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Poll: Who gets your vote

If a federal election were held tomorrow who would get your vote

  • Pierre Pollievre's Conservative Party

    Votes: 41 67.2%
  • Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Jagmeet Singh's New Democratic Party

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Elizabeth May's Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maxime Bernier's People's Party

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

bver_hunter

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50% of Toronto don't own cars.
Typically we only have one month total of snow on the roads and you could bike through that if you wanted.

Skoob will claim that Oulu is a very "discriminatory" city, for spending that much for very safe bike lanes including the expensive ploughing of the snow on these lanes. ROTFLMAO!!
 
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Skoob

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Who stated that Netherlands gets more snow than Canada? But they can at times get a significant amount of snow in their winters.
Does Toronto get the same amounts of snow as Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Saskatoon, Montreal or the East Coast? We are talking about Toronto itself where our snowfall amounts are no where as high as those other cities. Amsterdam gets less snow than us, but in their winter months the rain along with the windy conditions are much higher than in Toronto. Not easy to ride a bike in Amsterdam under those conditions!!

But you are hilarious when you consider bike lanes to be "discriminatory"............ROTFLMAO!!
Exactly. Amsterdam doesn't get nearly as much snow as Toronto which means people can use the bike lanes more there. So comparing the two places is not a fair comparison. That was the point you clearly missed.
 

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Pierre Poilievre Gets Absolutely Clowned Over His Fake "Working-Class Hero" Persona


 
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Skoob

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50% of Toronto don't own cars.
Typically we only have one month total of snow on the roads and you could bike through that if you wanted.

Yeah that single person riding their bike in the winter is accurate.
Do you think all the traffic congestion caused by bike lanes that creates a ton of pollution by idling cars is worth it?
Sounds like you do.
 

Frankfooter

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Yeah that single person riding their bike in the winter is accurate.
Do you think all the traffic congestion caused by bike lanes that creates a ton of pollution by idling cars is worth it?
Sounds like you do.
Traffic congestion is caused by cars and trucks, not bikes.
Bikes take up way less space.

50% of Toronto doesn't own a car.
Why punish them to support your suburban life?
 
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Skoob

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Traffic congestion is caused by cars and trucks, not bikes.
Bikes take up way less space.

50% of Toronto doesn't own a car.
Why punish them to support your suburban life?
Taking away lanes used by vehicles causes traffic congestion...you know why? Because vehicles like cars and trucks actually exist.
It's not only Torontonians that drive in Toronto despite what your brainwashed mind is telling you.

Ever wonder how your goods like food arrive to Toronto?
Here's a hint: not by bicycle.
 

Skoob

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Donald Pee PEE Trump Jr. Wannabe

Pierre Poilievre Gets Absolutely Clowned Over His Fake "Working-Class Hero" Persona
Wait! I thought you lefties were comparing DoFo to Trump? Was that only leading up to his election wins?
Now you're saying Poilievre is like Trump?

hmmmm....I get it...any politician you don't like is somehow compared to Trump.

You need new tactics...this one doesn't work. Just sayin'
 
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Frankfooter

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Taking away lanes used by vehicles causes traffic congestion...you know why? Because vehicles like cars and trucks actually exist.
It's not only Torontonians that drive in Toronto despite what your brainwashed mind is telling you.

Ever wonder how your goods like food arrive to Toronto?
Here's a hint: not by bicycle.
You don't live downtown, how would you know what difference it makes?
 

Frankfooter

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You mean because someone doesn't live downtown, they never travel there for work, entertainment, visiting friends, etc?
That's your argument?
OMFG
Clearly you don't or you'd understand what's causing congestion, and its not bikes.
Your ignorance is on clear view.
 

roddermac

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Taking away lanes used by vehicles causes traffic congestion...you know why? Because vehicles like cars and trucks actually exist.
It's not only Torontonians that drive in Toronto despite what your brainwashed mind is telling you.

Ever wonder how your goods like food arrive to Toronto?
Here's a hint: not by bicycle.
It also causes more pollution with cars and truck idling more in traffic than a smooth drive. One other note that emergency vehicles are already being delayed to get to their destination and the bike lanes only make the wait times longer.
 

roddermac

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Exactly. Amsterdam doesn't get nearly as much snow as Toronto which means people can use the bike lanes more there. So comparing the two places is not a fair comparison. That was the point you clearly missed.
Amsterdam also has more density than Toronto and a way better public transportation system.
 

Skoob

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Clearly you don't or you'd understand what's causing congestion, and its not bikes.
Your ignorance is on clear view.
Like I said, it's bike lanes.
You can try and twist words all you want, it only makes you look foolish tap dancing around your ignorance.
 

Frankfooter

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Like I said, it's bike lanes.
You can try and twist words all you want, it only makes you look foolish tap dancing around your ignorance.
That's why the 401, QEW and Gardiner are always congested now, skoob?
 

Skoob

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That's why the 401, QEW and Gardiner are always congested now, skoob?
Where do you think those vehicles are trying to get to?
Answer: the city
Now get rid of lanes and replace them with bike lanes once they get there. Do you think that improves traffic or makes it worse?

You do realize that simply removing lanes doesn't reduce the number of vehicles that were using them right?
You do realize that cars & trucks actually exist right?
 
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What other scandal hit $8 billion?
If this scandal was $8 billion (which it wasn't) there would be criminal charges out the wazoo. So where are they?
 

Frankfooter

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Where do you think those vehicles are trying to get to?
Answer: the city
Now get rid of lanes and replace them with bike lanes once they get there. Do you think that improves traffic or makes it worse?

You do realize that simply removing lanes doesn't reduce the number of vehicles that were using them right?
You do realize that cars & trucks actually exist right?
You think getting rid of bike lanes will make traffic better on the 401?
You are special.

50% of Toronto doesn't own cars, if you make them need cars instead of bikes to get around do you think that will increase or decrease congestion?
Why won't you allow them to choose how the get around and why do you think people who bought a place an hour's drive away should choose?

 
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Skoob

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You think getting rid of bike lanes will make traffic better on the 401?
You are special.

50% of Toronto doesn't own cars, if you make them need cars instead of bikes to get around do you think that will increase or decrease congestion?
Why won't you allow them to choose how the get around and why do you think people who bought a place an hour's drive away should choose?

Actually, I believe more lanes on the 401 are also needed in addition to removing bike lanes to help traffic.
More highways are needed as well.

Who says people in Toronto who don't own cars will be made to need cars? That's you twisting things again when you have no argument.

Why should people be forced to live in a congested city rather then being able to live in a house with some property where they don't always have to smell other people's cooking and put up with AirBnB party units in a building?
 
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