Ozempic Expert: They’re Lying To You About The Side Effects!

[mitchell76]

Yes, to a degree. But weight loss and management is quite a complex metabolic process.

Like mental health, obesity is a serious and growing issue facing our health care system. If there are medications that can help, it's less expensive and better for everyone than taking the hard-ass approach. Some of us can eat deep fried fish and chips and not get fat. Some can't eat tuna sandwiches and celery without not being able to lose or keep weight off long term.

This is proven medical science.

Otherwise, matabolic modifying drugs like the semiglutides would not work.

It all depends on what your bloodwork results are. If you have type 2 diabetes or an inactive thyroid, you can exercise 5 hrs a day, and watch what you eat, and still never lose weight. At least that's what my family doc, told me!!

Medication is needed for life to control type 2 diabetes, an inactive thyroid, and high blood pressure, according to my Doc!!

 

[mitchell76]

Not necessarily true. If you revert to your former eating habits, yes the weight will come back.

However if somebody learns how to modify their diet and lifestyle there is absolutely no reason why the weight has to return. Ozempic does not change how your body or organs work. All it does is suppress your appetite. A person needs to control what and how much they put into their bodies.

That's easier said then done, especially as you get older!!

 

[mitchell76]

Wow! You are such a genius researcher!

It also says it on the Product Monograph (Instruction sheet) in the package. And the Dr who prescribes it tells patients the same thing.

Bariatric surgery is the only single procedure fix for obesity.


Let me ask you this Mitch. Seriously. If you could fix being gullible and stupid for $200 a month or a one time fee of $20,000.00 would you pay it?



If so, PM me and I'll give you my paypal link.

You're not such a genius yourself.......LMAO

 

[SchlongConery]

Not necessarily true. If you revert to your former eating habits, yes the weight will come back.

However if somebody learns how to modify their diet and lifestyle there is absolutely no reason why the weight has to return. Ozempic does not change how your body or organs work. All it does is suppress your appetite. A person needs to control what and how much they put into their bodies.

Not exactly. The semaglutides also change the way and order in which your glucagon-like receotors react to regulate insulin spiking, gastric emptying and metabolizingglycogen, it moderates also metabolic processes. It does supress your appetite to some degreee through your brain. But grehlin, another hunger hormone produced by your stomach lining also iis still there. Especially if your stomach pounch has become distended. . Many obese people eat out of habit or routine and appettite supresessants like Phen-Fen and amphetamines lose their effectiveness over time too.

This is a simple compound but has complex mechanisms of action working on metabolic process'.

 

[SchlongConery]

You're not such a genius yourself.......LMAO

I proudly admit that I am far from a genius. But I really like to learn, And I love to be wrong. It means I'm still learning. The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

If anything, that recognition makes me a little bit more of a genius.

 

[SchlongConery]

It all depends on what your bloodwork results are. If you have type 2 diabetes or an inactive thyroid, you can exercise 5 hrs a day, and watch what you eat, and still never lose weight. At least that's what my family doc, told me!!

Medication is needed for life to control type 2 diabetes, an inactive thyroid, and high blood pressure, according to my Doc!!

And that's what I've been saying all along. Weight and body composition is extremely complex. Ever wonder why some skinny asshole can eat Big Macs and fries all day and never gain weight. Yet some girl trying her best with eating vegies, 4 ounce portions of lean meats and exercising still stays chubby despite her hard work and discipline?

Human physiology is incredibly complex.

We are not competing in the Olympics, so 'cheating' with whatever drugs science and BIG BAD BIG PHARMA can do to help should not be dismissed because somebody is making money..

 

[NotADcotor]

Yes, to a degree. But weight loss and management is quite a complex metabolic process.

Like mental health, obesity is a serious and growing issue facing our health care system. If there are medications that can help, it's less expensive and better for everyone than taking the hard-ass approach. Some of us can eat deep fried fish and chips and not get fat. Some can't eat tuna sandwiches and celery without not being able to lose or keep weight off long term.

This is proven medical science.

Otherwise, matabolic modifying drugs like the semiglutides would not work.

