So what's the purpose of Trudeau giving an apology? just to appease the opposition? That's not like him...
Mr. Trudeau Going Full Adolph
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Why is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?
I get what you're saying, but I don't think the optics in Cambodia or anywhere else should override our own process for fairly holding people accountable.I will never understand why people make these "technical" arguments. This is a cop out.
When someone from lets say, Cambodia, sees this, what do you think they see or think? They see that "Canada invited a Nazi to the Parliament". That is what they see. Who represents Canada ? Its Trudeau. Not the speaker.
How the speaker's office works, therefore, is irrelevant.
NGY, do some basic reading please.
Speaker of the House of Commons (Canada) - Wikipedia
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It doesn't shield Trudeau from what happened. Was this intentional? Heck No...I don't think JT or Pee pee wanted this to happen....but it happened... it isn't because there is some sort of nefarious intent...shines light on the incompetence...but of course you don't see this....NGY, do some basic reading please.
.Speaker of the House of Commons (Canada) - Wikipedia
Your argument was about what " they see".
If it's about absolute right or wrong and culpability, what anyone sees from outside our country is irrelevant.
Richie, you don't just "round people up". You need proof.
This shit happened 80 years ago. All the witnesses have died of old age.
How long are you guys gonna run with this?
A mistake was made. Apologies were given. Let's face it..... All of you geniuses would have made exactly the same mistake, right? You knew nothing about this issue before The Sun figured it out for you.
Probably just me, Xmontrealer and maybe Dcotor would have guessed what the guy's background is.
And hey - geniuses!!! - read that Wiki article. The Canadian government gave the 14 SS Division a clean bill of health 50 years ago. They're going to do fuck now. Neither would the Tories.
You know what's REALLY important??!!..... The Trump fraud trial in New York.
And no. No one's going to extradite a 98 year old. Hate Nazis all you want. But the old fucker's 98 years old. It ain't going to happen. And no one would trust the Polish government to do a fair prosecution in any event. Plus all the witnesses are long dead.
I'm going to count how many pages you guys have your "Fuck Trudeau!" fest on this one!!!
A mistake was made. Apologies were given. Let's face it..... All of you geniuses would have made exactly the same mistake, right? You knew nothing about this issue before The Sun figured it out for you.
Probably just me, Xmontrealer and maybe Dcotor would have guessed what the guy's background is.
And hey - geniuses!!! - read that Wiki article. The Canadian government gave the 14 SS Division a clean bill of health 50 years ago. They're going to do fuck now. Neither would the Tories.
You know what's REALLY important??!!..... The Trump fraud trial in New York.
And no. No one's going to extradite a 98 year old. Hate Nazis all you want. But the old fucker's 98 years old. It ain't going to happen. And no one would trust the Polish government to do a fair prosecution in any event. Plus all the witnesses are long dead.
I'm going to count how many pages you guys have your "Fuck Trudeau!" fest on this one!!!
Yes, facts are irrelevant to foreign hackers.
Was it Trudeau that invited him, how do you know?
And what do you mean by Nazi, like Goebbels or Himmler? Was he a high ranking officer who bought into the whole thing and
worked towards a superior race, a Nazi who was intent on killing Jews, or some guy that joined a Nazi outfit to fight for Ukrainian independence
from Russians who were responsible for the death of millions and millions of Ukrainians.
What kind of Nazi was he, or does it matter because you just want to bury Trudeau?
Because you're more concerned about optics and how it reflects on Canada,
and because you can't or won't try to grasp why he would have joined that unit.
What is so difficult to understand that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
He joined an outfit that allowed him to fight against a dominating power that controlled his country and killed millions and millions of Ukrainians.
Does it matter to you that he may in fact have been a hero for fighting a brutal oppressor, or context doesn't matter?
What's so difficult to understand?
So again, what kind of Nazi was he?
You say it's not about optics, but all your writing culminates to that.
According to you, every American that trained Bin Laden and al-Qaeda and helped fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan are terrorists, and whoever the President was should pay the price.
Were all Italian soldiers Nazis because they allied with Germany at the beginning of the war?
And how do you know that Trudeau invited him, I don't know if he did or not, how do you know?
I can't believe that's true. Imagine if the ruling party had final say in who was allowed to speak in or visit Parliament? The outrage we would have been hearing over the years anytime the opposition or a minority party had a guest denied would've been deafening.
I have no experience in parliamentary security, but I just can't believe that's true. It must be a bipartisan or unaffiliated group of some kind. But didn't PP say he didn't think Hunka was a security threat? So on what grounds would be be denied? It's not up to whoever is in charge of security to evaluate correctness or morality, merely security.
I'm not saying Trudeau wouldn't carry some, or even most, of the blame. But facts matter, and I'd love to know what they are including whether the ruling government has final official responsibility for vetting guests.
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