Like I said, this is a total mess....it includes everybody including the conservatives...Yes Frank is consistent in that way. He always supports the liberal position so you know what you are getting when you engage Frank.
Mr. Trudeau Going Full Adolph
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Evidence is important. When a naked man is chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, maybe he is out collecting for the Red Cross, or maybe he identifies as a Red Cross canvasser. You can't go around making assumptions.Coming from a guy who not so long ago said...
"there is no proof he's a terrorist and even if there is...bla bla bla"....I commend you for at least being consistent....Nazi associated with Zelensky and JT - Good...other Nazis bad...
Also when it comes to Hitler I listen to the vandals
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I don't know the Topp story but it's very hard for me to overlook how he went all Typhoid Mary and backed up Schmucks with Trucks. It's bad enough he doesn't accept freedom from speech, but for that cause.
well according to franky even if there is proof of terrorism, they shouldn't expect retribution and should feel safe in Canada....Evidence is important. When a naked man is chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, maybe he is out collecting for the Red Cross, or maybe he identifies as a Red Cross canvasser. You can't go around making assumptions.
Also when it comes to Hitler I listen to the vandals
Hitler Bad, Vandals Good - Wikipedia
That's just stupid partisanship.
According to rich, 98 year old Nazi vets are more of a threat to Canada than active neo Nazis and Nazis.
Canada’s honoring of Nazi vet exposes Ottawa’s longstanding Ukraine policy - The Grayzone
By celebrating a Waffen-SS volunteer as a "hero," Canada's Liberal Party highlighted a longstanding policy that has seen Ottawa train fascist militants in Ukraine while welcoming in thousands of post-war Nazi SS veterans. Canada's second most powerful official, Chrystia Freeland, is the...
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On March 7, 2017, the Globe and Mail reported on a 1996 article in the Journal of Ukrainian Studies confirming that Freeland’s grandfather had indeed been a Nazi propagandist, and that his writing helped fuel the Jewish genocide. The article was authored by Freeland’s uncle, John-Paul Himka, who thanked his niece in its preface for helping him with “problems and clarifications.”
“Freeland knew for more than two decades that her maternal Ukrainian grandfather was the chief editor of a Nazi newspaper in occupied Poland that vilified Jews during the Second World War,” the Globe and Mail noted. After being caught on camera this September clapping with unrestrained zeal alongside hundreds of peers for a Ukrainian veteran of Hitler’s SS death squads, Freeland once again invoked her authority to scrub the incident from the record.
Three days after the embarrassing scene, Freeland was back on the floor of parliament, nodding in approval as Liberal House leader Karina Gould introduced a resolution to strike “from the appendix of the House of Commons debates” and from “any House multimedia recording” the recognition made by Speaker Anthony Rota of Yaroslav Hunka.
The speaker doesn't work for the PM.
JT is not his boss.
To argues so is factually wrong.
If you're doing that as an immigrant who is unfamiliar with Canada that's ok, if you're doing that knowing you are wrong its a stupid partisan attack.
If you don't know the Canadian system, stay out of the debate or keep your opinion to yourself until you understand it.
Pushing disinformation is how the conservative party gets its voters behind them.
Some people understand leadership, and some don’t. Kind of telling both in the house, here, and the electorate.
Nor do some understand how embarrassing this is, for Canada on the world stage.
Some people don't understand how government works and that all parties vote on the speaker, who does not act on behalf of a party or the PM.
Then they repeat direct lies from the party that pushes disinformation and are stunned when they find out how things really work.
How clueless is Franky?
I suppose that explains and excuses the world laughing at us, at the liberals, at JT, at you, for your undying and unwavering support.
All the headlines in the world, are pointing the finger at Rota. Not!! Franky and die hard liberals here are right, the world is wrong. Again, a simple answer. “Forest for the trees”
Try to find another excuse will you, for not grasping what it means to be a leader, never mind a head of state.
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Calling Anthony Rota an independent is like calling Andrew Scheer an independent when he was speaker.
JT finally folded...he knew
You don't think Nazi's shouldn't pay for the atrocities they commited 80 years ago? Let's round up all the neo Nazis you know and have evidence and put them in jail...why isn't Trudeau doing anything about 'em?
Well I guess what he really means is Putins assertions about Ukrainian nazis is NOT propaganda, and we have seen it, all the nazi worship. marches. commemorations of Bandera. the Azov batallion.
Well telling another out and out lie is not helpful. The Speakers office is autonomous and non-partisan. The speaker was elected by parliament and the Libs do not have a majority. So Parliament elected him, and he represents parliament. So blaming the house leader for this is stupid and decitful.
So what's the purpose of Trudeau giving an apology? just to appease the opposition? That's not like him...
Why is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?
I get what you're saying, but I don't think the optics in Cambodia or anywhere else should override our own process for fairly holding people accountable.I will never understand why people make these "technical" arguments. This is a cop out.
When someone from lets say, Cambodia, sees this, what do you think they see or think? They see that "Canada invited a Nazi to the Parliament". That is what they see. Who represents Canada ? Its Trudeau. Not the speaker.
How the speaker's office works, therefore, is irrelevant.
NGY, do some basic reading please.
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