It doesn't shield Trudeau from what happened. Was this intentional? Heck No...I don't think JT or Pee pee wanted this to happen....but it happened... it isn't because there is some sort of nefarious intent...shines light on the incompetence...but of course you don't see this....NGY, do some basic reading please.
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Your argument was about what " they see".They definitely should. This was not just about optics.
And holding Trudeau accountable, is how leadership works.
Even if he wasn't responsible and the Speaker is independent of any party?Both are important. What is right or wrong is important. How other countries view Canada is also important. I was using "what they see" to stress the point that the PM is responsible for representing Canada and therefore should take responsibility for the mistake.
Who cares about the Speakers officeWhy is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?
Richie, you don't just "round people up". You need proof.JT finally folded...he knew
You don't think Nazi's shouldn't pay for the atrocities they commited 80 years ago? Let's round up all the neo Nazis you know and have evidence and put them in jail...why isn't Trudeau doing anything about 'em?
just because you belong to 'Suck Trudeau" group doesn't mean that most normal people are not pissed at what happened and that out prince is diverting the blame that squarely falls on himHow long are you guys gonna run with this?
A mistake was made. Apologies were given. Let's face it..... All of you geniuses would have made exactly the same mistake, right? You knew nothing about this issue before The Sun figured it out for you.
Probably just me, Xmontrealer and maybe Dcotor would have guessed what the guy's background is.
And hey - geniuses!!! - read that Wiki article. The Canadian government gave the 14 SS Division a clean bill of health 50 years ago. They're going to do fuck now. Neither would the Tories.
You know what's REALLY important??!!..... The Trump fraud trial in New York.
And no. No one's going to extradite a 98 year old. Hate Nazis all you want. But the old fucker's 98 years old. It ain't going to happen. And no one would trust the Polish government to do a fair prosecution in any event. Plus all the witnesses are long dead.
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Which foreign dignitary are you talking about?Who cares about the Speakers office
He invited the guy to attend but it was Trudeau's and Liberals responsibility to check everybody that was on the list of invited people!
It's not the Speaker who is suppose to provide security for a foreign dignitary in Canadian Parliament, it's the party in power and the prim minister and every security department that's involved
Liberal followers are such dimwits that it's enough to tell them "The Speaker did it" and they believe it blindly.
The speaker issued the invitation, the goverment suppose to check everybody before they were allowed to enter
That's not an answer, which foreign dignitary are you talking about?
Oh, I thought you were referring to Hunka.
Yes, facts are irrelevant to foreign hackers.Irrelevant.
Was it Trudeau that invited him, how do you know?That is again irrelevant to this particular discussion of Trudeau being responsible for inviting a Nazi to the parliament.
Because you're more concerned about optics and how it reflects on Canada,This is an official event, hosting a world leader, who is currently engaged in war and Canada's official position is to support NATO, Ukraine and the war effort. The war effort is being undermined by Russian propaganda of denazification of Ukraine.
And then a Ukrainian guy, who served in the Waffen SS shows up in the parliament, and Zelensky and Trudeau and everyone is pictured clapping and giving the guy a standing ovation.
Why does Trudeau have to invite him and why does the guy have to be any sort of villainous character? The guy could have just strolled into the parliament, or crawled through the air duct and fell into the chamber. That does not matter. If it reflects badly on Canada, Trudeau is automatically responsible. That is how leadership works.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
I can't believe that's true. Imagine if the ruling party had final say in who was allowed to speak in or visit Parliament? The outrage we would have been hearing over the years anytime the opposition or a minority party had a guest denied would've been deafening.He invited the guy to attend but it was Trudeau's and Liberals responsibility to check everybody that was on the list of invited people!