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President Biden pardons son Hunter, reversing course after pledging that he wouldn’t

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"Fuck you, Joe Biden, and your sob story about your rich, spoiled, presidential kid, Hunter Biden, and how he's been singled out. Because I know I speak for millions of people who have an addict in their family, who did something they're not proud of, who could never get out from under it. We have no sympathy for you, Hunter Biden, and even less for you, Joe Biden, because you enabled all of it." -
@MegynKelly
 

WyattEarp

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Biden did not stole them. He had documents at home and you know what he did when this was realized?? He returned them immediately.
The timing of Biden returning documents was triggered by the raid on Trump's home.

Interestingly, the classified documents in his possession dated back to his tenure as Vice President. The law gives President's tremendous authority over classified documents. Vice Presidents very little.

As many realize, I'm merely stating facts not opinions on the matter.
 
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WyattEarp

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Biden's son paid back his tax debts ( and Trump's Stormy Daniels convictions were a form of tax fraud) and it's pretty rich for the NRA loving Repugs to get all up in "arms" about a guy who lied on a gun permit and has been clean, dry and drug free for 6 years..........
Apparently, you know a lot about U.S. tax law. I would love for you to explain to us in more detail why Hunter Biden's tax felonies are no big deal. Additionally based on your unique insight, why did the Biden Administration's IRS didn't pursue tax fraud charges against Trump for the Stormy Daniels payments?

From what I understand, Hunter Biden was convicted for filing false tax returns with an attempt to defraud the U.S. government. It wasn't merely a matter of paying his taxes late.

 

Leimonis

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From what I understand, Hunter Biden was convicted for filing false tax returns with an attempt to defraud the U.S. government. It wasn't merely a matter of paying his taxes late.
exact same as Manafort, except Manafort actually served some time before his pardon
 

the general

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Biden did not stole them. He had documents at home and you know what he did when this was realized?? He returned them immediately.
You do know he spoke to his ghost writer about these documents long prior to that, right? So, no he didn't return them until it was authorities investing, so yes he stole them, just try to be a little more rationale in your thinking.
 

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Biden's son paid back his tax debts ( and Trump's Stormy Daniels convictions were a form of tax fraud) and it's pretty rich for the NRA loving Repugs to get all up in "arms" about a guy who lied on a gun permit and has been clean, dry and drug free for 6 years.......... Butler can't let that pass, but Trump's phone call to Georgia asking for the fabrication of 12000 votes was no big deal... long live democracy!
He didn't a rich Democratic donor did. Pretty much the definition of a bribe.
 

squeezer

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Tell all those that were charged, convicted and imprisioned for similar charges. The list is long. I don't think they were President's sons. But you lefties have no morales and your comments show your true colours.
Yet you support a felon, a rapist, a conman , and a fraud not too mention the folks he's choosing for powerful positions have serious skeletons in their closets. Look in the mirrors and check your own morals.
 

the general

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Yet you support a felon, a rapist, a conman , and a fraud not too mention the folks he's choosing for powerful positions have serious skeletons in their closets. Look in the mirrors and check your own morals.
Another attempted deflection, the whataboutism. The discussion is about Biden's pardon, and Hunter's crimes, which he was found guilty or pleady guilty to, which others that were found guilty of were imprisoned. I can't figure out whether you are defending Hunter, Joe or are just an idiot. Maybe all 3.
 

squeezer

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Another attempted deflection, the whataboutism. The discussion is about Biden's pardon, and Hunter's crimes, which he was found guilty or pleady guilty to, which others that were found guilty of were imprisoned. I can't figure out whether you are defending Hunter, Joe or are just an idiot. Maybe all 3.
It is his only remaining son, I wouldn't expect any less of a father. DO YOU BELIEVE Trump would let Don Jr. rot in jail if he murdered someone if he can pardon him? Don't be a hypocrite and take your radical right goggles off.

PS...you support a felon and rapist.
 

Leimonis

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Yet you support a felon, a rapist, a conman , and a fraud not too mention the folks he's choosing for powerful positions have serious skeletons in their closets. Look in the mirrors and check your own morals.
Conservative morals are pretty much religion based hypocrisy.
Dems morals are pretty much bleeding heart virtue signalling.
Either one is good to consume if doctor said you need to vomit.
 
