Conservative morals are pretty much religion based hypocrisy.
Dems morals are pretty much bleeding heart virtue signalling.
Either one is good to consume if doctor said you need to vomit.
President Biden pardons son Hunter, reversing course after pledging that he wouldn’t
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Dems morals are pretty much bleeding heart virtue signalling.
Either one is good to consume if doctor said you need to vomit.
I think if he murdered someone, Trump would say you need to do the time. Now on someless less severe, I would agree. Hunter did no time, certainly hasn't shown any remorse. And just because you have a bleeding heart, doesn't mean you should go against your principals. And btw, Trump isn't a felon until sentenced and wasn't convicted of rape, but lost a civil suit related to sexual assault. Same type of sexual assault Biden was accused of by Tara Reade, and in Hunter's case, the amount of sexual offenses he committed would likel fill a wheelbarrel. But let's not get facts in your way, you Libs never have, never will. Make up your own set. Next you are going to tell me Jan 6th was an insurrection, whereas no one has been charged with any such crime.
I personally have no problem with the Hunter pardon. Pardons are an unfortunate aspect of our Constitution that reeks of unmerited privilege, but they exist and they are granted.
However, I noticed earlier you framed this around the idea that the public overlooks Trump's transgressions so why should Biden be more virtuous. I actually was thinking Biden was going to pardon his son win or lose. So I don't think Biden was ever aspiring to any higher standard on this matter. Probably on the advice of his staff, Biden just said what he had to say when he was running for President.
I'm not sure why he bothered to say anything at all on the matter. The stupidity of political advisors of all stripes ceases to amaze me.
Perhaps the one surprising thing is the breadth and blanket nature of the pardon. Before Garland was pressured to create a Special Counsel, you do know the prosecutor let the clock run out on the years with likely the most incriminating activities.
The more we accept that arrogance and graft is fairly pervasive amongst politicians the more intelligent our discussions.
Accusation and being found guilty of sexual assault civilly which the Judge says it is correct to say it was rape isn't the same thing. I am far from a bleeding heart but I am a realist and any father in Joe's position, especially after losing one son would do exactly the same thing. Also Trump was found guilty of all 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records. Facts matter!
You are for the most part a reasonable person. Trumps charges were totally justified while hunters were a ridiculous overreach. Most red states don't even have a penalty for lying on gun applications. The Donald himself appluad tax cheats and pardoned fellow fraud kushner. If Joe didn't pardon hunter that would be a travesty. He is one of the first people charged for soley said crimes while many people have been charged with donnies many crimes
I will grant you the gun charges are typically not prosecuted as felonies. However, you probably should read more about the specificities of what Hunter was actually doing in regards to tax evasion. Leimonis not exactly a Trumper pointed out the similarity with Manafort's tax charges. This wasn't just about not filing on time or not paying his taxes.
I think it's a common misconception that if you cheat on your taxes and are caught, you simply pay your taxes plus a fine and everyone moves on. There are plenty of public examples of egregious tax evasion that lead to charges and sometimes prison. I'm not convinced Hunter Biden was unfairly targeted for political purposes. If anything, as a prominent politician's son he was initially given extended leniency that was attacked by Republicans.
The problem in the U.S. (as is probably the case in Canada as well) is selective prosecution. We have all become jaded and expect certain members of society to be granted certain privileges under the law.
Hunter eventually paid his taxes tho Donnie never did. Hie do you justify Trump being a tax cheat paying $750 in income tax and bring convicted of 34 felonies yet you think somehow Hunter is worse when he paid his dues albeit late ?
First, I don't think the felonies will be upheld or will they lead to anything more than a fine and probably probation. Lastly, I'm not versed as well as you on Trump's taxes.
I'm fine with the Hunter pardon, but you seem to want some type of absolution. I think some of you are wrestling with this idea that the President's son could have committed a crime. Thus, you are always intent on re-litigating the Trump cases over and over again here.
The election is over. Trying to reintroduce Trump's legal cases at this point is a bit like necrophilia. The cases are dead.
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I see you have removed the words felon and rapist, which conveniently now makes you a truth saying? I never said he wasn't found guilty by a jury, just you used inflammatory inaccurate terminology, for effect I assume. And I am not surprised Joe pardoned Hunter, but that doesn't make it right. Btw, not even sure what you are trying to say in your first sentence, but no it is not correct to use the term rape, and don't believe the judge said it was. But I guess facts on matter when convenient to you, you like to use provocative language, even when it is blatantly inaccurate.
Trump wasn't accused of tax fraud, just that he paid a small amount of tax, but legitimately. Business owners have many tax incentives that reduce taxes as a way to get reinvestment that will help the economy. There obviously are good tax accountants that can maximum these deductions, but so long as within the tax system, not sure why it bothers people about an individual, you should complain about the tax system. But with the amount of TDS around, people look for things to get angry at Trump.
Trump now says that hunters pardon should apply to him https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/politics/trump-hush-money-hunter-biden-pardon/index.html
Could this get more ridiculous?
Could this get more ridiculous?
And this is where normally the IRS would audit the company and they would review the business deductions and the IRS would determine whether the deductions are bona fide or not. Pretty standard shit, and IRS would rule, and the business can dispute. It would not typically get to a criminal manner, unless of course you were targeting someone. Of all the cases, the NY fraud case was without real merit. You could argue the Jan 6 and the classified documents had merit, and it would be a good discussion, the NY fraud was and is a joke. It will eventually get overturned, so at that point, you won't even be able to try and say tax fraud. And may get dismissed soon, although Merchan is standing pretty steadfast so far. The overturn will happen at the appeals level at some time.
He didn't pay them. A rich donor did. Might as well call it a bribe to dad.
So what's that come to ? One lie for every 100 lies told by Trump?
They weren't bogus and neither were the Georgia election fraud phone call charges or the stolen top secret documents in the Mara Lago bathroom, or the inciting of the riots on Jan 6 to support his attempt at blocking the peaceful transfer of power after lying about the dems trying to steal the election. All serious threats to democracy yet he was allowed to run and have his charges dropped. Meanwhile Hunter paid back his tax debts and has been clean and sober for 6 years so let's crucify him for being Joe's son!
Immediately? You do know he discussed the classified documents with his ghostwriter long before he returned the documents. So not immediately when he became aware, only after he was caught. And unlike the president that has extraordinary authority, Biden never had such authority to possess those documents.
