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Frankfooter

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If either one of those had been actual insurrections we wouldn’t be having this discussion because you, along with Trudeau and Biden would be doing hard labour as punishment for treason.
If they had succeeded, you mean.
Like I said, they were crappy insurrection attempts run by fools.
 

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I have no idea why Trump would have said Ukraine could win back all it's land, since it was obvious that Russia continues to move forward. Perhaps it was a signal that he was going to provide the Tomahawk missles, but frankly I don't know. We have no idea what the dialogue between Trump and Putin was, nor really what was said behind closed doors between Trump and Zelensky. But Trump wants to end the war, and what is clear is the Zelensky is going to have to give something up, or Russia will just continue to move forward. No other leader in the world has done anything to even come close to ending the horrible conflict, you should be happy that Trump is at least willing to do something, unless you want the war to continue until Putin collapses the whole country. And no Putin would have been happy to leave things alone, so long as Ukraine remained neutral and allow independence in the Donbass region. And no, even historians didn't believe Putin was going to resurrect the soviet era, just more fear mongering dialogue. But no, your TDS won't allow you to see that.
Trump is a liar and only those with suffering with a Devotee Syndrome would think otherwise. He is deploying troops where they are not wanted and now there is a danger of an escalation even in the Caribbean!!
 
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You could well be right here. I think there was a time when he had Ivanka and Jared with him during his first run that looked more like he was backing the family. But since then the family seems to be totally operating on their own. They don't seem to be around or in photos at the golf course or public events. But we won't really know for sure until he's gone and how much and what kind of infighting happens over his estate.
I believe this time around he purposely told his family to stay out of it to avoid any possible criminal issues. He had to run and try to win to get away from all the charges. Now he won, by the time he's out he's very old if still alive. He will have ensured the family enough wealth to carry on to his great-grandkids, so why endanger having anyone come after the family? not worth it.

Much of the trump thing is so outrageous that in a Shakespeare reference, nobody would have believed it to be true if written as movie/story/play.
Nothing trump does is for free or for goodwill, so you have to ask why he is bending over backwards for Netanyahu and/or AIPAC or Adelson. The two most obvious options are cash or Netanyahu holds some kind of Epstein like dirt as power. The only other option I could suggest is that maybe trump wants to import Israeli police state tactics and tools for some kind of Palantir fascist rule. They all sound like conspiracy theory except that trump called out Adelson's cash publicly, congress is shut so the Epstein files don't come out and Palantir is taking over ICE and domestic control.
The US has and will always back Israel, regardless of who is Prez although Trump takes it to another level because he wants to be part of the rebuilding of Gaza and profit from it. The conspiracy theories are just nonsense. Your side should have come out in droves voting for Kamala, you have noone to blame but your own team.

But if trump is really souring on Putin he'd just send him tomahawks and a few other tools that could shut down the Russian economy. As it is, Ukrainian drones are getting close to screwing over Russian oil infrastructure. Without that they are in major trouble.
I believe he's afraid of sending Tomahawks just like Biden was because of the fear of escalation. Will Putin resort to tactical nukes if he's cornered with Russia being blown up from the inside? Plus if anyone has anything on Trump, it's Putin, not Israel.

There are no scraps going to americans, nothing. No infrastructure, no services and tariffs are costing them more and screwing over international trade and standings.
The only people making bank are Elon class.

MAGA is being screwed over but they still don't see it happening.
I agree on this.
 

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I believe this time around he purposely told his family to stay out of it to avoid any possible criminal issues. He had to run and try to win to get away from all the charges. Now he won, by the time he's out he's very old if still alive. He will have ensured the family enough wealth to carry on to his great-grandkids, so why endanger having anyone come after the family? not worth it.
I dunno know about this argument. trump has never been shy or tried to hide the grift and corruption. Instead he publicizes when Apple gave him a gold statue or Qatar a jet.
Here's a question, can you find him directly talking positively about his kids recently? I think he's just abandoned them and is surrounded by Project 2025 and others who are much louder about joining in on the corruption. To me it looks like he's just given up on Eric and Don jr and its only Barron who Melania brings along. Ivanka and Jared got their $2 billion and are playing that hand a bit more quietly.



The US has and will always back Israel, regardless of who is Prez although Trump takes it to another level because he wants to be part of the rebuilding of Gaza and profit from it. The conspiracy theories are just nonsense. Your side should have come out in droves voting for Kamala, you have noone to blame but your own team.
AIPAC is on its way to following the path of the NRA, already they are telling donors to give donations directly to politicians and not through them. They've become toxic. When 50% of your country says Israel is committing genocide its only a matter of time before politicians can't back zionism. The face of that debate is happening in NY with Mamdani right now. Your side backed the genocide that will end zionism.


I believe he's afraid of sending Tomahawks just like Biden was because of the fear of escalation. Will Putin resort to tactical nukes if he's cornered with Russia being blown up from the inside? Plus if anyone has anything on Trump, it's Putin, not Israel.
Anonymous says they hacked Russian government servers yesterday, so we may find out if they have anything. Not likely, but possible. As for which has more power over trump you can't deny that congress is closed because the the last vote necessary to release the Epstein files is at the door. The Guiffre PM stories look bad. You can read it as a conspiracy theory except that the government is now shut because of this.


I agree on this.
40 million americans will lose SNAP in a few days.
There are already bread lines.

 

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You agreed that if the protests had succeeded you’d be in jail with Biden and Trudeau for treason…..so….
No, I didn't agree about that.
But it is interesting that you are now admitting that the goal of the freedom convoy and J6 was to implement a fascist, authoritarian state.
 

