPs used. I got that one two months ago. I was stood up for about an hr passed our appointment time with no response at all. Finally when I got hold of her and was told long time no see friend showed up and took her out for dinner. I wouldn't mind if she called or text me and canceled it, but leaving me waiting pissed me off a bit. Thank God it was an outcall and I was at home watching Golf. Saved me 5 bills and gave myself a set of new golf clubs..

 

[Casey.xox]

I only work part time hours so when I have people trying to contact me every day all week, your not going to get a reply unless I'm working. Do you expect business to return inquiries when they are not open? No. So why should they expect a reply when I'm not working? God forbid I hire a personal assistant to help, because then I won't be 'independant' to some johns.

I do advertise, and I agree that's my job, but again, its not my job to convince you further. I have my ads posted, with pics, services and donations. I meant I actually have clients say "convince me why I should see you", that's not my job. Either you want to see me or you don't, I'm not here to talk dirty to try to convince you to pick me over another SP. And really when I'm screening clients, if you don't sound like the greatest person you get denied. So that being said, johns DO have to convice us that they are not another time waster like the rest.

Another thing SPs do that bug me is lowering their price.
When I'm in KW my hourly rate is lower by 100, because there are SO many girls giving it for 40 and 60, you can't even compete with that. At the same time It grosses me out and I don't want clients that see these cheap girls because they have to service 4 men to make the same amount I make seeing 1 client. Where I see two, she sees 8. To me the cheaper you go, the more you in crease your risk. Anyone else feel the same? Feel differently?

Do you prefer paying cheap and getting a girl that has seen many men?
Or do you prefer to pay more to see a girl that hasn't seen more than 1 or 2 men?

 

[fuji]

As I see it in a marketing sense an SP's job is to:

1. Post up advertising material convincing clients why they want to see her, with photos, stats, rates, etc.

2. Prompt but short and to the point replies to any inquiries via email/text/phone

It's certainly not an SP's job to spend a significant amount of time with you going over things via email/text or on the phone, any sensible questions a client may have can likely be answered with a single sentence, and a client who keeps going back and forth repeatedly is probably just trolling.

I'm certainly not going to do anything as a client to convince an SP to see me. I'm going to give my number and the time and place and that's about all the information I will provide. I also wouldn't expect an SP to spend much more than a minute or two on the phone with me going over anything missing in her ad. If the ad doesn't convince me to see her, and my questions can't be answered quickly via a phone call--well there are other SP with more interesting ads.

 

[rld]

I only work part time hours so when I have people trying to contact me every day all week, your not going to get a reply unless I'm working. Do you expect business to return inquiries when they are not open? No. So why should they expect a reply when I'm not working? God forbid I hire a personal assistant to help, because then I won't be 'independant' to some johns.

I do advertise, and I agree that's my job, but again, its not my job to convince you further. I have my ads posted, with pics, services and donations. I meant I actually have clients say "convince me why I should see you", that's not my job. Either you want to see me or you don't, I'm not here to talk dirty to try to convince you to pick me over another SP. And really when I'm screening clients, if you don't sound like the greatest person you get denied. So that being said, johns DO have to convice us that they are not another time waster like the rest.

Another thing SPs do that bug me is lowering their price.
When I'm in KW my hourly rate is lower by 100, because there are SO many girls giving it for 40 and 60, you can't even compete with that. At the same time It grosses me out and I don't want clients that see these cheap girls because they have to service 4 men to make the same amount I make seeing 1 client. Where I see two, she sees 8. To me the cheaper you go, the more you in crease your risk. Anyone else feel the same? Feel differently?

Do you prefer paying cheap and getting a girl that has seen many men?
Or do you prefer to pay more to see a girl that hasn't seen more than 1 or 2 men?

I have not seen your ad. Does it say that you only work part time and that some queries will go unanswered for a long period of time?

I would have no problem with you hiring someone to assist you with your e-mails. In fact I would never know if you hired someone to assist you with your e-mails...

And on the issue of pricing, I think there is a market for both types of ladies, but personally I am willing to spend a bit more to see someone who may be a little fresher.

 

[Casey.xox]

As I see it in a marketing sense an SP's job is to:

1. Post up advertising material convincing clients why they want to see her, with photos, stats, rates, etc.

2. Prompt but short and to the point replies to any inquiries via email/text/phone

It's certainly not an SP's job to spend a significant amount of time with you going over things via email/text or on the phone, any sensible questions a client may have can likely be answered with a single sentence, and a client who keeps going back and forth repeatedly is probably just trolling.

I'm certainly not going to do anything as a client to convince an SP to see me. I'm going to give my number and the time and place and that's about all the information I will provide. I also wouldn't expect an SP to spend much more than a minute or two on the phone with me going over anything missing in her ad. If the ad doesn't convince me to see her, and my questions can't be answered quickly via a phone call--well there are other SP with more interesting ads.

