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Police brutality alleged in Barrie

danmand

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I am always on the side of justice, when all the facts come out and the cop is guilty he should be convicted.
Reverse is also true, when all the facts come out and the kid is guilty he too should be convicted
You may be on principle, but you are surely eager to give the benefit of doubt to the policeman. I think what the other guy posted above is accurate: you're hoping for new information that will allow you to swing towards the officers defense "

We know that the kid was skateboarding, and likely did some infraction, that the police officer took exception to. So far so good.

If he was not dealing drugs or had just run from a violent assault, few people would say, that he deserved to be handcuffed, and violently accosted when he refused. And mouthing off to a police officer is not reason for beating him up.

I repeat: we are not safer or being served because this police officer walks around with a hand gun and a taser.
 

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You may be on principle, but you are surely eager to give the benefit of doubt to the policeman. I think what the other guy posted above is accurate: you're hoping for new information that will allow you to swing towards the officers defense "

We know that the kid was skateboarding, and likely did some infraction, that the police officer took exception to. So far so good.

If he was not dealing drugs or had just run from a violent assault, few people would say, that he deserved to be handcuffed, and violently accosted when he refused. And mouthing off to a police officer is not reason for beating him up.

I repeat: we are not safer or being served because this police officer walks around with a hand gun and a taser.
...or he could have just given the kid a warning for going thru a red light on his skateboard...
 
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Viewed the woman's video elsewhere and from that perspective the cop hit the dude in the head with his taser which seems questionable, then after getting help he slammed the dude's head into the ground by the curb. That action of slamming the dude's head down was completely unnecessary after he already had assistance from another officer. The throwing of the dude's crap into the trunk in this video was done in anger. It appears the dude 100% deserved to be arrested for going though red lights on more than once occasion and ignoring police, which may have created a traffic danger. The latter stages of the arrest should be reviewed by the authorities IMHO
 

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As I said before, nobody can draw any type of definite conclusion either way without a video of the whole incident.
But, you said in a previous post that you agree with the poster who said (without proof) that the vast majority of Canadians disapprove of the police.

"I think the vast majority of us do respect the police and don't unnecessarily provoke them."

"The vast majority of Canadians have very different opinions than you do."
"And that should come as no surprise." per Shack
 

basketcase

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I would like to see what the terb hard asses have to say about this. :unsure:
If this is the case then the cop definitely should be disciplined. Kid blows off steam after a ticket and the cop gets all macho.


And being in my 40's I have no problem referring to a 20 year old as a kid.
 
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basketcase

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....,,, case closed?

LJ
Yes. Unless mouthing off at a cop is considered an attack, the cop has little defense.

p.s. they get paid to uphold community standards, not to react because some dickhead says something. Could you imagine a world where teachers or employers were allowed to beat people for swearing?
 

basketcase

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You made the association between monetary income and what a cop should be able to tolerate.
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I'll make the connection between the job he is employed for and his ability not to snap when called a name.

Your posts make you seem like a retired cop who feels the need to defend cops despite a career of seeing some who don't deserve to be employed.
 

enricotheman

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Lots of 20 year olds are "real" convicts. Try to physically control a decent sized 20 year old... I bet you can't.
That's true.. but looking at this particular situation and this kid it's obvious the force was excessive and the cop was taking his anger out on him.. tough to judge the necessity of his actions without getting the full picture and story from the beginning but it's not everyday you see this.. a cop slamming a kids head to the ground..sadly younger people including teens don't have the maturity when reacting to situations like this eg. getting a ticket
 

Richard.TO

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Totally justified, goof was resisting arrest. That was a "Love Tap" to get his attention.

Dumb fuck'n bitch was shouting "Excessive Force" before the love tap, what a "Snow Flake" , LOL!

When a cop says you are under arrest, you comply with his instructions!, even if you are truly innocent of any infraction, everything will get straightened out.
It was not totally justified. The kid was totally harmless and pinned to the ground. Why did the officer need to smash him in the head? All he did was skateboard through a red light. The officer should be put on leave without pay until it is fully investigated. It was absolutely unnecessary to apply such force in this situation.
 
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shack

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But, you said in a previous post that you agree with the poster who said (without proof) that the vast majority of Canadians disapprove of the police.

"I think the vast majority of us do respect the police and don't unnecessarily provoke them."

"The vast majority of Canadians have very different opinions than you do."
"And that should come as no surprise." per Shack
Try getting the quote right.

The vast majority of Canadians have very different opinions than you do (meaning you, darts).
It was a general statement by C about your opinions (meaning multiple opinions, not one in particular) and neither he nor I mentioned the police. And regarding this particular incident I voiced no opinion. I said a couple of times that the complete video is needed to make an informed decision.

Charlemagne is not a "usual suspect".
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You may be on principle, but you are surely eager to give the benefit of doubt to the policeman. I think what the other guy posted above is accurate: you're hoping for new information that will allow you to swing towards the officers defense "
How do you know what I'm thinking, danny boy??

You are completely wrong btw, if no evidence surfaces that the kid was in the wrong then I hope they throw the book at the cop

We know that the kid was skateboarding, and likely did some infraction, that the police officer took exception to. So far so good.

If he was not dealing drugs or had just run from a violent assault, few people would say, that he deserved to be handcuffed, and violently accosted when he refused. And mouthing off to a police officer is not reason for beating him up.

I repeat: we are not safer or being served because this police officer walks around with a hand gun and a taser
And I would argue you have already taken the side of the kid.
Your post seems to indicate that
 

richaceg

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You are right, you have missed the earlier incident, where the kid got a ticket for skateboarding. Took it, then continued skateboarding. The cop lost his shit and went after him. THAT is an issue. THat means the COP instigated the situation, NOT the kid.

This cop deserves to be fired. Disgraceful display of policing.
You post this like you witnessed this first hand...you didn't...
 

lessjamie7

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I'll make the connection between the job he is employed for and his ability not to snap when called a name.

Your posts make you seem like a retired cop who feels the need to defend cops despite a career of seeing some who don't deserve to be employed.
That's excellent you seem to have the right idea that money does not factor into the equation, that's the point I was making.

Thank you.

LJ
 
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