Oops Robby did it again!

[oldjones]

Stop spewing bullshit. He has one vote. It would subject to approval by council and subject to their rules and regulations and under intense scrutiny.

The bullshit is yours. It was was not a Council matter. It was a decision by another official body, supposedly arms-length from politics (although appointments go thru Council), and too minor and specialized to ever attract much attention.

Until the story broke in the media, Ford at least was keeping as quiet as he could the possibility that a sitting Mayor might buy a piece of public land from folks whose job applications he screens, without anyone looking at the deal.

 

[fuji]

Cry me a river Fuji.

From what I understand, he's only tried to BUY a very small piece of vast parkland (hey I know, he lives on my mom's street). Whether the city approves it is another issue.

You mean whether his employees approve their boss's application to sell city assets to himself.

No conflict of interest there!

 

[fuji]

Stop spewing bullshit. He has one vote. It would subject to approval by council and subject to their rules and regulations and under intense scrutiny.

Nope. It is a decision that would be made by city staff. People he can fire.

 

[fuji]

In Ford's case "we" didn't kick him out of office, the councilors did. "We" didn't select the replacement, the councilors did. "We" didn't get a chance to vote, which is a key principle in democracy.
"We" better understand how our democratic rights were basically violated so that "we" don't become a communist state.

We elected those councilors and they represent us better than the mayor does.

 

[AK-47]

No conflict of interest at all for the city employees reviewing their bosses unusual request to buy a park. I am sure that they felt very secure in their jobs

There is absolutely nothing against the law or against any rule for Ford to put in a tender to buy a tiny little strip of land. Nor does it put any City employees under pressure to grant his request out of fear for losing their jobs.

Your claim is paranoid and kooky, fuji

 

[destillat]

There is absolutely nothing against the law or against any rule for Ford to put in a tender to buy a tiny little strip of land. Nor does it put any City employees under pressure to grant his request out of fear for losing their jobs.

Your claim is paranoid and kooky, fuji

How the fuck could you possibly know that???

 

[Boober69]

Seriously? Tell me all about how our democratic rights were violated when a bunch of councilors (who were also elected) reacted to their constituents by severely limiting the powers of an admitted drunk (who happens to be mayor)?

Oh wait.. I'm sorry.. You're right.. Rob Ford was elected.. The rest just wandered in one day and decided to take a seat.. Right?

Again, I understand that you really really want democracy to be this simplified "I voted, that's the end of it" kinda scenario.. Unfortunately (for you.. fortunate for the rest of civilization), democracy doesn't end at the ballot box. Mayor Rob Ford knew this.. He may not like it.. But he knew this, and no amount of whining from him (or any of his shrinking contingent of pig headed, blind, morally bankrupt, Ford Nationites) can change that..

Mayor Rob Ford seems to understand that he was elected into a weak mayor system, but insists on running things like it isn't.. Isn't that the definition of insanity.. If it isn't insanity then it's at least stupidity..

"Reacted to their constituents"? How exactly?
My councilor didn't ask anyone or solicit any feedback or poll constituents. And I have yet to meet anyone in my area that raised any kind of complaint or that knew about any forum to discuss the topic. Nothing.

So tell me how councilors "reacted" to their constituents?

And btw, while you try to figure out a response to that question, you may want to check out how these fantastic councilors are spending their time and our money on important things like this:

http://www.newstalk1010.com/news/2014/05/06/councillors-vote-to-eliminate-salary-survey

 

[AK-47]

How the fuck could you possibly know that???

Have any employees complained they worried about their jobs?
You dont think the Red Star wouldve investigated that if it were the case??

Heck, the Star practically camped out at City Hall building every day, surely they wouldve come up with some type of evidence. Yet the only conflict of interest they found was Ford using his stationary for some donations, that was all.

Lack of evidence means you cant jump to conclusions and make false accusations

 

[IM469]

Lack of evidence means you cant jump to conclusions and make false accusations

Didn't you argue with the same about Ford and the original crack video ? Don't you get tired of supporting a crack addict, a drunk, a buffoon, and as proven endless times - a chronic liar ?

I'd be reluctant to say anything if someone told me Rob Ford f*cked sheep. He doesn't know what happened in a drunken stupor .. it seems he is a bottomless pit in stupid behavior.

