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superstar_88

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This may sound like something contradictory to what I’ve been saying about playoff hockey, that you have to play great defence to win, but with the makeup of this team being substantially more talented in offence over defence, they may have a better chance of beating CBJ if they just play to their strength by pushing hard on offence and just trade chances.

Too often I’ve seen them get into trouble by playing tentatively and allow the other team to force the play on them. The worse happens when they try to sit back because they don’t have the defence that can shut down the other team and that’s how they allowed CBJ to come back from a 3 goal deficit. When they decided to go all in on offence and with a bit of luck, they were able to come back from a 3 goal deficit.

Momentum seems to dictate the outcome of the game In this series and the best way for the Leafs to grab momentum is to force issues on the other end so to minimize the pressure on their own end. If they can do that consistently through out the game, I like their chances better. That’s playing to their strength, I think.
You make it sound so simple.
You don't think when they were down 1 nothing they were not pushing for offense?
You don't think when they were down 2 nothing they were not pushing for offense?
You think they were only pushing for offense when it was 3 nothing?
Leafs play a possession game. That is their defense. Hence why the 4th line is playing more. They don't score but they keep the puck in the offensive zone.
CBJ play the trap game. That's how they scored their 3rd goal when Foligno stripped the puck from Rielly. You don't think Leafs were pushing for offense there?
You didn't see the 3rd game when CBJ mounted a comeback. Players were thinking offense allowing unnecessary odd man rushes coming back the other way resulting in goals. I can still see Dubois skating up ice with Kapanen chasing him after Dermott pinched trying to keep the puck in for offense.

CBJ is coached to stop the best offensive teams in the league. You forget they took out TB in 4 straight last year? TB the best offensive team in the league at the time. You think CBJ will change their style and trade odd man rushes with the Leafs?

Bottom line is each team has their style of play. It's up to which team plays to their strength better. Which team plays more cohesively. You've already seen when Leafs play their best. It's a very controlled game. Not reckless. They play with speed. Cohesively as a team making good passes to bring the puck up ice and make plays in the offensive zone.
 
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Why did the ref(s) call a penalty in OT when no scoring chance was involved? The game should be decided by the players and not the refs.
 

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Why did the ref(s) call a penalty in OT when no scoring chance was involved? The game should be decided by the players and not the refs.
So the refs should overlook clear infractions just because the game is close?
 

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Dart is saying if no scoring chance then no penalty.
So one can spear a player on the bench since they can't score from there.

Dart may be onto something. Not one penalty for the Hanson brothers since there was no scoring chance.
 
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Flyers beat TB for top seed so that means TB will play winner of Leafs/CBJ. Hedman injured during the game and Stamkos has not played yet due to injury. Werenski injury status unknown.
Imagine a TB/CBJ rematch. Let's not.
Imagine a TB/Tor matchup. They play very similar styles.

Vegas wins top seed in West. They are an amazing team for an expansion. Watching the Vegas Colorado game is all speed. No trap game.
 

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You make it sound so simple.
You don't think when they were down 1 nothing they were not pushing for offense?
You don't think when they were down 2 nothing they were not pushing for offense?
You think they were only pushing for offense when it was 3 nothing?
Leafs play a possession game. That is their defense. Hence why the 4th line is playing more. They don't score but they keep the puck in the offensive zone.
CBJ play the trap game. That's how they scored their 3rd goal when Foligno stripped the puck from Rielly. You don't think Leafs were pushing for offense there?
You didn't see the 3rd game when CBJ mounted a comeback. Players were thinking offense allowing unnecessary odd man rushes coming back the other way resulting in goals. I can still see Dubois skating up ice with Kapanen chasing him after Dermott pinched trying to keep the puck in for offense.

CBJ is coached to stop the best offensive teams in the league. You forget they took out TB in 4 straight last year? TB the best offensive team in the league at the time. You think CBJ will change their style and trade odd man rushes with the Leafs?

Bottom line is each team has their style of play. It's up to which team plays to their strength better. Which team plays more cohesively. You've already seen when Leafs play their best. It's a very controlled game. Not reckless. They play with speed. Cohesively as a team making good passes to bring the puck up ice and make plays in the offensive zone.
I admit that I’ve never coached a hockey game in my life so my opinions are just based on my observations, which lead me to believe that this team seems to play best when they are loose and confident. When they try to play conservatively that’s when they get into trouble.

Whatever different opinions you have are welcome to share, but your arrogance and confrontational attitude are very much on display when you don’t agree with others.
 

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Flyers beat TB for top seed so that means TB will play winner of Leafs/CBJ. Hedman injured during the game and Stamkos has not played yet due to injury. Werenski injury status unknown.
Imagine a TB/CBJ rematch. Let's not.
Imagine a TB/Tor matchup. They play very similar styles.

Vegas wins top seed in West. They are an amazing team for an expansion. Watching the Vegas Colorado game is all speed. No trap game.
I know Tampa is licking their chops at another chance to play Columbus.
 

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I switched over to the Jays game and was playing poker totally pissed off. So with the Jays game in the background, Dan Shulman says "those of you who are also following the Leaf game, the Leafs have come back to tie it". I thought I misheard what he said. Switched back over and couldn't believe my eyes.
When the Leafs need goals, I'm taking a shit. LOL!
 

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The comeback was awesome, but leaving it to a last minute hope and a prayer was bush league. They should have never been in that position and it was just a fluke that Columbus did not score an empty net goal to ice the game. We'll see what they are made of in game 5.
 
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Ok now I feel bad. I know you want Leafs to do well. We all do. Aside from Dart of course.
Not all Leaf fans see things the same way all the time, that makes it interesting to share opinions and debate. I was just hoping that we can keep it in a more relaxed atmosphere and less confrontational, unless it was clearly a trolling situation of-course.
 

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From James Mirtle's article in The Athletic, The Maple Leafs had a 0.15% chance of winning Game 4, with 4 minutes left in the 3rd period. Not a 15% chance, Zero Point One Five.
 

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From James Mirtle's article in The Athletic, The Maple Leafs had a 0.15% chance of winning Game 4, with 4 minutes left in the 3rd period. Not a 15% chance, Zero Point One Five.
The Boston come back against the Leafs was an even lower chance then that. There was an article on that too.
 

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There's quite a lot of debate on social media about the Foligno penalty. A couple of points;
1) The call by the ref was late.
2) Rielly "sold/embellished" the incident.

Here is one comment on Riddit.
"I think Foligno’s reaction pretty justified, but the trip was obvious. He surely was not impressed by the injury sell by Rielly. Sure, it was a really dangerous play, but Rielly really baited like he suffered a severe injury. Foligno chirped directly at Rielly, not the refs. He was probably looking for an embellishment rather than complaining about the clear trip."

Anyway, what's done is done. I just hope the refs let the players decide who wins game 5.
 
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superstar_88

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Not all Leaf fans see things the same way all the time, that makes it interesting to share opinions and debate. I was just hoping that we can keep it in a more relaxed atmosphere and less confrontational, unless it was clearly a trolling situation of-course.
Now this I agree with you. Sorry you interpreted as confrontational.

I keep hearing that Leafs have all this talent. More than any other team in this salary cap league. That they should be able to score at will.
Well, Edmonton who were heavily favoured just got bounced with 2 of the best offensive players in the league by far.
Pitt just got bounced by the lowest seed of 24 teams with Crosby and Malkin who are also superior offensive talents.
 
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