Open Discussion: Increasing Average Rates Getting Too High?
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why would I care? I'd only care about what Im paying...and if the average in Durham in general is high, then it is high
if I could find a reliable SP in Belleville / GTA who charges way lesser than you, I'd rather drive and get my money's worth
and any which ways, you yourself arent 'reliable', havent seen any reviews of you Tiny Royal in years on this forum, so I dont know what your going on about here...take a seat
Clear you haven't check my review sir so you take seat , I post when I work, and my rule, must be followed.
you should care because if gta hotel do the rural areas will too meaning girls are gonna raise their rates or book more clients and rush but as you said you want to get your money worth cool keep that in mind for future when you want to book with me.
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wow, book you? your future? the 4 times I remember Ive tried booking you, youve come up with the lamest excuses that too after confirming our appointment each time..
either your pizza was late or your fridge was broken or your car broke down on the 401 and you had to repair it
just say you dont want business..Ill gladly give it to someone else...
and your here arguing about overpriced escorts...lol what a nutcase
You claiming excuses I’m just being generally honest, how do I have a car on road if I been working on my car I’m a G1 driver still I didn’t do my G2 tester because I had to get a jump in my garage, which is parked,so what do you want me to FaceTime you right now and explain what’s going on my car I found in the rain the trunk has been open since May .The battery is fucked. You really think I wanna be around anybody if I found out my first vehicle I bought at 19 is fucked up and I’m 24 right to do my G2 test and I find out it’s messed up and that was my first car I bought so how do you think I felt emotionally mentally and physically cause I was ready to hit the roof and I remember one point my phone died, my mechanic which was a client came and I ran downstairs and left the phone on charger ,not the fact that we were trying to rip out the seats to get to the back where my battery is then we had a fight. Figure out where the jumper cables are post to be. It literally took a three hours. How long does the normal Take a jump 20 minutes that with the whole situation, even the mechanic didn’t even understand the car I literally was crying in the rain even my neighbor. One of my neighbors came down and tried to help that’s how bad it was. I literally was crying in the rain trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with this car sat down with the flashlight and realize the trunk was open since may my battery is in the trunk. OK so how do you think I felt when I know the only thing that can turn on this car is messed up.
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As the OP of this thread, I just want to say that I think that based on the conversations had in here that it does rely heavily on quality. I for one am more than happy to spend whatever ladies like Amber, Jenesis, ifyouseekamy, KK, Gianna, Xina, Ashlee, Nikki Jameson, Heidi, etc etc charge because I know they're credible. However, here in Durham we are in the middle of a conundrum.
On one hand, we have a lot of scammers who rob clients or bait and switch us either with services not being provided that were agreed to or getting a completely different lady at the door than we were expecting. This problem is two-fold because it affects both the legitimate ladies working as well as us clients. These scammer SPs charge all variety of price points. They can range anywhere from $80-$400/hh. So it automatically says to us as clients that price is not indicative of quality or legitimacy. This then affects you legit ladies because any new clients who have faced this issue are immediately skeptical of every provider going forward unless they know to look somewhere like here to find out, which most men don't.
I think if we all worked together, clients and legit SPs, to try to rid Durham of these scammers by reporting ads enough to get them taken down, placing anonymous tips to crime stoppers, etc when we can, it would go a long way to tell them they aren't welcome here. While I understand that sounds ludacris, if we don't do something about it they will just eventually be all that's left. All our lovely ladies will either move on or be the only reliable providers left aside from scammers.
On the other hand, you have cheap, low-balling, trolling, fake booking, bad clients. Which again is a two-fold problem. The fact is there are more bad clients/potential clients than there are good ones. Now, unfortunately, I don't know how much is good clients can do to help our ladies with that. If any of you ladies have any ideas, please feel free to share. But, off the top of my head, the best thing I can think of is for SPs to automatically block and not entertain any of those clients as best as possible. I know most of you already do this. But I also know others who just try to ignore and disregard these clients. Maybe ladies can work better together to bring more good SPs to advertise here on terb? Maybe SPs can work towards supporting each other (even if they don't work together directly) in some ways instead of competing? But these are the clients who keep us from having more of the good ladies here. They're just as bad as the scammers. They drive good SPs away with their bullshit.