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I dunno know about this argument. trump has never been shy or tried to hide the grift and corruption. Instead he publicizes when Apple gave him a gold statue or Qatar a jet.
Here's a question, can you find him directly talking positively about his kids recently? I think he's just abandoned them and is surrounded by Project 2025 and others who are much louder about joining in on the corruption. To me it looks like he's just given up on Eric and Don jr and its only Barron who Melania brings along. Ivanka and Jared got their $2 billion and are playing that hand a bit more quietly.
The fact that Erik and Don are a tad less in the circle but are benefiting financially more than ever proves my claim.


AIPAC is on its way to following the path of the NRA, already they are telling donors to give donations directly to politicians and not through them. They've become toxic. When 50% of your country says Israel is committing genocide its only a matter of time before politicians can't back zionism. The face of that debate is happening in NY with Mamdani right now. Your side backed the genocide that will end zionism.
Your ilk backed a corrupt CLOWN because you unfairly painted Kamala with the genocide brush and now claim you do not vote for corrupt politicians. You have no right to complain about anything the Trump administration does in helping Israel achieve its goal.


Anonymous says they hacked Russian government servers yesterday, so we may find out if they have anything. Not likely, but possible. As for which has more power over trump you can't deny that congress is closed because the the last vote necessary to release the Epstein files is at the door. The Guiffre PM stories look bad. You can read it as a conspiracy theory except that the government is now shut because of this.
I hope the truth comes out about Trump's involvement on the island. I believe it will bring down quite a few elite folks, both on the Repug and the Democratic side if the entire story were to come out. I don't, however, believe everyone who visited the island is guilty of anything to do with underage girls.

40 million americans will lose SNAP in a few days.
There are already bread lines.

I hope you're right!
 

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The fact that Erik and Don are a tad less in the circle but are benefiting financially more than ever proves my claim.
Are they?
I don't hear anything about them anymore.


Your ilk backed a corrupt CLOWN because you unfairly painted Kamala with the genocide brush and now claim you do not vote for corrupt politicians. You have no right to complain about anything the Trump administration does in helping Israel achieve its goal.
'ilk'

My ilk is the 50% of Canadians who say its genocide and the 80% of dems who wanted a ceasefire and Harris told to 'shut up, she's speaking'.
Don't blame voters for not voting for genocide, blame the dems for not doing what voters wanted.
I have a right and duty to complain and campaign to end genocide.



I hope the truth comes out about Trump's involvement on the island. I believe it will bring down quite a few elite folks, both on the Repug and the Democratic side if the entire story were to come out. I don't, however, believe everyone who visited the island is guilty of anything to do with underage girls.
I agree.


I hope you're right!
I hope I'm not, that's a lot of people who will be hungry.
 

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The fact that Erik and Don are a tad less in the circle but are benefiting financially more than ever proves my claim.
This is the very unfortunate circumstance of Presidential influence and nepotism. Many decades ago, it seemed that Presidential children led somewhat privileged but unassuming lives.

Erik and Don are operating a global enterprise that puts them squarely in front of international leaders. One or way another, they will continue to benefit for years to come. I'm not sure how we can limit their right to conduct business though.
 

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This is the very unfortunate circumstance of Presidential influence and nepotism. Many decades ago, it seemed that Presidential children led somewhat privileged but unassuming lives.

Erik and Don are operating a global enterprise that puts them squarely in front of international leaders. One or way another, they will continue to benefit for years to come. I'm not sure how we can limit their right to conduct business though.
Limit it?

Didn't you vote for it?
Everyone knew that this is the type of corruption and self dealing that trump has done his entire life.
You have been enabling it.

Looks like I was wrong, Don jr is trying to cash in on the grift and not just doing coke and videos.

 

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This is the very unfortunate circumstance of Presidential influence and nepotism. Many decades ago, it seemed that Presidential children led somewhat privileged but unassuming lives.

Erik and Don are operating a global enterprise that puts them squarely in front of international leaders. One or way another, they will continue to benefit for years to come. I'm not sure how we can limit their right to conduct business though.
I don't disagree with your post but would you be so "oh well" about it if this were Biden's son or Obama's daughters?
 
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I don't disagree with your post but would you be so "oh well" about it if this were Biden's son or Obama's daughters?
I did.

The bigger issue for Hunter was evasive tax measures. His choice of foreign partners might have left some room for question. I'm not a fan of the CCP.
 
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The King wants Shiff prosecuted as Trump Lawfare continues brought to us by @The Oracle 's favoritie soyboy podcasters

Watch Trump GET P*SSED WITH PAM BONDI in Front of Reporters!

 

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I did.

The bigger issue for Hunter was evasive tax measures. His choice of foreign partners might have left some room for question. I'm not a fan of the CCP.
Tax evasion fraud? Like Trump? "In all, the jury found two entities controlled by Trump guilty on 17 counts of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records. "
 

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Tax evasion fraud? Like Trump? "In all, the jury found two entities controlled by Trump guilty on 17 counts of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records. "
What happened with that one, wasn't he ordered to shut Trump org?
Like the trump foundation and trump university?
 

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But it is interesting that you are now admitting that the goal of the freedom convoy and J6 was to implement a fascist, authoritarian state.
Dude, if the Freedom Convoy and the Patriots had wanted fascism and authoritarianism, all they had to do was stay home and let Trudeau and Biden hand us over to the WEF….
 

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Dude, if the Freedom Convoy and the Patriots had wanted fascism and authoritarianism, all they had to do was stay home and let Trudeau and Biden hand us over to the WEF….
That's a weird conspiracy theory.
You really believe that one?
 
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