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mellowjello

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Ok. Calm down, little fella.

No one said 'Nylander is crap'. I originally said that Nylander is the guy I'd trade, and offered my reasons why. It was just an opinion, but you and the bully group lost your minds over it. Get a grip, and move on. Such childishness. <smh>

Secondly, I have not questioned Matthews contribution on the ice. What I did muse about out loud was if maybe, just maybe, he's being viewed as a 'me first' guy in the room which could be souring the bench, and as such, they're just hanging back letting him do the heavy lifting alone. It wouldn't be the first time a young superstar had challenges as a leader in the room. He may also have some residual attitude left over from not securing the Captaincy. We don't know what's actually going on in the room, but based on what's happening on the ice, it's clear everyone is not on the same page.

In terms of Darts thread re: Matthews & MVP - I've seen it, but I haven't commented, as there is really no point. The usual suspects are doing exactly what they always do - ganging up, wrecking the discussion, and working hard to bully the guy into silence, else knuckle under to their perspectives. Total BS, but the MODS don't seem to care. Sad, really.
100% on every count.
 

shack

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It was just an opinion, but you and the bully group lost your minds over it. Get a grip, and move on.
Um, this is Toronto. Obviously there will more people in support of their our team. It is a matter of numbers.

What I did muse about out loud was if maybe, just maybe, he's being viewed as a 'me first' guy in the room which could be souring the bench, and as such, they're just hanging back letting him do the heavy lifting alone. It wouldn't be the first time a young superstar had challenges as a leader in the room.
That is some nasty "musing". Bordering on accusations/blame.

In terms of Darts thread re: Matthews & MVP - I've seen it, but I haven't commented, as there is really no point. The usual suspects are doing exactly what they always do - ganging up, wrecking the discussion, and working hard to bully the guy into silence, else knuckle under to their perspectives. Total BS, but the MODS don't seem to care. Sad, really.
As I'd mentioned, you don't see this happening to anyone else. Why? Maybe he should bear some of the blame? Maybe? And was he permanently banned as Rockslinger because he is an angel?
 

John Wick

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Um, this is Toronto. Obviously there will more people in support of their our team. It is a matter of numbers.

That is some nasty "musing". Bordering on accusations/blame.

As I'd mentioned, you don't see this happening to anyone else. Why? Maybe he should bear some of the blame? Maybe? And was he permanently banned as Rockslinger because he is an angel?
1) The 'numbers' don't really matter. What matters is civil discourse. You can be passionate about your team without losing your mind, being a total dick in discussions, and acting like 7 year old bully in the schoolyard.

2) So what if I was musing about a potentially less flattering aspect of Auston Matthews? Who are you, his mommy? Get over yourself. It's supposed to be a fun discussion, not a 24/7 attack mode shit show over a game. Share opinions and let others do the same. You don't need to always have the definitive last word on every point in every thread. Or maybe you do? Grow up.

3) No matter who he is, since when are you and your posse appointed vigilante justice for this board? Regardless of your suspicions, you have no right to perpetually jump down the guy's throat virtually every post he makes. Are you a MOD here? Maybe you are, and just hiding behind your public handle and playing both sides. Why not just ignore the guy's posts if they bother you so much? Not only do you seem incapable of doing so, you actually follow the guy around with your buddies from thread to thread harassing every thought he posts. I would think if the MODS thought he should be gone, he'd be gone. But he's not, so why don't you just move on past his posts - you and your goons are bringing everyone down and killing the fun here.
 

chuckertmg

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not always sure...
The proper strategy with the 3 point structure is to play for the bonus point in OT.
That’s a brilliant strategy - that must be exactly what the Leafs are doing:

Deliberately keeping the game tied and going into overtime so they can maybe get two points,
because those two overtime points are such a huge advantage compared to two points they could get if they won a game in regulation time (??!?!??)
 

bullitt

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Ok. Calm down, little fella.

No one said 'Nylander is crap'. I originally said that Nylander is the guy I'd trade, and offered my reasons why. It was just an opinion, but you and the bully group lost your minds over it. Get a grip, and move on. Such childishness. <smh>

Secondly, I have not questioned Matthews contribution on the ice. What I did muse about out loud was if maybe, just maybe, he's being viewed as a 'me first' guy in the room which could be souring the bench, and as such, they're just hanging back letting him do the heavy lifting alone. It wouldn't be the first time a young superstar had challenges as a leader in the room. He may also have some residual attitude left over from not securing the Captaincy. We don't know what's actually going on in the room, but based on what's happening on the ice, it's clear everyone is not on the same page.

In terms of Darts thread re: Matthews & MVP - I've seen it, but I haven't commented, as there is really no point. The usual suspects are doing exactly what they always do - ganging up, wrecking the discussion, and working hard to bully the guy into silence, else knuckle under to their perspectives. Total BS, but the MODS don't seem to care. Sad, really.
:thumb::thumb:
 

chuckertmg

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not always sure...
1) The 'numbers' don't really matter. What matters is civil discourse. You can be passionate about your team without losing your mind, being a total dick in discussions, and acting like 7 year old bully in the schoolyard.

2) So what if I was musing about a potentially less flattering aspect of Auston Matthews? Who are you, his mommy? Get over yourself. It's supposed to be a fun discussion, not a 24/7 attack mode shit show over a game. Share opinions and let others do the same. You don't need to always have the definitive last word on every point in every thread. Or maybe you do? Grow up.