Idk I'm really just spilling my brain vomit on to the page rn. This is such a complex issue here in Durham that I'm not quite sure how much can be done.
On one hand, we have a lot of scammers who rob clients or bait and switch us either with services not being provided that were agreed to or getting a completely different lady at the door than we were expecting. This problem is two-fold because it affects both the legitimate ladies working as well as us clients. These scammer SPs charge all variety of price points. They can range anywhere from $80-$400/hh. So it automatically says to us as clients that price is not indicative of quality or legitimacy. This then affects you legit ladies because any new clients who have faced this issue are immediately skeptical of every provider going forward unless they know to look somewhere like here to find out, which most men don't.
I think if we all worked together, clients and legit SPs, to try to rid Durham of these scammers by reporting ads enough to get them taken down, placing anonymous tips to crime stoppers, etc when we can, it would go a long way to tell them they aren't welcome here. While I understand that sounds ludacris, if we don't do something about it they will just eventually be all that's left. All our lovely ladies will either move on or be the only reliable providers left aside from scammers.
On the other hand, you have cheap, low-balling, trolling, fake booking, bad clients. Which again is a two-fold problem. The fact is there are more bad clients/potential clients than there are good ones. Now, unfortunately, I don't know how much is good clients can do to help our ladies with that. If any of you ladies have any ideas, please feel free to share. But, off the top of my head, the best thing I can think of is for SPs to automatically block and not entertain any of those clients as best as possible. I know most of you already do this. But I also know others who just try to ignore and disregard these clients. Maybe ladies can work better together to bring more good SPs to advertise here on terb? Maybe SPs can work towards supporting each other (even if they don't work together directly) in some ways instead of competing? But these are the clients who keep us from having more of the good ladies here. They're just as bad as the scammers. They drive good SPs away with their bullshit.
Idk I'm really just spilling my brain vomit on to the page rn. This is such a complex issue here in Durham that I'm not quite sure how much can be done.
Your right but only so much we can do I ask cops for y’all they said make reports but the bill is the main problem too we need to get it changed or further down line what you saying might be true this is the next problem remember the bill is there to protect girls it’s 10 times harder now on clients to report fraud because stupid bill without incriminating himself because it’s a problem and the scammers are using it too there power against you guys now and of course pimps who scam and girls who scam or tag team like everyone has told me stories but it’s getting crazier now I heard when I was 18. The client came in and he said I’m glad you were very truthful. “ I went to the next girl She went to the bathroom and a gun was pulled on him. A few months back next comes in the bait and switched him and run off with his money.
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Getting an agency open is what can or rather NEEDS to be done. I’m not gonna sit there reporting adds on leolist. Hell I don’t even wanna create an account on there. Government legalizing and taxing this is also what needs to be done. Like I said, you have agencies and you have spas, why would I book a random on LeoList? Very few providers in the GTA or Durham post on leolist but also have good reviews on terb. And based on the providers you listed above, I’m sorry, but for the same prices I can go and get 25 year olds in Toronto that are in shape. Why does a 45 year old charge me 200-220 for HH in Durham or more let’s be real. That’s Durham for you though.
Guys using common sense and not getting scammed and posting on terb is what can be done but hey I guess we can’t all have a decently high IQ right? Folks that don’t know about terb you can’t blame them but guys on here that post about getting scammed because they want a 100$ quicky deserve what’s coming for them. These are the same guys that say “100$ pussy is still pussy”. Pathetic.
Except I have already explained why an agency won’t come to Durham and how there were like 4-5 agencies and they all left or shut down because of the men here in Durham and their strange hold on rates.
High hotel or rent costs, low quantity of apartments and hotels to work from, rates vrs escort pay vrs profit. It just doesn’t work anymore.
I get it. You have a place like Mirage who has dozens of girls still charging 160/hh but they can do that based on the volume of available clients in the city and the amount of SPs that can work. Durham doesn’t have the numbers to support that. With the cost of living and the demand for even lower rates, it is just not feasible.