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the general

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It is his only remaining son, I wouldn't expect any less of a father. DO YOU BELIEVE Trump would let Don Jr. rot in jail if he murdered someone if he can pardon him? Don't be a hypocrite and take your radical right goggles off.

PS...you support a felon and rapist.
I think if he murdered someone, Trump would say you need to do the time. Now on someless less severe, I would agree. Hunter did no time, certainly hasn't shown any remorse. And just because you have a bleeding heart, doesn't mean you should go against your principals. And btw, Trump isn't a felon until sentenced and wasn't convicted of rape, but lost a civil suit related to sexual assault. Same type of sexual assault Biden was accused of by Tara Reade, and in Hunter's case, the amount of sexual offenses he committed would likel fill a wheelbarrel. But let's not get facts in your way, you Libs never have, never will. Make up your own set. Next you are going to tell me Jan 6th was an insurrection, whereas no one has been charged with any such crime.
 

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Nothing Biden does in office is positive. Just as he's about to leave, he escalates a war in Russia and protects a crackhead from justice.
 

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exact same as Manafort, except Manafort actually served some time before his pardon
I personally have no problem with the Hunter pardon. Pardons are an unfortunate aspect of our Constitution that reeks of unmerited privilege, but they exist and they are granted.

However, I noticed earlier you framed this around the idea that the public overlooks Trump's transgressions so why should Biden be more virtuous. I actually was thinking Biden was going to pardon his son win or lose. So I don't think Biden was ever aspiring to any higher standard on this matter. Probably on the advice of his staff, Biden just said what he had to say when he was running for President.

I'm not sure why he bothered to say anything at all on the matter. The stupidity of political advisors of all stripes ceases to amaze me.

Perhaps the one surprising thing is the breadth and blanket nature of the pardon. Before Garland was pressured to create a Special Counsel, you do know the prosecutor let the clock run out on the years with likely the most incriminating activities.

The more we accept that arrogance and graft is fairly pervasive amongst politicians the more intelligent our discussions.
 

WyattEarp

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Nothing Biden does in office is positive. Just as he's about to leave, he escalates a war in Russia.........
We all know someone else is steering the ship and it's scary as hell.
 

squeezer

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I think if he murdered someone, Trump would say you need to do the time. Now on someless less severe, I would agree. Hunter did no time, certainly hasn't shown any remorse. And just because you have a bleeding heart, doesn't mean you should go against your principals. And btw, Trump isn't a felon until sentenced and wasn't convicted of rape, but lost a civil suit related to sexual assault. Same type of sexual assault Biden was accused of by Tara Reade, and in Hunter's case, the amount of sexual offenses he committed would likel fill a wheelbarrel. But let's not get facts in your way, you Libs never have, never will. Make up your own set. Next you are going to tell me Jan 6th was an insurrection, whereas no one has been charged with any such crime.
Accusation and being found guilty of sexual assault civilly which the Judge says it is correct to say it was rape isn't the same thing. I am far from a bleeding heart but I am a realist and any father in Joe's position, especially after losing one son would do exactly the same thing. Also Trump was found guilty of all 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records. Facts matter!
 

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I personally have no problem with the Hunter pardon. Pardons are an unfortunate aspect of our Constitution that reeks of privilege, but they exist and they are granted.

However, I noticed earlier you framed this around the idea that the public overlooks Trump's transgressions so why should Biden be more virtuous. I actually was thinking Biden was going to pardon his son win or lose. So I don't think Biden was ever aspiring to any higher standard on this matter. Probably on the advice of his staff, Biden just said what he had to say when he was running for President.

I'm not sure why he bothered to say anything at all on the matter. The stupidity of political advisors of all stripes ceases to amaze me.

Perhaps the one surprising thing is the breadth and blanket nature of the pardon. Before Garland was pressured to create a Special Counsel, you do know the prosecutor let the clock run out on the years with likely the most incriminating activities.

The more we accept that arrogance and graft is fairly pervasive amongst politicians the more intelligent our discussions.
You are for the most part a reasonable person. Trumps charges were totally justified while hunters were a ridiculous overreach. Most red states don't even have a penalty for lying on gun applications. The Donald himself appluad tax cheats and pardoned fellow fraud kushner. If Joe didn't pardon hunter that would be a travesty. He is one of the first people charged for soley said crimes while many people have been charged with donnies many crimes
 
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