Open Discussion: Increasing Average Rates Getting Too High?
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Rates do need to go up, but expect less traffic. $200 for less than 10-15 mins of time to get laid does seem high. She has to be amazing with a list of clients lined up to afford those rates long term. $160 is a decent rate in my opinion for an average provider and then add on the extras if available.
Someone above mentioned that an escort is seeing less and less traffic because there is less money going around and its such a discretionary expense. I believe this to be true, and have seen some decent girls run through Peterborough because the cost for Leo, hotel and such wasn't worth it when their ad was replaced in 6 mins with 100 other girls. Guys up here are appreciating good talent entering the market and don't mind paying for it.
Someone above mentioned that an escort is seeing less and less traffic because there is less money going around and its such a discretionary expense. I believe this to be true, and have seen some decent girls run through Peterborough because the cost for Leo, hotel and such wasn't worth it when their ad was replaced in 6 mins with 100 other girls. Guys up here are appreciating good talent entering the market and don't mind paying for it.
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It’s so funny to still see this thread active on such a petty topic. I mean come on guys, if this were you providing the service, you would be escalating your prices up high as well looking at the shitty economy we are in.
Don’t blame the girls because it’s their livelihood. If no one complains about the price of an Apple product and continues to buy it, same is with the SPs. Instead of complaining just choose your price and go with that one.
Don’t blame the girls because it’s their livelihood. If no one complains about the price of an Apple product and continues to buy it, same is with the SPs. Instead of complaining just choose your price and go with that one.
Yeah not sure why all the concern over rates. I work full-time retail so I'm obv not rich but being able to see a bombshell like @foxxxy lady for example who provides a true PSE is worth saving for if it keeps her and the the other well-reviewed providers in Durham. It seems everyone agrees we're all free to see who we want for whatever rates so to thumpers' point, maybe discuss the ones worth seeing. If what's available is laid out that will direct clients to their preferred providers and nothing else needs to be said.
Just want to put this out here. The OP had no desire to have this conversation with certain guys who see a certain price point of ladies.
A couple of guys who's posts have been deleted need to remember to keep their pissing matches away from the public forums, lest suspensions become necessary.
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Ultimately it’s not so much about the prices but the quality. Some dude in the comments above said 120$ pussy is still pussy. I have more respect for myself then to pay $120 for some nasty ass looking girl. You can’t save up another 100$ and go to Toronto where there are literally 150 times more attractive women and more variety? Not to mention agencies, Perla Spa has some smoking hot women. Have some self respect for yourself like common.
Durham is filled with scammers and aging providers. No disrespect to them.
All I’m saying girls can charge what they want, but the true quality is NOT in Durham whatsoever. I don’t even check Durhams offerings anymore and like a pizza, I wanna try different slices not the same one like Ashlee even though she has great reviews and looks great. Have some self respect for yourselves guys. Save up a few dollars and go to Toronto. Or, band together and open up an agency here that offers quality, cute girls, and acceptable pricing. Rant over.
Durham is filled with scammers and aging providers. No disrespect to them.
All I’m saying girls can charge what they want, but the true quality is NOT in Durham whatsoever. I don’t even check Durhams offerings anymore and like a pizza, I wanna try different slices not the same one like Ashlee even though she has great reviews and looks great. Have some self respect for yourselves guys. Save up a few dollars and go to Toronto. Or, band together and open up an agency here that offers quality, cute girls, and acceptable pricing. Rant over.
honestly if you guys are complaining about rates why troll and text girls about 40$ service ?my rates and service are on my ad ?
I honestly agree thought Durham is turning into barrier at this point and you guys know lots girl leave because of few things.
The girls should leave. Too many guys looking to hobby here and they can’t afford it. Then they complain on terb when they get scammed because they’re too lazy or cheap to drive to the GTA for quality women and service. Even yourself you should go to Toronto so you don’t deal with the guys here for your own mental health lol.
my rates and service are on my ad ?
I honestly agree thought Durham is turning into barrier at this point and you guys know lots girl leave because of few things.
Trust me Dunham will be limited for next few month, I honestly only see my regular most time when I’m here, but I don’t get hotel anymore cause it’s a wastes of money and time, and then scammer's y’all sadly will be left with since you can’t get your shit together out here
Clear you haven't check my review sir so you take seat , I post when I work, and my rule, must be followed.
you should care because if gta hotel do the rural areas will too meaning girls are gonna raise their rates or book more clients and rush but as you said you want to get your money worth cool keep that in mind for future when you want to book with me.