As for why a 45 should charge 200/hh, if the service matches, why not. I personally don’t charge that but then I don’t have the same expenses, have many regulars who would have grandfathered rates anyways, and I don’t require this income to put food on my table, but I can’t fault a good provider for charging that. Just like I can’t fault a client for going to the GTA for a 20 something girl for the same price.
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Get an agency open in Pickering with attractive young women and not the 45 year old regulars that post daily on leolist, along with reasonable rates and the men will come. And it will weed out the losers that can’t afford to hobby. It will certainly highjack away clients from Pickering angels at a minimum or trashy spas that pop open randomly. And now times are different compared to when previous agencies were open. I think the time is right for another agency in Durham.
You are welcome to open one of you believe it to be so easy and profitable. I just don’t know too many people who have a minimum of 10-15K lying around to start an agency. And that is just the rental apartment and furniture set up. Don’t forget website, photos, ads, and getting the minimum of 8-10 fresh young hot GFE/PSE girls to start, that are already not in Durham.
I’m not saying it would not be nice for guys to have an agency out here. I really do wish there was one, but sadly - it is not going to happen because the numbers at this time, just don’t work.
But maybe give it a go and see if you can make one work.
Edit: to be clear, I mean this in the most respectful way. And I’m sincere when I say I wish there was an agency out here for you guys. I try hard for you guys. I advertise TERB all the time, even in my LL ads by telling guys to look for my reviews, hoping they will look for other reviews. I have had so many guys thank me for showing them TERB and helping them. I have had escorts text me all pissed off because I tell guys to complain to hotel management when they are robbed (not give shitty service because that is different) but straight up robbed, to get the girl kicked out. As I said, there are limited hotels. They will run out of them eventually if they are banned for robbing clients. I seriously go to bat for you guys a lot but it is not fair to bash all of Durham either. We do our best, the ones that are here and real and service oriented. And it was the men who drove the agencies away and now with the cost of living, profit in Toronto and the same games going on with men here - you will not be seeing a successful agency anytime soon.
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Lol there’s always the one comment “open one if you think you can do it”. Typical.
However, at this point what would work is another agency or spa that is a franchise like Perla spa to come in and set up something like that. At the same time we are too far away from Toronto so geographically we’re not that attractive. But it would service the cities out easy. Regardless I gave my opinion, no I’m not going to open an agency, at this point an established agency that would look to expand would have to come into play that knows the rules and regulations.
Actually - that might work. IF they can get the girls they already have to come out here. Still a difficult task and a costly investment that may not pan out.
A few agencies did that in Ottawa, where there is more play money available within the city and it was the same as here, because there was nothing out there but indies. Mirage, again, being one of them. It lasted about a year before they shut it down because it was not profitable and not enough girls would go. However, Durham being closer, girls may be a little more willing.
Also - please see my edit. I didn’t want to come across as rude. You seem to know a lot about the industry so I threw the suggestion out there. Maybe the better suggestion now is - approach some owners. Maybe you will plant a seed and something may come of it. Never hurts to try.
I was trying to get owner of my old Spa to open up a spot out here because funny thing most of the girls she hired are from Durham or Ottawa,Montreal or other provinces that would come and working for little and go back which been like that last few years,
she would not budge all hats off if you find one willing too.
Just to summarize everything.
Hobbyists are concerned the rates of SP are going up but the service is still the same/ sub par.
SP have to raise rates due to the cost of living/ running their business.
Both valid reasons & concerns.
My solution to both of y’all, for us Hobbyist no more TOFFT only stick to tried & true providers that have built a reputation & deserving of your hard earned cash. Boycott the
In this economy, it’s not feasible to TOFFT & support scam operations/ possibly pimped out SP. Be wiser.
To providers, if you feel clients in Durham Region are too stingey with rates, you are more than welcome to tour & go to other cities where you can charge more which I noticed some SP local to Durham have already been doing that. I have zero idea how this business runs but I doubt hotel prices are cheaper anywhere else.
200 for HH is way too high unless you are providing an upscale experience, provide extras or reputable, not just advertising yourself as one. Anyone can called themselves an “upscale provider”
Hobbyists are concerned the rates of SP are going up but the service is still the same/ sub par.
