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Leafs traded for Bernier, what do you think?

Ironhead

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I hear Komarov may be headed back to the KHL.
I hope it is just a negotiation ploy to get as much money as he can. I know he is not a top six forward, but I like his style of play.
 

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I hear Komarov may be headed back to the KHL.
I hope it is just a negotiation ploy to get as much money as he can. I know he is not a top six forward, but I like his style of play.
Komarov left the Leafs this year to play in KHL, signing a contract already. He tweeted that he thanks the team and the fan for a fun year, but for personal reason he feels he has to stay in Russia next season. He also express his willingness to come back when the conditions are right for him.
 
Here are the unsigned as of today(June 26) according to CapGeek.

Kadri(RFA)
Komarov(RFA)
Colborne(RFA)
McLaren(RFA)
MacArthur(FA)
Bozak(FA)

Gunnarsson(RFA)
Franzen(RFA)
Frasier(RFA)
O'Bryne(FA)
Kostka(FA)

Bernier(RFA)
Out of that group I think Kadri, McLaren, Fransen and Bernier should be priorities. The rest, only if the price is attractive. I do expect Gunnarsson to be better next year. Don't think he was at 100 percent. Other thoughts?
 

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What do you expect to get for Phaneuf ? / What do you consider fair ?
Mahovlich has brought down DP's trade value with all of his negative rants on the guy.
 

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Here is Chicago's first goal scored by Toews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_vFoNItsE

No fluky rebounds or anything. Toews simply crosses the blueline and fires the puck through the five hole from the faceoff spot. Bit of a soft goal in my opinion.



Bickell's tying goal with just over a minute remaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfnZ06f6CgA

I did not see any kind of unusual bounce. Puck came from behind the net, right through Chara, in front to a waiting Bickell for the easy tap in.
I was comparing Rask to Reimer and their overall rebound control in both regular and post season play. Rask in my opinion is far superior to Reimer when it comes to rebounds.

You simply pointed out two goals against Rask. If you look at the first, it was a 2 on 1 and Toews had both an option to pass and shoot. I suspect Rask was thinking he would pass which is why he didn't commit 100% to Toews and thus a little slow in closing the five hole. Quick release and a perfect shot = goal.

Seriously, Rask or any other goalie had no chance Bickell's tying goal.

This is one one of the fluky bounces I was talking about. Rask had no chance on the deflection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Thi-BEzc8

Don't get me wrong, I like Reimer but if I had a choice, I'd take Rask in a heartbeat.
 
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sasemohan123

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Reimer has spoken just as classy and level-headed as I have expected:

"Obviously you had emotions when you first heard it," he explained of his initial reaction to the deal , "but at the same time when you take a step back and after a while you realize that it's going to push you, it's going to make you a better person and a better goalie and if that happens well then it's great for me, it's going to be great for Bernier and it's going to be, most importantly, great for the Leafs." (Jonas Seigel)
 

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Don't we have the same problem as VC had only a smaller version. :confused:
Bernier wanted out of LA because he want to be a starter, if Riemer out shines him and he is a back up again will he be pisses about it or if they are both outstanding, what does Carlyle do.
The leafs would have been better of going for a more experienced back up to mentor and tutor Reimer.IMO
 

Ironhead

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That's the first thing I noticed when I looked at the differences between Rask and Reimer. Rask rarely lets out a bad rebound. In fact in the last two games of the playoffs, it took fluky bounces to get a couple by him. Reimer is good, but not in the same league as other top goalies.
I was comparing Rask to Reimer and their overall rebound control in both regular and post season play. Rask in my opinion is far superior to Reimer when it comes to rebounds.

You simply pointed out two goals against Rask. If you look at the first, it was a 2 on 1 and Toews had both an option to pass and shoot. I suspect Rask was thinking he would pass which is why he didn't commit 100% to Toews and thus a little slow in closing the five hole. Quick release and a perfect shot = goal.

Seriously, Rask or any other goalie had no chance Bickell's tying goal.

