Mr. Trudeau Going Full Adolph

[JuanGoodman]

Which foreign dignitary are you talking about?

 

[mellowjello]

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That's not an answer, which foreign dignitary are you talking about?

 

[JuanGoodman]

That's not an answer, which foreign dignitary are you talking about?

 

[mellowjello]

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Oh, I thought you were referring to Hunka.

 

[Frankfooter]

Irrelevant.

Yes, facts are irrelevant to foreign hackers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cyberattacks-parliament-india-1.6981399

 

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1707426256310894665

 

[mellowjello]

That is again irrelevant to this particular discussion of Trudeau being responsible for inviting a Nazi to the parliament.

Was it Trudeau that invited him, how do you know?
And what do you mean by Nazi, like Goebbels or Himmler? Was he a high ranking officer who bought into the whole thing and
worked towards a superior race, a Nazi who was intent on killing Jews, or some guy that joined a Nazi outfit to fight for Ukrainian independence
from Russians who were responsible for the death of millions and millions of Ukrainians.
What kind of Nazi was he, or does it matter because you just want to bury Trudeau?

 

[mellowjello]

This is an official event, hosting a world leader, who is currently engaged in war and Canada's official position is to support NATO, Ukraine and the war effort. The war effort is being undermined by Russian propaganda of denazification of Ukraine.

And then a Ukrainian guy, who served in the Waffen SS shows up in the parliament, and Zelensky and Trudeau and everyone is pictured clapping and giving the guy a standing ovation.

Why does Trudeau have to invite him and why does the guy have to be any sort of villainous character? The guy could have just strolled into the parliament, or crawled through the air duct and fell into the chamber. That does not matter. If it reflects badly on Canada, Trudeau is automatically responsible. That is how leadership works.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Because you're more concerned about optics and how it reflects on Canada,
and because you can't or won't try to grasp why he would have joined that unit.
What is so difficult to understand that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
He joined an outfit that allowed him to fight against a dominating power that controlled his country and killed millions and millions of Ukrainians.
Does it matter to you that he may in fact have been a hero for fighting a brutal oppressor, or context doesn't matter?
What's so difficult to understand?
So again, what kind of Nazi was he?
You say it's not about optics, but all your writing culminates to that.

According to you, every American that trained Bin Laden and al-Qaeda and helped fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan are terrorists, and whoever the President was should pay the price.
Were all Italian soldiers Nazis because they allied with Germany at the beginning of the war?
And how do you know that Trudeau invited him, I don't know if he did or not, how do you know?

 

[DesRicardo]

The issue is they assisted in the killing of jews.

 

[DinkleMouse]

He invited the guy to attend but it was Trudeau's and Liberals responsibility to check everybody that was on the list of invited people!

I can't believe that's true. Imagine if the ruling party had final say in who was allowed to speak in or visit Parliament? The outrage we would have been hearing over the years anytime the opposition or a minority party had a guest denied would've been deafening.

I have no experience in parliamentary security, but I just can't believe that's true. It must be a bipartisan or unaffiliated group of some kind. But didn't PP say he didn't think Hunka was a security threat? So on what grounds would be be denied? It's not up to whoever is in charge of security to evaluate correctness or morality, merely security.

I'm not saying Trudeau wouldn't carry some, or even most, of the blame. But facts matter, and I'd love to know what they are including whether the ruling government has final official responsibility for vetting guests.

 

[mellowjello]

It does not matter what kind of Nazi he was. This isn't about Hunka and his motivations. I am not sure why you are on that tangent.

I know, it's about labels and optics and drilling Trudeau.

 

[Frankfooter]

That is again irrelevant to this particular discussion of Trudeau being responsible for inviting a Nazi to the parliament.

You are pushing disinformation.
Trudeau was not responsible for inviting this guy accused of being a Nazi.

Please stop "throwing something without any prove,"

 

[Frankfooter]

Why does Trudeau have to invite him

Trudeau didn't invite him.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

 

[Not getting younger]

He joined an outfit that allowed him to fight against a dominating power that controlled his country and killed millions and millions of Ukrainians.

1) What does that matter in the world of diplomacy. When world “leaders” are on center stage.

2) You know that how? Your his best friend of life? You were fighting beside him, when he joined?

And while trying to find excuses for JT, in our undying and unwavering support and defense. Let’s all overlook the fact, he lied, snuck into Canada, and hid for 75 years. Such a stand up hero that he was.

 

[mellowjello]

1) What does that matter in the world of diplomacy. When world “leaders” are on center stage.

2) You know that how? Your his best friend of life? You were fighting beside him, when he joined?

And while trying to find excuses for JT, in our undying and unwavering support and defense. Let’s all overlook the fact, he lied, snuck into Canada, and hid for 75 years. Such a stand up hero that he was.

Yea, that's right, I'm his best friend for life....grow up.
What, he joined the unit to kill Jews?
Keep foaming at the mouth, great way to understand the world around you.

 

[Not getting younger]

Yea, that's right, I'm his best friend for life....grow up.
What, he joined the unit to kill Jews?
Keep foaming at the mouth, grea

Point being. Which apparently you missed. How do you know why he joined?

If pointing that out, and shooting me makes you feel better. Knock yourself out.

 

[mellowjello]

Point being. Which apparently you missed. How do you know why he joined?

If pointing that out, and shooting me makes you feel better. Knock yourself out.

That's my point, how do you know why he joined. I think under the circumstances of where he came from, it's more than reasonable to presume he joined for reasons I gave rather than the reasons you haven't given.
Or is it that you don't care what happened to anyone else other than Jews?
I think my perspective is pretty reasonable, which is he joined because he wanted to fight against the Soviets who killed millions of Ukrainians, like him.
What's yours?

 

[Not getting younger]

I’m not or wasn’t the one that made a pretty bold assertion as to why he joined.

Am I?
I have no idea, what his personal motives were. All I know. Is that after the war, he felt he had to hide under the radar in Canada.

 

[richaceg]

Richie, you don't just "round people up". You need proof.

This shit happened 80 years ago. All the witnesses have died of old age.

is he a nazi or not...your friend franky is the one claiming there are a lot of neo nazi in Canada that the conservatives are in bed with...he sounds like he has proof...

 

[mellowjello]

I’m not or wasn’t the one that made a pretty bold assertion as to why he joined.

Am I?

I didn't make a bold assertion, I made a reasonable one.
You must have a perspective or you wouldn't be foaming at the mouth over this.
What's your assertion?