3) No matter who he is, since when are you and your posse appointed vigilante justice for this board? Regardless of your suspicions, you have no right to perpetually jump down the guy's throat virtually every post he makes. Are you a MOD here? Maybe you are, and just hiding behind your public handle and playing both sides. Why not just ignore the guy's posts if they bother you so much? Not only do you seem incapable of doing so, you actually follow the guy around with your buddies from thread to thread harassing every thought he posts. I would think if the MODS thought he should be gone, he'd be gone. But he's not, so why don't you just move on past his posts - you and your goons are bringing everyone down and killing the fun here.
Yes. 100%.
This post is greatly overdue and much appreciated.
 

superstar_88

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That’s a brilliant strategy - that must be exactly what the Leafs are doing:

Deliberately keeping the game tied and going into overtime so they can maybe get two points,
because those two overtime points are such a huge advantage compared to two points they could get if they won a game in regulation time (??!?!??)
Ok so you're saying you have no brains. You would pull the goalie in a tie game to try to try to win it in regulation because you don't want to take the chance of losing in overtime.
If the two teams had their way they would skate around in the neutral zone for 3 periods and just play overtime. You on the other hand would rather play a 2 point game rather than a 3 point game. Expected value of a 3 point game is 1.5 pts. Expected value of a 2 point game is 1 point
1.5 is better than 1. You obviously failed math.
 

superstar_88

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Wicky, you've been trolling me since you joined the board. You clearly think "taking on the big boys" is the key to being the Man of TERB.

I don't like you, but usually I ignore you. But it's a bit much when you rant about being bullied.

You've been on the board for 5 months and you've gone out of your way to piss people off and make enemies. This is clearly your personality.

You're doing in this thread what you love. Being divisive. Causing chaos. Getting dudes to fight. Hijacking the thread. The usual John Wick stuff.

I've essentially stopped posting in this thread because of the amount of crap here.
Wicky got busted
 

smuddan

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Hope I don’t get caught in the crossfire by posting lol.

There are talks of Leafs going after either Dumba or Manson and the cost may be Nylander. I doubt Kapanen or Johnsson will be enough. I don’t think Dubas wants to trade Nylander but he seems to be logical choice. Would you do the deal ?
 

shack

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Hope I don’t get caught in the crossfire by posting lol.

There are talks of Leafs going after either Dumba or Manson and the cost may be Nylander. I doubt Kapanen or Johnsson will be enough. I don’t think Dubas wants to trade Nylander but he seems to be logical choice. Would you do the deal ?
I think Leafs still have hopes of getting hot at the right time and making a playoff run. As such, I can't see them trading Nylander before the end of the season. Johnsson is injured. Kapanen and juicy draft pick? Leafs are still a very young team.
 

jcpro

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Can we panic, yet? However, it does look like that Babcock was not the problem.
 

Insidious Von

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Leafs defense is in shambles, you have a problem when you recall Marincin.

Maybe I shouldn't....

 

John Wick

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Can we panic, yet? However, it does look like that Babcock was not the problem.
That was a pretty brutal game overall. It really says something when your second best player on the ice behind Matthews was Jason Spezza. Andersen was hung out to dry and must be getting wicked frustrated. Not quite time to panic yet if they can swing a couple significant trades before the deadline. If not, I think its time to stick a fork in it.
 

mellowjello

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Leafs defense is in shambles, you have a problem when you recall Marincin.
That's the canary in the coalmine.
I hope they don't make a move just to get into the playoffs, it won't solve the core problems.

Leafs have been used to playing shinny hockey, it's difficult to implement a structure at this point that goes against a philosophy they've had for a few years now.
They need to change some personnel and Keefe needs an opportunity to shape them from training camp.
They're defence is lacking but I think the team concept of defence is the real problem.
Whoever doesn't buy into the team concept for the sake of just scoring goals can get shipped out.
Not everyone is cut to be a full two way player, but everyone's gotta do their part.
 

John Wick

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They're defence is lacking but I think the team concept of defence is the real problem.
Very much agree with this. In all four goals Crosby was involved in, it seemed that all Leaf players on the ice in each instance were simply in 'reaction mode' and not really engaged in or dedicated to playing within a structured defensive system. Because all eyes were on Crosby and watching what he might do instead of playing sound positional and systemic defence, he was able to get them running around willy-nilly all over their own zone. Looked like men playing with a disorganized peewee hockey team at times.
 

saxon

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Leafs swap Marchment for Panthers Malgin. Johnsson out 6 months following surgery.
 

bullitt

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That's the canary in the coalmine.
I hope they don't make a move just to get into the playoffs, it won't solve the core problems.

Leafs have been used to playing shinny hockey, it's difficult to implement a structure at this point that goes against a philosophy they've had for a few years now.
They need to change some personnel and Keefe needs an opportunity to shape them from training camp.
They're defence is lacking but I think the team concept of defence is the real problem.
Whoever doesn't buy into the team concept for the sake of just scoring goals can get shipped out.
Not everyone is cut to be a full two way player, but everyone's gotta do their part.
totally agree. they only have 2 or 3 players that are willing to work EVERY night. where is marner johnny t been lately? someone on that team needs to set some of these guys straight.
 

shack

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EVERY night. where is johnny t been lately?
Not getting results but Tavares' calling card is the consistent, professional effort he puts into every shift, game and practice. No one questions his work ethic.
 

oral.com

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They are a tire fire in their own end. Their defensive positioning is undisciplined. They are consistently late to the puck. They are easily beaten on the forecheck. Let’s not even go to the penalty kill. I predicted that Keefe would give the Leafs a little charge but this team is not built for the playoffs. It is more of the same, the wheels come off second half of the season.

And I have no constructive answer to this dilemma, is it something as simple as poor conditioning?
 

bullitt

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i agree. johnny t can play on my team anytime, but he is captain of this club, he needs to motivate some of these players, he shouldnt have to, but there lies the dilemma. ive said it before waaay too much money for some of these players.
 
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