 

[fuji]

There is absolutely nothing against the law or against any rule for Ford to put in a tender to buy a tiny little strip of land. Nor does it put any City employees under pressure to grant his request out of fear for losing their jobs.

Your claim is paranoid and kooky, fuji

You really see nothing wrong with a boss having his own employees review a transaction where he personally stands to gain financially at the expense of his organization?

Really?!

I think the reason why nobody felt pressure is the big spotlight the Star shone on it. Had it remained on the QT, they might have feared repercussions for opposing a request from a mayor who had shown he loves to attack everybody who ever opposed him.

The same mayor who sent his goons in to raid TCHC, fire people indiscriminately, and replace them with people who volunteered on his campaign. No city staffer should worry about ruling against a guy like that??????

 

[AK-47]

You really see nothing wrong with a boss having his own employees review a transaction where he personally stands to gain financially at the expense of his organization?

Really?!

No. If there was there would be laws and rules against it.

Just like there were rules for using your personal stationary to receive donations, which he got caught for

 

[destillat]

Have any employees complained they worried about their jobs?
You dont think the Red Star wouldve investigated that if it were the case??

Heck, the Star practically camped out at City Hall building every day, surely they wouldve come up with some type of evidence. Yet the only conflict of interest they found was Ford using his stationary for some donations, that was all.

Lack of evidence means you cant jump to conclusions and make false accusations

To who? The impartial, arm's length Job Security Complaint Commission???

 

[AK-47]

To who? The impartial, arm's length Job Security Complaint Commission???

Just complain to the Red Star. They would be all over that in 3 seconds flat if a City employee felt his/her job was threatened by not granting Ford that property

 

[Boober69]

Just complain to the Red Star. They would be all over that in 3 seconds flat if a City employee felt his/her job was threatened by not granting Ford that property

Don't waste your breath...these people are punch-drunk with accusing Ford for everything and anything. Ford haters have been chasing the Holy Grail of proof for years: stealing money and/or benefiting financially.
This crack stuff, drunken stupors, hanging around with shady people, etc, etc, etc, couldn't get a single charge laid against him and it has infuriated Ford haters.

So any time there is even a sniff of a potential money-related scandal, their mouths start watering. Even for the smallest thing that in the grand scheme of things is insignificant, they start smelling blood.

Anyone who is a Ford hater (like many on this thread) is extremely frustrated that he hasn't been charged with anything considering everything that has come out. So they get extremely vile when they THINK they have something on him. Kinda desperate.

 

[AK-47]

Yeah, you can say a lot of things about Ford, he's a drunk, a drug-addict, not very smart, not very slick with words.....etc.....etc. But one thing he's not and thats corrupt.

You wont find Ford with his hand in the cookie jar (like you would with so many other politicians)

 

[fuji]

No. If there was there would be laws and rules against it.

Just like there were rules for using your personal stationary to receive donations, which he got caught for

You're right there is no public interest in looking into whether these things are on the up and up.

Seriously, if you can't see why this was at least worth investigating....

 

[AK-47]

You're right there is no public interest in looking into whether these things are on the up and up.

Seriously, if you can't see why this was at least worth investigating....

I never said you couldnt investigate it. I said:

Ford broke no laws by applying through legal avenues to obtain this land.
Ford broke no City rules by applying through legal avenues to obtain this land.
There's no evidence Ford misappropriated any funds to obtain this land.
There's no evidence Ford intimidated any employees into obtaining this land.

In short, you got no case fuji. Your allegations are kooky

 

[groggy]

Yeah, you can say a lot of things about Ford, he's a drunk, a drug-addict, not very smart, not very slick with words.....etc.....etc. But one thing he's not and thats corrupt.

You wont find Ford with his hand in the cookie jar (like you would with so many other politicians)

Except for the numerous conflict of interest charges and the shoddy nepotism of hiring high school friends and pals to cushy jobs.

 

[Butler1000]

Except for the numerous conflict of interest charges and the shoddy nepotism of hiring high school friends and pals to cushy jobs.

Really. Pretty much every politician does this in one form or another. You think all campaign "volunteers" aren't looking at job prospects?

At least try to attack something that is a wee bit more exclusive to him than that.

Go Tory!

 

[fuji]

I never said you couldnt investigate it.

Which is what they were doing when Ford assaulted Dale, mugged him for his mobile phone, and then made libelous false accusations.

Last I checked assault, theft, and libel are all illegal. Too bad Dale didn't press charges.