Anything not to do with the Leafs he'll talk about in the Leafs thread. Anything to do with the Leafs he'll start his own thread.
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I don’t have an issue with eliminating the “loser point” as long as the game is decided by a continuation of the game, just as baseball, basketball or football do. I just don’t think it’s right to award any point(s) for winning a skill contest. I don’t have problem with penalty shot during the game as it is part of the game but imo shootouts only belong to all star games.
For the record, you agreed with smuddan and all I did was point that overtime in the NFL starts with a coin toss (unlike baseball and basketball).I'm all with you.
For the record, you agreed with smuddan and all I did was point that overtime in the NFL starts with a coin toss (unlike baseball and basketball).
post 418As far as I’m concerned they should just scrap the shootout and play 3 on 3. If still tied after 5 mins then each team takes turn for 2 mins 4 on 3 until one team wins. I’d like to see the game decided on team play rather on a skill contest. A lot of people criticize the “loser point” but I think that’s more legit than a “shootout point” as you should be rewarded for having played tied after regulation.
post 419Which is different than football, baseball or basketball. Just saying.
post 420Having the final outcome decided by a skill contest is also different than the major sports you mentioned.
post 421How it is determined is one thing and can be changed. I was referring to the part about how a team that gets past regulation deserves something and pointed out how that is not the case in the other three major team sports in N.A. and nobody seems to have an issue with that.
For the record, I mentioned football first along with the other major team sports only as a comparison with sports that give nothing for losing in overtime, unlike hockey. And we agreed that it should not be a skills competition. You wondering about the outcome of a coin flip had nothing to do with either of those points. The sport we were talking about was hockey.
You agreed that it should not be a skills competition and my point is that it also not be determined by a coin flip.post 418
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For the record, I mentioned football first along with the other major team sports only as a comparison with sports that give nothing for losing in overtime, unlike hockey. And we agreed that it should not be a skills competition. You wondering about the outcome of a coin flip had nothing to do with either of those points. The sport we were talking about was hockey.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ules-unfair-and-need-fixed-league/2821929001/
https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-NFL-overtime-rule-fair
Once you mention football it is only reasonable for other members to say what they think of the overtime rule. Read the articles in the link above.
Mentioning a word does not give someone carte blanche to pontificate. Sorry. Ice hockey does not open a discussion about polar ice caps.You agreed that it should not be a skills competition and my point is that it also not be determined by a coin flip.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ules-unfair-and-need-fixed-league/2821929001/
Once you mention football it is only reasonable for other members to say what they think of the overtime rule. Read the article in the link above.
You're the only one talking about ice caps.Mentioning a word does not give someone carte blanche to pontificate. Sorry. Ice hockey does not open a discussion about polar ice caps.
That was brutal. This team has major issues right now. Something equally major is going to have to happen if they are going to even come close to making the playoffs. Seems on any given night only 2-3 guys are putting in a consistent effort from start to finish. I'm beginning to wonder if there could be a real sour apple somewhere in the room, and if that sour apple could be Matthews? If so, God help em'....
I get it. Nylander is crap and now so is Matthews.
It's Andersen. When the Leafs do well it's Andersen who covers up for the Leafs defensive deficiencies. Rielly is not a defensive stalwart but he's still their best defenseman. Even at full strength at defense that top 6 scares no one. Their problems is not with Matthews. Where do you come up with this stuff?
You seldem hear chants of Freddy Freddy nowadays. That tells you all you need to know. Ceci is scary on defense but he still kills penalties and Buffalo's 3rd goal was on the PP.
You obviously missed Dart's new thread on Matthews being MVP. Are you saying Dart is a clown?
Campbell Leaf's backup has played 4 games and 7 pts for the Leafs. What's the common denominator here? Goaltending.
It's Andersen. When the Leafs do well it's Andersen who covers up for the Leafs defensive deficiencies. Rielly is not a defensive stalwart but he's still their best defenseman. Even at full strength at defense that top 6 scares no one. Their problems is not with Matthews. Where do you come up with this stuff?
You seldem hear chants of Freddy Freddy nowadays. That tells you all you need to know. Ceci is scary on defense but he still kills penalties and Buffalo's 3rd goal was on the PP.
You obviously missed Dart's new thread on Matthews being MVP. Are you saying Dart is a clown?
Campbell Leaf's backup has played 4 games and 7 pts for the Leafs. What's the common denominator here? Goaltending.
They’ve played 9 games in February and only have 1 win in regulation time.That was brutal. This team has major issues right now. Something equally major is going to have to happen if they are going to even come close to making the playoffs.