I only post an ad about every 2 weeks, and yes they say limited availablity, to book in advanced, I don't do incalls, and I only work a few days a week, and I don't work past midnight.

Most of the time I get asked if I am available that second for an incall, at like 3 am lol the exact opposite of EVERYTHInG my ad says ha ha that's why its frusterating.

Unfortunalety most of my clients can't be like you the minute I say I have a personal assistant they think that means 'pimp'.

I agree, if there's no answer and you can't get questions answered then by all means see another SP, but when a client has ALL the info, then calls to say "convince me why I should see you and not her", THAT'S not my job. If my picrures and the sound of my voice aren't enough, then I'm not the SP for you.

 

[Casey.xox]

That's okay hun, I don't want clients that can't respect the fact that I have a life outside my job. I respect my clients, if they respect me and its professional all the way.
I like my job and what I do, you get to meet interesting people.
But like I said this is a job. I have a life. So when people text me and ask me out after a session, I tell them straight up I have a boyfriend and I'm not interested. There's nothing wrong with that, and I never bring up my personal life unless clients ask.

And honeslty money is the main reason 99 percent of SPs got in the business in the first place, do you really think girls would risk their health by seeing thousands of men for fun? Most likely not.

I'm being honest and if you don't like that, that's fine. I'm here to discuss, and get views from not only other SP, but clients as well.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

Replying to respectful inquiries from clieints is good business and shows class and professionalism.

I don't think an SP has an obligation to carry on extended correspondence off the clock (though there are some SPs that I do have recurring e-mail dialogs with between visits). I also don't think that a client can reasonably expect to e-mail for same-day service and always get a timely reply - especially if the SP is independent and working, same day may not be possible. However, if I e-mail an Sp five days or more in advance, I think it's reasonable to expect she'll respond within a day or two. Bottom line is that I have a pretty busy schedule myself and often like to book appointments a week or more ahead. If an SP can't respond in time to confirm my visit, I'll look elsewhere for reliable service.

 

[DELETDrileydaniels]

I've heard some SPs (and other white knight terbites) try to justify this behaviour on the part of SPs on the basis of "well John's do it to them, so they double book". To me, that's pretty lame. Just because John's do it, doesn't justify the SP doing it. They are the business. The John is the customer. As in any other business, if the customer is an asshole, the business should not start treating all its customers like assholes. It's like walmart saying "we're going to begin picking our customer's wallets because some customers shop lift from us." Clearly, that's absurd. What does Walmart do? It increases the price of it's products to cover the cost of shop lifting. SPs should do the same, if they haven't already incorporated this in the price of their service (which I'm sure they have). They should not treat good clients like shit because there are some bad ones.

Wal-mart may increase thier prices for shoplifting , but when a sp does it johns go up in arms complaining.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

Wal-mart may increase thier prices for shoplifting , but when a sp does it johns go up in arms complaining.

You can't help that. Some clients think that anything above "free" they are doing the SP a favour. If i was an SP, I'd be happy to lose that type of customer.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

It's like walmart saying "we're going to begin picking our customer's wallets because some customers shop lift from us." Clearly, that's absurd. What does Walmart do? It increases the price of it's products to cover the cost of shop lifting.

Actually, Walmart screws their employees and suppliers to make up a good part of their operating costs. I get your point but I don't think we want to compare the quality ladies in this business with Walmart!

 

[coolcat]

Wal-mart may increase thier prices for shoplifting , but when a sp does it johns go up in arms complaining.

Let me get this right.When an sp increases their prices the johns arms go up in arms complaining? If this is the case then in my opinion the sp has NOT been upfront with the johns requests. You are paid in full BEFORE the service has been provided. This should never happen. And comparing an sp to Walmart, c'mon......you just disrespected yourself. I am not interested in Walmart quality but I am willing to pay for the services and quality I want.

 

[Casey.xox]

They mean when we increase our price in general, not the surprise fees half way through a session.

 

[Hurricane Hank]

Incalls. Do not book a room that allows smoking. This is your business / working area. If you are too lazy to go outside for your smoke, don't expect me to repeat, and leave stinking of cigarettes, on any other occassion. I won't be back.

 

[lurkerdick]

I opened this thread thinking along the line, "she spreads, he dives in"

 

[fmahovalich]

The problem with some guys is two fold...they are expected to ADHERE to POSTED RATES...

But in return they get a girl WHO WILL NOT ADHERE TO POSTED SERVICES.

THE YMMV thing is a marketing ploy for a LOT OF GIRLS...who never intend to carry out any of the SERVICES with anyone.

Hence the haggling!

 

[Brill]

I'd say all of Casey's points are excellent ones, except the one about not always having time to respond to emails.

A brief "sorry, I'm too busy right now - thank you for your interest" only takes a minute. Even if it's a day later it still shows you're considerate of his request.