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You claiming excuses I’m just being generally honest, how do I have a car on road if I been working on my car I’m a G1 driver still I didn’t do my G2 tester because I had to get a jump in my garage, which is parked,so what do you want me to FaceTime you right now and explain what’s going on my car I found in the rain the trunk has been open since May .The battery is fucked. You really think I wanna be around anybody if I found out my first vehicle I bought at 19 is fucked up and I’m 24 right to do my G2 test and I find out it’s messed up and that was my first car I bought so how do you think I felt emotionally mentally and physically cause I was ready to hit the roof and I remember one point my phone died, my mechanic which was a client came and I ran downstairs and left the phone on charger ,not the fact that we were trying to rip out the seats to get to the back where my battery is then we had a fight. Figure out where the jumper cables are post to be. It literally took a three hours. How long does the normal Take a jump 20 minutes that with the whole situation, even the mechanic didn’t even understand the car I literally was crying in the rain even my neighbor. One of my neighbors came down and tried to help that’s how bad it was. I literally was crying in the rain trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with this car sat down with the flashlight and realize the trunk was open since may my battery is in the trunk. OK so how do you think I felt when I know the only thing that can turn on this car is messed up.
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As the OP of this thread, I just want to say that I think that based on the conversations had in here that it does rely heavily on quality. I for one am more than happy to spend whatever ladies like Amber, Jenesis, ifyouseekamy, KK, Gianna, Xina, Ashlee, Nikki Jameson, Heidi, etc etc charge because I know they're credible. However, here in Durham we are in the middle of a conundrum.
On one hand, we have a lot of scammers who rob clients or bait and switch us either with services not being provided that were agreed to or getting a completely different lady at the door than we were expecting. This problem is two-fold because it affects both the legitimate ladies working as well as us clients. These scammer SPs charge all variety of price points. They can range anywhere from $80-$400/hh. So it automatically says to us as clients that price is not indicative of quality or legitimacy. This then affects you legit ladies because any new clients who have faced this issue are immediately skeptical of every provider going forward unless they know to look somewhere like here to find out, which most men don't.
I think if we all worked together, clients and legit SPs, to try to rid Durham of these scammers by reporting ads enough to get them taken down, placing anonymous tips to crime stoppers, etc when we can, it would go a long way to tell them they aren't welcome here. While I understand that sounds ludacris, if we don't do something about it they will just eventually be all that's left. All our lovely ladies will either move on or be the only reliable providers left aside from scammers.
On the other hand, you have cheap, low-balling, trolling, fake booking, bad clients. Which again is a two-fold problem. The fact is there are more bad clients/potential clients than there are good ones. Now, unfortunately, I don't know how much is good clients can do to help our ladies with that. If any of you ladies have any ideas, please feel free to share. But, off the top of my head, the best thing I can think of is for SPs to automatically block and not entertain any of those clients as best as possible. I know most of you already do this. But I also know others who just try to ignore and disregard these clients. Maybe ladies can work better together to bring more good SPs to advertise here on terb? Maybe SPs can work towards supporting each other (even if they don't work together directly) in some ways instead of competing? But these are the clients who keep us from having more of the good ladies here. They're just as bad as the scammers. They drive good SPs away with their bullshit.
Idk I'm really just spilling my brain vomit on to the page rn. This is such a complex issue here in Durham that I'm not quite sure how much can be done.
On one hand, we have a lot of scammers who rob clients or bait and switch us either with services not being provided that were agreed to or getting a completely different lady at the door than we were expecting. This problem is two-fold because it affects both the legitimate ladies working as well as us clients. These scammer SPs charge all variety of price points. They can range anywhere from $80-$400/hh. So it automatically says to us as clients that price is not indicative of quality or legitimacy. This then affects you legit ladies because any new clients who have faced this issue are immediately skeptical of every provider going forward unless they know to look somewhere like here to find out, which most men don't.
I think if we all worked together, clients and legit SPs, to try to rid Durham of these scammers by reporting ads enough to get them taken down, placing anonymous tips to crime stoppers, etc when we can, it would go a long way to tell them they aren't welcome here. While I understand that sounds ludacris, if we don't do something about it they will just eventually be all that's left. All our lovely ladies will either move on or be the only reliable providers left aside from scammers.