It's actually a simple metabolic process, it's a brutally hard psychological one. This is why people can lose weight, but very few can keep it off long term, because old hobbits die hard.
You don't see any fatties in concentration camps [among those who have been there for a while, the Japanese held POWs or for that matter things like the Minnesota Starvation experiment. People are very bad at judging how many calories they take in, and yeah metabolisms vary both among people and over time but not to the extent that snake oil salesmen that infest youtube would have you believe and even if you have a harsh hand delt in life in that regard, one just has to go harder.


Meh, Ozempic, I'll stick to my Crack, Meth and Heroin stack thank you very much.

 

[eddie kerr]

Also, Ozempic costs well over $1000/month, if you don't have private insurance!!

WRONG. The drug is totally covered by OHIP. Also, if you are diabetic as my wife is, would you prefer two injections per day every day, or once a day per week? She did lose some weight but very little. The drug semaglutide suppresses your appetite.

 

[NotADcotor]

It all depends on what your bloodwork results are. If you have type 2 diabetes or an inactive thyroid, you can exercise 5 hrs a day, and watch what you eat, and still never lose weight. At least that's what my family doc, told me!!

Medication is needed for life to control type 2 diabetes, an inactive thyroid, and high blood pressure, according to my Doc!!

Either you are making shit up or your Doctor doesn't know what he is talking about.

I had a 10.1 fasting blood glucose and a H1aC to match, lost 50 pounds by eating less mostly, numbers went back to normal. So 1: You can lose weight with T2 and you don't need meds to control T2 for life.
You did say or in your first statement BTW.

And even if you have thyroid problems, you don't eat, you will lose weight. Your doctor if he does exist sounds like one of thee Jason Fung/Mercola bullshit artists who misrepresent the evidence either because they don't know better or as part of a grift. About half of what Dr Oz says has no evidence to back it up and a 1/6 of what he says the evidence says doesn't work. All three are actual doctors. I know someone who sees a doctor who feeds into her anti vax bullshit.

 

[mitchell76]

WRONG. The drug is totally covered by OHIP. Also, if you are diabetic as my wife is, would you prefer two injections per day every day, or once a day per week? She did lose some weight but very little. The drug semaglutide suppresses your appetite.

Ozempic is not necessarily covered by OHIP for everyone, according to this article!!

Ozempic Insurance Coverage Canada - Is It Covered By OHIP?

Explore OHIP coverage for Ozempic, plus insurance tips and cost-saving options.

sleeveclinic.ca

 

[SchlongConery]

It's actually a simple metabolic process, it's a brutally hard psychological one. This is why people can lose weight, but very few can keep it off long term, because old hobbits die hard.
You don't see any fatties in concentration camps [among those who have been there for a while, the Japanese held POWs or for that matter things like the Minnesota Starvation experiment. People are very bad at judging how many calories they take in, and yeah metabolisms vary both among people and over time but not to the extent that snake oil salesmen that infest youtube would have you believe and even if you have a harsh hand delt in life in that regard, one just has to go harder.

Sounds simple, logical and doable on paper. So is quitting smoking, jacking off, and not getting soft playing a tough battle of WoW!

Some of the less stronk mere mortals can improve their lives dramatically with a $10 a day medication.

Meh, Ozempic, I'll stick to my Crack, Meth and Heroin stack thank you very much.

Obviously!

 

[NotADcotor]

Yet some girl trying her best with eating vegies, 4 ounce portions of lean meats and exercising still stays chubby despite her hard work and discipline?

Odds are she is eating much more than she lets on. They, you know, they find this over and over again, what people self report and what they do often don't match.

If you are literally eating veggies [not potato chips] and a few 4 ounce portions of lean meats and staying chubby with exercise, and this is verified, someone should study how it's done, it would solve our energy problems.

 

[SchlongConery]

Either you are making shit up or your Doctor doesn't know what he is talking about.

I had a 10.1 fasting blood glucose and a H1aC to match, lost 50 pounds by eating less mostly, numbers went back to normal. So 1: You can lose weight with T2 and you don't need meds to control T2 for life.
You did say or in your first statement BTW.

And even if you have thyroid problems, you don't eat, you will lose weight. Your doctor if he does exist sounds like one of thee Jason Fung/Mercola bullshit artists who misrepresent the evidence either because they don't know better or as part of a grift. About half of what Dr Oz says has no evidence to back it up and a 1/6 of what he says the evidence says doesn't work. All three are actual doctors. I know someone who sees a doctor who feeds into her anti vax bullshit.

