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Poll: Who gets your vote

If a federal election were held tomorrow who would get your vote

  • Pierre Pollievre's Conservative Party

    Votes: 41 67.2%
  • Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Jagmeet Singh's New Democratic Party

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Elizabeth May's Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maxime Bernier's People's Party

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

Frankfooter

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Like I said, it's bike lanes.
You can try and twist words all you want, it only makes you look foolish tap dancing around your ignorance.
That's why the 401, QEW and Gardiner are always congested now, skoob?
 

Skoob

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That's why the 401, QEW and Gardiner are always congested now, skoob?
Where do you think those vehicles are trying to get to?
Answer: the city
Now get rid of lanes and replace them with bike lanes once they get there. Do you think that improves traffic or makes it worse?

You do realize that simply removing lanes doesn't reduce the number of vehicles that were using them right?
You do realize that cars & trucks actually exist right?
 
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Skoob

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But skoob is totally against higher density development, they only want suburban housing everywhere.
Amsterdam has a lower population density than Toronto and it's warmer.
 

K Douglas

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Room 112
What other scandal hit $8 billion?
If this scandal was $8 billion (which it wasn't) there would be criminal charges out the wazoo. So where are they?
 

Frankfooter

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Where do you think those vehicles are trying to get to?
Answer: the city
Now get rid of lanes and replace them with bike lanes once they get there. Do you think that improves traffic or makes it worse?

You do realize that simply removing lanes doesn't reduce the number of vehicles that were using them right?
You do realize that cars & trucks actually exist right?
You think getting rid of bike lanes will make traffic better on the 401?
You are special.

50% of Toronto doesn't own cars, if you make them need cars instead of bikes to get around do you think that will increase or decrease congestion?
Why won't you allow them to choose how the get around and why do you think people who bought a place an hour's drive away should choose?

 
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Skoob

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You think getting rid of bike lanes will make traffic better on the 401?
You are special.

50% of Toronto doesn't own cars, if you make them need cars instead of bikes to get around do you think that will increase or decrease congestion?
Why won't you allow them to choose how the get around and why do you think people who bought a place an hour's drive away should choose?

Actually, I believe more lanes on the 401 are also needed in addition to removing bike lanes to help traffic.
More highways are needed as well.

Who says people in Toronto who don't own cars will be made to need cars? That's you twisting things again when you have no argument.

Why should people be forced to live in a congested city rather then being able to live in a house with some property where they don't always have to smell other people's cooking and put up with AirBnB party units in a building?
 

Frankfooter

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Actually, I believe more lanes on the 401 are also needed in addition to removing bike lanes to help traffic.
More highways are needed as well.

Who says people in Toronto who don't own cars will be made to need cars? That's you twisting things again when you have no argument.

Why should people be forced to live in a congested city rather then being able to live in a house with some property where they don't always have to smell other people's cooking and put up with AirBnB party units in a building?
1) The NDP proposed paying for trucks to use the 407, that would do more for congestion on the 401 than building highways in the country.
2) If you can't bike and the province lets the TTC crumble, how else will people get around?
3) Enjoy your live in suburbia but STFU about telling people who live in the city what they should think, you are clearly clueless about city life.
 

Skoob

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1) The NDP proposed paying for trucks to use the 407, that would do more for congestion on the 401 than building highways in the country.
2) If you can't bike and the province lets the TTC crumble, how else will people get around?
3) Enjoy your live in suburbia but STFU about telling people who live in the city what they should think, you are clearly clueless about city life.
The NDP love spending other people's money...that's why they will never lead anything other than banning their own members for supporting Palestine.
15 years of Liberal rule in the province did nothing for public transit...your blame is misplaced.

City life breeds people like you who think nothing else exists outside of downtown while you hunker into your shoebox in the sky and trip over homeless people in the streets.
 
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squeezer

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Wait! I thought you lefties were comparing DoFo to Trump? Was that only leading up to his election wins?
Now you're saying Poilievre is like Trump?

hmmmm....I get it...any politician you don't like is somehow compared to Trump.

You need new tactics...this one doesn't work. Just sayin'
Find one of my posts that I have ever compared Dougy to Trump. I happen to not mind Doug. He's grown on me when he bitch slapped the Freedum twats with the Yahoo label.

Pee Pee is baby Trump. A lying POS that has a face that wants to be punched. Justin at least had many years before normal folks turned on him, PEE PEE, within two years of PM would have the folks with common sense cursing the day they voted for the POS yellow stain. Now you have my prediction. Save it so you don't have to make shit up.
 

Frankfooter

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The NDP love spending other people's money...that's why they will never lead anything other than banning their own members for supporting Palestine.
15 years of Liberal rule in the province did nothing for public transit...your blame is misplaced.