SP have to raise rates due to the cost of living/ running their business.
Both valid reasons & concerns.
My solution to both of y’all, for us Hobbyist no more TOFFT only stick to tried & true providers that have built a reputation & deserving of your hard earned cash. Boycott the
In this economy, it’s not feasible to TOFFT & support scam operations/ possibly pimped out SP. Be wiser.
To providers, if you feel clients in Durham Region are too stingey with rates, you are more than welcome to tour & go to other cities where you can charge more which I noticed some SP local to Durham have already been doing that. I have zero idea how this business runs but I doubt hotel prices are cheaper anywhere else.
200 for HH is way too high unless you are providing an upscale experience, provide extras or reputable, not just advertising yourself as one. Anyone can called themselves an “upscale provider”
I wanted to chime in, my experience has been the same with Tiny Royal/ Eryka although there have been positive reviews by people that has actually been able to see her. Unprofessional behaviour… I got some weird texts from her that was more like her talking to herself than me & last minute excuses 3 times I tried setting something up. What is this girl on? For that reason, I am out.
All 100% true.
I’ll probably get some hate from both sides for this but here goes …..
I think more men need to release they have a responsibility to do their research and stop being mesmerized by fake pics and dirty talk. It’s your hard earned money. Stop getting mad at people taking it and start investing it properly by doing your research. You don’t hire a contractor, lawyer or accountant without reviews or a referral. Why should sex purchasing be any different? Part of the blame is on you if you insist on scrolling through LL or other similar sites and not looking up reviews. Or leaving right away when you know the pics are a complete B&S. How many times do we see, pics were not of her but I decided to stay. If she lied about her pics, why would you think she didn’t lie about her services.
And more men need to review. Especially the bad experiences. We all know who the top providers are in Durham and reviews of us are great, don’t stop. But start reviewing the shitty ones a little more. It only helps out you hobbyist more. So many lurkers and not enough reviews. We all know who the top reviewers in Durham are as well. We need more reviews.
I think more ladies need to realize that just because one person charges a certain rate, doesn’t mean that should be your rate too. Your rates should be based on your required quota, days working, expenses paid, and service provided, as well as age, looks and location combined. I’m a BBW. In her 40s. I’m not going to command $500/hr. Those are just facts. It is not a knock to myself as I don’t think there is anything wrong with being a 40 something BBW. But I’m not an idiot either and know that a woman who is 25 with an hour glass shape, big boobs, phat ass and with the same menu and great service as me - is more inline with $400-500/hr. If not more, based on looks and age. And I say possibly more, based on location.
If you can’t make all the money you need as income in Durham, then as suggested - tour. Touring is a great way to double, if not triple your monthly income from here in Durham. And touring can be as simple as heading to Markham which is only 30 mins away. This is from my personal experience.
Or get a second source of income. No one says that escorting has to be your main source and if COVID taught us anything, having multiple income streams is beneficial, even if it means some extra work. Not all can do this, I understand but most escorts can find other income streams if they try hard enough.
That is my tough love for the day.
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If anyone wants to see me today, I’m here And yes I am Werido and I fully embraced it since I was a child, I will admit I have mental health which does hinder me most days THATS WHY I agree too see everyone when I’m feel 100% that is why I have amazing reviews because when I’m 100% I give my clients 100%
If you want a half ass service I don’t provide that so what you might feel as excuses might be me trying to cover for my mental health because I don’t want to speak about a publicly if anyone has realized, I’m very very private person when people just shut down it’s something out of are control I try my hardest to not get there but as I said, no one understands what someone’s going through until they actually speak the fuck up.
But I’m just naturally bubbly and I overshare a lot but if you find I’m weird, then you’re not meant to be my client my energy is a vibe I have ADHD so I do go off topic half the time, but don’t ever slander me because you feel I’m weird because do I really wanna drop the messages of how many people ghosted me so who is supposed to come yesterday at 12 and change the time to one didn’t show up
cause on my snap. Everyone saw my make up done and Me dressed waiting for an appointment and I was on cam yesterday's at 2 something and I was home all day. I didn’t leave until 11 PM.
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