PTH and the other thyroid hormones are also affected by other metabolic hormones like "vitamin D" (which is not a vitamin, it is a hormone) . Ye you have intact vs non etc.

Cortisol and other stress hormones, asymptomatic cardiomyopathy etc can also cause general fluid retention etc.

Everyone ere already seems to know it all and have it figured out so I'll leave it to y'alls. No sense wasting more time arguing with Mitch-types.

 

[SchlongConery]

Odds are she is eating much more than she lets on. They, you know, they find this over and over again, what people self report and what they do often don't match.

If you are literally eating veggies [not potato chips] and a few 4 ounce portions of lean meats and staying chubby with exercise, and this is verified, someone should study how it's done, it would solve our energy problems.

If you say so.

 

[eddie kerr]

Ozempic is not necessarily covered by OHIP for everyone, according to this article!!

Ozempic Insurance Coverage Canada - Is It Covered By OHIP?

Explore OHIP coverage for Ozempic, plus insurance tips and cost-saving options.

sleeveclinic.ca

All you have to do is check with your pharmacy if you are covered. Bottom line is this a miracle drug, just ask my wife, actually don't, she will think you are an asshole, LOL.

 

[NotADcotor]

Sounds simple, logical and doable on paper. So is quitting smoking, jacking off, and not getting soft playing a tough battle of WoW!

Some of the less stronk mere mortals can improve their lives dramatically with a $10 a day medication.



Obviously!

I never said it was simple logical and doable. Junk food for me calls to me like crack.If it was easy I'd be under 200 pounds and I am not. I've done better than most but still. It's fucking hard to resist. I'm just saying if you can find a hack to do it, it is doable, it will be harder for some than others, but it is possible. There is this narrative that the fat acceptance movement [the one movement that involves no actual movement] that some people just can't lose weight no matter what, it's biochemically impossible. I'd bet dollars to sweet delicious donuts <homer slobber> that pulled a Bobby Sands they would lose weight, not that I would recommend that.

Nor am I arguing against taking meds or the knife because it is fucking difficult to diet and exercise and a serious issue the latter of which I do suffer from.

Not sure what is worse, the can't win don't try sorts or those people on the other end you give that Running Faggot from Kids in the Hall advice of, have you tried eating less and moving more. Yeah that would work obviously but the devil is in the details of how to do it and keep doing it.

Personally I find the only thing that works is to take the AA model [without the higher power bullshit] and apply it to food and treat it as the addiction that it most likely is for us tubby bitches. Problem foods need to go on the never again pile. Foods that you just can't control, or foods that set off a spiral of bad eating. What ever those foods might be.
However the prospect of never eating cake, or bacon is very hard to get your head around, much like an alchie who says they will never take another drink. Generally you will fail and have to try again and more than once.
Fuck I want a pizza right now.

There are other hacks, limit eating by dietary restriction which is similar to the above, vegans, keto etc, or limit consumption via eating windows which has no magical powers beyond calorie restriction which is shown if you read the details that fasting fanboys often share but obviously haven't read the deets on. Or maybe just hire some 300 pound muscle bound MMA dude to punch you in the face whenever you eat beyond a certain amount every day, that works well I hear.

 

[NotADcotor]

If you say so.

It's not me who says so, it's what studies have shown.
If you think someone can eat 500 calories and exercise and not lose weight... Have you considered voting for Trump and taking advice from Andrew Taint?

 

[NotADcotor]

PTH and the other thyroid hormones

If I wanted a thyrod hormone, I'd find out what agency she works for hire her for some DATY

Bad da bam <rimshot>

 

[The Oracle]

WRONG. The drug is totally covered by OHIP. Also, if you are diabetic as my wife is, would you prefer two injections per day every day, or once a day per week? She did lose some weight but very little. The drug semaglutide suppresses your appetite.

'' While Ozempic is covered by OHIP for the treatment of type 2 diabetes, its coverage specifically for weight loss purposes may vary. OHIP typically covers medications that are deemed medically necessary and approved by Health Canada for specific indications. ''

 

[mitchell76]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ozempic-ontario-drug-access-changes-1.7100352