City life breeds people like you who think nothing else exists outside of downtown while you hunker into your shoebox in the sky and trip over homeless people in the streets.
Sure, you always complain about politicians spending money recklessly regardless of party, right?
 

Skoob

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TomFord1980

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1) The NDP proposed paying for trucks to use the 407, that would do more for congestion on the 401 than building highways in the country.
2) If you can't bike and the province lets the TTC crumble, how else will people get around?
3) Enjoy your live in suburbia but STFU about telling people who live in the city what they should think, you are clearly clueless about city life.
Those who live in the city are nuts. You drove me out 10 years ago, happily in north york now.
 

bver_hunter

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Exactly. Amsterdam doesn't get nearly as much snow as Toronto which means people can use the bike lanes more there. So comparing the two places is not a fair comparison. That was the point you clearly missed.
See when you are pushed into the corner how you try to wiggle your way out. The fact is that the bike lanes and the manner in which they are ploughed are designed to make it safe for the cyclists during a snow storm. Do you think that it is worth risking it in places like Toronto where the bike lanes are at most times have snow dumped in heaps?
 
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bver_hunter

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Amsterdam has a lower population density than Toronto and it's warmer.
Listen, Amsterdam is slightly more than 1/3 of Toronto area wise. But the population density is only marginally smaller than Toronto!!
The fact is that Amsterdam has proper bike lanes that are well maintained during winter, unlike that of Toronto!!
 
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bver_hunter

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Actually, I believe more lanes on the 401 are also needed in addition to removing bike lanes to help traffic.
More highways are needed as well.
How are you going to add anymore lanes to the 401, when we already have approximately 6 and sometimes 7 lanes? That is not going to ease the traffic congestion. In Europe they have more disciplined driving than we do in Canada, that speeds up the traffic in less lanes. You do not pass on the blind spot lanes. Once cars pass then they pull over into the slower lanes and that moves the traffic more smoothly on their highways. But we have a 407ETR that is underused in all respects thanks to the screw up by The Provincial Mike Harris Conservatives. The province could have still owned it and charged a reasonable fee like they do in the USA and several other countries around the Globe.

Why should people be forced to live in a congested city rather then being able to live in a house with some property where they don't always have to smell other people's cooking and put up with AirBnB party units in a building?
Then they should move out of the city and travel by Public Transport. We have a pretty poor public transport infrastructure as compared to the UK, France and other EU Nations. But Dougie Boy wants to waste more cash on totally irrelevant Highways, that are causing a stir among residents in that vicinity!!
 

Frankfooter

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How are you going to add anymore lanes to the 401, when we already have approximately 6 and sometimes 7 lanes? That is not going to ease the traffic congestion. In Europe they have more disciplined driving than we do in Canada, that speeds up the traffic in less lanes. You do not pass on the blind spot lanes. Once cars pass then they pull over into the slower lanes and that moves the traffic more smoothly on their highways. But we have a 407ETR that is underused in all respects thanks to the screw up by The Provincial Mike Harris Conservatives. The province could have still owned it and charged a reasonable fee like they do in the USA and several other countries around the Globe.



Then they should move out of the city and travel by Public Transport. We have a pretty poor public transport infrastructure as compared to the UK, France and other EU Nations. But Dougie Boy wants to waste more cash on totally irrelevant Highways, that are causing a stir among residents in that vicinity!!
The 401 is the busiest highway in all of North America.
The NDP proposal to pay fees for trucks to take the 407 and bypass the city would be the smartest move to fix the biggest congestion problem in North America without building a single highway and for way, way less.

But the right wingers won't back it because the idea came from the NDP.
 
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Skoob

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See when you are pushed into the corner how you try to wiggle your way out. The fact is that the bike lanes and the manner in which they are ploughed are designed to make it safe for the cyclists during a snow storm. Do you think that it is worth risking it in places like Toronto where the bike lanes are at most times have snow dumped in heaps?
So what you're saying is that bike lanes in Toronto during the winter are useless?
Thanks for agreeing with me on that.
 

Skoob

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Listen, Amsterdam is slightly more than 1/3 of Toronto area wise. But the population density is only marginally smaller than Toronto!!
The fact is that Amsterdam has proper bike lanes that are well maintained during winter, unlike that of Toronto!!
Amsterdam is half the size of Toronto in terms of land area. So you're wrong there.
Amsterdam has 20% more population density than Toronto so you're wrong there again.

Bike lanes work in Amsterdam for various reasons.
Bike lanes don't work in Toronto for various reasons.

Are you following along here? Too complicated?
 

Frankfooter

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So what you're saying is that bike lanes in Toronto during the winter are useless?
Thanks for agreeing with me on that.
You really shouldn't talk about things you have no knowledge of, it just makes you look dim.
 
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