Luckily they’re in the Atlantic Division so they can play .500 hockey the last half of the year and probably still finish 3rd - it’s shaping up very similar to last year with no one chasing them from the bottom 5 teams.
Regulation wins vs overtime wins is irrelevant. Unless the other team is competition for playoff position. The proper strategy with the 3 point structure is to play for the bonus point in OT. Boston is using this to perfection. TB has more overall wins than Boston but Boston has more points than TB
If the Leafs don't finish 3rd in the Atlantic, then they are in a dogfight for the wild card competing against teams like Columbus, Carolina, Philadelphia and maybe Pittsburgh and/or Islanders.Luckily they’re in the Atlantic Division so they can play .500 hockey the last half of the year and probably still finish 3rd - it’s shaping up very similar to last year with no one chasing them from the bottom 5 teams.
Is jack Campbell really as good as he has been? Time will tell.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/jack-campbell-maple-leafs-1.5461422
I started the Matthews thread to provoke an intelligent, rational and civilized debate. Do you even understand what intelligent, rational and civilized mean?You obviously missed Dart's new thread on Matthews being MVP. Are you saying Dart is a clown?
John Wick's posts are intelligent, rational and civilized whether I agree or disagree with his POV. Also, no hysteria like you and your two BFF's.
Brilliant....I get it. Nylander is crap and now so is Matthews.
It's Andersen. When the Leafs do well it's Andersen who covers up for the Leafs defensive deficiencies. Rielly is not a defensive stalwart but he's still their best defenseman. Even at full strength at defense that top 6 scares no one. Their problems is not with Matthews. Where do you come up with this stuff?
You seldem hear chants of Freddy Freddy nowadays. That tells you all you need to know. Ceci is scary on defense but he still kills penalties and Buffalo's 3rd goal was on the PP.
You obviously missed Dart's new thread on Matthews being MVP. Are you saying Dart is a clown?
Campbell Leaf's backup has played 4 games and 7 pts for the Leafs. What's the common denominator here? Goaltending.
It's worse when a team loses because of a coin toss.I just don’t think it’s right to award any point(s) for winning a skill contest.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ue/2821929001/
https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-NFL-overtime-rule-fair
Please do not downplay the number of people you've made an impression upon.Also, no hysteria like you and your two BFF's.
There are at least 8 now. Your influence is spreading. Seeing as you bring up the BFFs a couple of times a day, that clearly indicates that you don't like it and understandably so.
What's that saying? If you keep doing what you've been doing, you will keep getting what you've been getting.
I've never seen a coin toss in a hockey game?It's worse when a team loses because of a coin toss.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ue/2821929001/
https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-NFL-overtime-rule-fair
Ok. Calm down, little fella.I get it. Nylander is crap and now so is Matthews.
It's Andersen. When the Leafs do well it's Andersen who covers up for the Leafs defensive deficiencies. Rielly is not a defensive stalwart but he's still their best defenseman. Even at full strength at defense that top 6 scares no one. Their problems is not with Matthews. Where do you come up with this stuff?
You seldem hear chants of Freddy Freddy nowadays. That tells you all you need to know. Ceci is scary on defense but he still kills penalties and Buffalo's 3rd goal was on the PP.
You obviously missed Dart's new thread on Matthews being MVP. Are you saying Dart is a clown?
Campbell Leaf's backup has played 4 games and 7 pts for the Leafs. What's the common denominator here? Goaltending.
No one said 'Nylander is crap'. I originally said that Nylander is the guy I'd trade, and offered my reasons why. It was just an opinion, but you and the bully group lost your minds over it. Get a grip, and move on. Such childishness. <smh>
Secondly, I have not questioned Matthews contribution on the ice. What I did muse about out loud was if maybe, just maybe, he's being viewed as a 'me first' guy in the room which could be souring the bench, and as such, they're just hanging back letting him do the heavy lifting alone. It wouldn't be the first time a young superstar had challenges as a leader in the room. He may also have some residual attitude left over from not securing the Captaincy. We don't know what's actually going on in the room, but based on what's happening on the ice, it's clear everyone is not on the same page.
In terms of Darts thread re: Matthews & MVP - I've seen it, but I haven't commented, as there is really no point. The usual suspects are doing exactly what they always do - ganging up, wrecking the discussion, and working hard to bully the guy into silence, else knuckle under to their perspectives. Total BS, but the MODS don't seem to care. Sad, really.