This is one one of the fluky bounces I was talking about. Rask had no chance on the deflection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Thi-BEzc8

Don't get me wrong, I like Reimer but if I had a choice, I'd take Rask in a heartbeat.
As you can see, you said it took fluky bounces to get pucks past him.
I showed the Chicago goals from game six, no fluky anything.
Regardless of an opinion on Reimer, I do not see Rask to be as good as people make him out to be.
 

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With only one game under the Leaf's jersey, Bernier has me convinced: we found an amazing goalie and the best thing is he has so much upside to him, I'm ecstatic at the thought of seeing more of him in the Buds' goal.
 

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With only one game under the Leaf's jersey, Bernier has me convinced: we found an amazing goalie and the best thing is he has so much upside to him, I'm ecstatic at the thought of seeing more of him in the Buds' goal.
He sure was solid against the Flyers. Reimer played well against the Habs. So I still think they are 1a and 1b.
Reimer never seems to give you that "I'm confident this game is over and we've won feeling". I felt much more confident with Bernier last night.
 

sasemohan123

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He sure was solid against the Flyers. Reimer played well against the Habs. So I still think they are 1a and 1b.
Reimer never seems to give you that "I'm confident this game is over and we've won feeling". I felt much more confident with Bernier last night.
I like the confident in having Bernier calmly doing his stuffs. I kind of enjoyed what Rheimer does best: win some games, doing well under skepticism last year, but managed very well in giving my heart the butterflies when the opposition are coming in, in its way it is exciting. Both are good goalies, no doubt, just Bernier gives you hope of thing MUCH better down the stretch. No proof yet, but just a gut feeling of : ahhhh! finally...
 

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I like the confident in having Bernier calmly doing his stuffs. I kind of enjoyed what Rheimer does best: win some games, doing well under skepticism last year, but managed very well in giving my heart the butterflies when the opposition are coming in, in its way it is exciting. Both are good goalies, no doubt, just Bernier gives you hope of thing MUCH better down the stretch. No proof yet, but just a gut feeling of : ahhhh! finally...
The Leafs need good goalies because they often get outshot (and often badly) and lose faceoffs in their own zone. Outshot again last night. Enough negatives, back to the glowing comments. Winning conquers all.
 

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Leafs won this trade as well !
 

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Leafs won this trade as well !
Both teams won the trade .. Kings got assets for an asset they didn't need and Leafs needed ..

Why not talk about clear cut trades Leafs own ... Leafs have acquired D Cody Fransen and C Matthew Lombardi from NASH for D Brett Lebda and F Robert Slaney.

Francois Beauchemin shipped back to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for forward Joffrey Lupul, defenceman Jake Gardiner .
 

sasemohan123

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As far as impact player goes, as early as 3 games in...I am saying we have a bonafide goalie in Bernier: he has made it easier for the whole team to play in front of him, not much rebounds so there are less of secondary chances: like RC said: he allows the Dmen to box out in formation, so Rockslinger will be happy that the shot on goals might go down this year as a result :D.

I am in love with this guy, never imagine I'd say that about a...guy hahaha.
 

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Why not talk about clear cut trades Leafs own ... Leafs have acquired D Cody Fransen and C Matthew Lombardi from NASH for D Brett Lebda and F Robert Slaney.

Francois Beauchemin shipped back to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for forward Joffrey Lupul, defenceman Jake Gardiner .
Tiger Williams and Jerry Butler to the Canucks for Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago.


Leafs won that one easily.
 

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The Gilmour trade has to be the Leafs biggest win given that it lead to a few year success period over .500 (one of only two periods over the past 30 years)

And of course Russ Courtnall for John Kordic.
 

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Tiger Williams and Jerry Butler to the Canucks for Rick Vaive and Bill Derlago.


Leafs won that one easily.
Why don't you change your name to shtick . Cause these type of posts that are your shtick . I am surprised you didn't talk about the Frank Mahovlich trade isn't that how old you are or maybe we should go back to the 50's ?
 

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The Gilmour trade has to be the Leafs biggest win given that it lead to a few year success period over .500 (one of only two periods over the past 30 years)

And of course Russ Courtnall for John Kordic.


Francois Beauchemin back to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for forward Joffrey Lupul, defenceman Jake Gardiner and a conditional fourth-round draft pick in the 2013 Entry Draft.
 
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