On the other hand, you have cheap, low-balling, trolling, fake booking, bad clients. Which again is a two-fold problem. The fact is there are more bad clients/potential clients than there are good ones. Now, unfortunately, I don't know how much is good clients can do to help our ladies with that. If any of you ladies have any ideas, please feel free to share. But, off the top of my head, the best thing I can think of is for SPs to automatically block and not entertain any of those clients as best as possible. I know most of you already do this. But I also know others who just try to ignore and disregard these clients. Maybe ladies can work better together to bring more good SPs to advertise here on terb? Maybe SPs can work towards supporting each other (even if they don't work together directly) in some ways instead of competing? But these are the clients who keep us from having more of the good ladies here. They're just as bad as the scammers. They drive good SPs away with their bullshit.
Idk I'm really just spilling my brain vomit on to the page rn. This is such a complex issue here in Durham that I'm not quite sure how much can be done.
Your right but only so much we can do I ask cops for y’all they said make reports but the bill is the main problem too we need to get it changed or further down line what you saying might be true this is the next problem remember the bill is there to protect girls it’s 10 times harder now on clients to report fraud because stupid bill without incriminating himself because it’s a problem and the scammers are using it too there power against you guys now and of course pimps who scam and girls who scam or tag team like everyone has told me stories but it’s getting crazier now I heard when I was 18. The client came in and he said I’m glad you were very truthful. “ I went to the next girl She went to the bathroom and a gun was pulled on him. A few months back next comes in the bait and switched him and run off with his money.
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Getting an agency open is what can or rather NEEDS to be done. I’m not gonna sit there reporting adds on leolist. Hell I don’t even wanna create an account on there. Government legalizing and taxing this is also what needs to be done. Like I said, you have agencies and you have spas, why would I book a random on LeoList? Very few providers in the GTA or Durham post on leolist but also have good reviews on terb. And based on the providers you listed above, I’m sorry, but for the same prices I can go and get 25 year olds in Toronto that are in shape. Why does a 45 year old charge me 200-220 for HH in Durham or more let’s be real. That’s Durham for you though.
Guys using common sense and not getting scammed and posting on terb is what can be done but hey I guess we can’t all have a decently high IQ right? Folks that don’t know about terb you can’t blame them but guys on here that post about getting scammed because they want a 100$ quicky deserve what’s coming for them. These are the same guys that say “100$ pussy is still pussy”. Pathetic.
Except I have already explained why an agency won’t come to Durham and how there were like 4-5 agencies and they all left or shut down because of the men here in Durham and their strange hold on rates.
High hotel or rent costs, low quantity of apartments and hotels to work from, rates vrs escort pay vrs profit. It just doesn’t work anymore.
I get it. You have a place like Mirage who has dozens of girls still charging 160/hh but they can do that based on the volume of available clients in the city and the amount of SPs that can work. Durham doesn’t have the numbers to support that. With the cost of living and the demand for even lower rates, it is just not feasible.
As for why a 45 should charge 200/hh, if the service matches, why not. I personally don’t charge that but then I don’t have the same expenses, have many regulars who would have grandfathered rates anyways, and I don’t require this income to put food on my table, but I can’t fault a good provider for charging that. Just like I can’t fault a client for going to the GTA for a 20 something girl for the same price.
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Get an agency open in Pickering with attractive young women and not the 45 year old regulars that post daily on leolist, along with reasonable rates and the men will come. And it will weed out the losers that can’t afford to hobby. It will certainly highjack away clients from Pickering angels at a minimum or trashy spas that pop open randomly. And now times are different compared to when previous agencies were open. I think the time is right for another agency in Durham.
You are welcome to open one of you believe it to be so easy and profitable. I just don’t know too many people who have a minimum of 10-15K lying around to start an agency. And that is just the rental apartment and furniture set up. Don’t forget website, photos, ads, and getting the minimum of 8-10 fresh young hot GFE/PSE girls to start, that are already not in Durham.
I’m not saying it would not be nice for guys to have an agency out here. I really do wish there was one, but sadly - it is not going to happen because the numbers at this time, just don’t work.
But maybe give it a go and see if you can make one work.
Edit: to be clear, I mean this in the most respectful way. And I’m sincere when I say I wish there was an agency out here for you guys. I try hard for you guys. I advertise TERB all the time, even in my LL ads by telling guys to look for my reviews, hoping they will look for other reviews. I have had so many guys thank me for showing them TERB and helping them. I have had escorts text me all pissed off because I tell guys to complain to hotel management when they are robbed (not give shitty service because that is different) but straight up robbed, to get the girl kicked out. As I said, there are limited hotels. They will run out of them eventually if they are banned for robbing clients. I seriously go to bat for you guys a lot but it is not fair to bash all of Durham either. We do our best, the ones that are here and real and service oriented. And it was the men who drove the agencies away and now with the cost of living, profit in Toronto and the same games going on with men here - you will not be seeing a successful agency anytime soon.
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