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Poll: Who gets your vote

If a federal election were held tomorrow who would get your vote

  • Pierre Pollievre's Conservative Party

    Votes: 41 67.2%
  • Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Jagmeet Singh's New Democratic Party

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Elizabeth May's Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maxime Bernier's People's Party

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

bver_hunter

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Aside from the fact that the Liberals were in power federally for 13 years between 1993-2006, there was plenty of time and opportunity to change the decision made in 1987 if they wanted to. But I digress.

However, I would tend to agree with her point:
“The other thing we need to look at is what the housing prices are in rural and remote communities versus urban areas and how we can encourage people to move around. We learned during the pandemic that everybody doesn't have to live in downtown Toronto,” she said.

Too many decisions are made based on the needs of downtown Toronto and not the rest of the province. Not everyone can ride a scooter to work and believe it or not, there are indeed automobiles still using roads. Crazy right?
Obviously, if you travel across the pond, there you will see an intensive transport system in cities like Paris and London. You barely need a car to travel around and even in remote areas they are well connected by underground lines and rails and trams. Canada over the decades had that ability to have a more extensive transport system. But recently, all we are seeing are attempts to add more highways rather than a public transport system. Yes, urban areas around the Globe will always have higher prices than rural areas. A common occurrence!!
 

K Douglas

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Jan 5, 2005
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Room 112
Marit Stiles has a good chance in Ontario.
DoFo is the worst PM in Ontario's history.

An ndp/lib minority is always the best choice.
No fan of Ford but Kathleen Wynne and Bob Rae were infinitely worse than him.
 

Skoob

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Jun 1, 2022
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57% support the libs, ndp and greens in Ontario.
I am the majority representative here.
Winning two consecutive majorities puts you in the minority.

btw the Libs and NDP can't agree on lunch. The Greens don't even know where lunch is being served.
 

Skoob

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Obviously, if you travel across the pond, there you will see an intensive transport system in cities like Paris and London. You barely need a car to travel around and even in remote areas they are well connected by underground lines and rails and trams. Canada over the decades had that ability to have a more extensive transport system. But recently, all we are seeing are attempts to add more highways rather than a public transport system. Yes, urban areas around the Globe will always have higher prices than rural areas. A common occurrence!!
You can't simply compare one country to another without taking other factors into consideration.
Like climate, land area, density, municipal evolution, etc.

Our municipal governments take too many junkets to quaint European towns on our dime and think the same applies to our cities and ignore many other factors and then plow ahead with things that don't work.

Our municipal councils believe cars don't exist and then double-down on that belief to make bad decisions.
 

Skoob

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The greenbelt alone is the biggest money scandal in Canadian political history.
Really? How much money changed hands in that one?
I'll save you the trouble of looking that up: $0

Was it more than the ArriveCan app? How about the gas plants? McKinsey consultants?
 

Skoob

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No problem, PeePee will just pick the most unpopular positions possible.
Pivoting to Poilievre when I just blew up your argument about DoFo?

You are in the minority. By your measure that makes you wrong.

Say that over and over to yourself so that when I call you out on your hypocrisy (again) it may ring a bell for you.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
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Really? How much money changed hands in that one?
I'll save you the trouble of looking that up: $0

Was it more than the ArriveCan app? How about the gas plants? McKinsey consultants?
Has the RCMP declared their investigation over?
How much money was involved in the DoFo weddings?
Can you declare that DoFo or the cons didn't get money under the table?
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
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Pivoting to Poilievre when I just blew up your argument about DoFo?

You are in the minority. By your measure that makes you wrong.

Say that over and over to yourself so that when I call you out on your hypocrisy (again) it may ring a bell for you.
We've been over this, the cons are a smaller group federally and provincially than the left wing parties.
Why do you always try to declare arguments you just lost as 'off topic'?
 

Skoob

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Has the RCMP declared their investigation over?
How much money was involved in the DoFo weddings?
Can you declare that DoFo or the cons didn't get money under the table?
But but but...you have already declared it an $8 billion scandal?
Now you're back-peddling that the investigation isn't over and are suggesting some kind of conspiracy theory?

I'll save you the trouble: Your "biggest scandal in history" involves $0.

Want to tally up the Liberal scandals?

I didn't think so.
 

Skoob

Well-known member
Jun 1, 2022
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We've been over this, the cons are a smaller group federally and provincially than the left wing parties.
Why do you always try to declare arguments you just lost as 'off topic'?
Why do you go off topic when you fall on your face? Especially in this case when you bring up DoFo then pivot to PP and then accuse me of going off-topic?

Say it to yourself...2 back to back majorities...makes you the minority...makes you wrong by your measure.
 

Frankfooter

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But but but...you have already declared it an $8 billion scandal?
Now you're back-peddling that the investigation isn't over and are suggesting some kind of conspiracy theory?

I'll save you the trouble: Your "biggest scandal in history" involves $0.

Want to tally up the Liberal scandals?

I didn't think so.
I'm not backpedaling, skoobypoo.
The greenbelt scandal involved $8 billion in profit for rezoning land and was only stopped by independent journalism.
It was stopped before the profit was made, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a scandal.

If you want to compare DoFo scandals with the provincial libs, go for it.
 
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Frankfooter

dangling member
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Why do you go off topic when you fall on your face? Especially in this case when you bring up DoFo then pivot to PP and then accuse me of going off-topic?

Say it to yourself...2 back to back majorities...makes you the minority...makes you wrong by your measure.
Where have I 'fallen on my face', skoobypoo?
You keep getting embarrassed on every subject.
 

bver_hunter

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2005
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You can't simply compare one country to another without taking other factors into consideration.
Like climate, land area, density, municipal evolution, etc.

Our municipal governments take too many junkets to quaint European towns on our dime and think the same applies to our cities and ignore many other factors and then plow ahead with things that don't work.

Our municipal councils believe cars don't exist and then double-down on that belief to make bad decisions.
What are you waffling about?? Since when did our municipalities state that cars do not exist? Why are they constantly building new roads then?

So Municipalities that build Libraries, invest in Parks, Schools, roads, bridges, infrastructure including picking your curb side garbage, repairing potholes, plowing the snow etc are making "bad decisions"? Okay, I see your logic!!
 
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