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roddermac

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That's an opinion. But I'd say that somebody who will probably have the 3rd largest contract in the history of baseball, is most likely a superstar. Stars don't get that but superstars do.
The worry about giving him a big long term contract is his weight will be an issue and he'll most likely be playing DH at a younger age than Pujos did. Another concern is he only hits when the games don't matter.
 
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I understand the worry. We've seen how it turns out for them in the end. But Tampa Florida Dallas and Colorado are also doing the same. If these picks end up being bottom 5 who cares but if they're top 5 it's Lindos Niedermeyer Luongo Seguin Hamilton all over again.
The problem is that a specific drafting slot is way less important than having a bunch of picks.
The bona fide superstars aside, it's a real crap shoot and it becomes a numbers game.
If you look at Hockeydb Draft History, it's amazing how few guys make it, even guys that were sure bet prospects.
The one thing that stands out is, the higher the better.
Anything from Round 3 and down is pure gravy.
NHL and WHA Draft History at Hockeydb.com
 
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The worry about giving him a big long term contract is his weight will be an issue and he'll most likely be playing DH at a younger age than Pujos did. Another concern is he only hits when the games don't matter.
I think that it's more likely that he will continue to improve his conditioning over the years.
 

roddermac

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The problem is that a specific drafting slot is way less important than having a bunch of picks.
The bona fide superstars aside, it's a real crap shoot and it becomes a numbers game.
If you look at Hockeydb Draft History, it's amazing how few guys make it, even guys that were sure bet prospects.
The one thing that stands out is, the higher the better.
Anything from Round 3 and down is pure gravy.
NHL and WHA Draft History at Hockeydb.com
Doesn't matter either way. The Leafs can't draft for shit.
 

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Leafs have a new Director of Amateur Scouting in Mark Leach. He came from Dallas and they have an excellent track record of drafting. Most of their top players on the current team they drafted. Players like Robertson, Johnston, Hintz, Harley (played for Team Canada), Ottinger, Heiskanen. Only Heiskanen was a top level pick. All these players are in their 20's. They also drafted Benn but that was 2 decades ago.
 
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Leafs have a new Director of Amateur Scouting in Mark Leach. He came from Dallas and they have an excellent track record of drafting. Most of their top players on the current team they drafted. Players like Robertson, Johnston, Hintz, Harley (played for Team Canada), Ottinger, Heiskanen. Only Heiskanen was a top level pick. All these players are in their 20's. They also drafted Benn but that was 2 decades ago.
Anyone is better than Wes Clark who left to join Doofus in Pittsburgh
 

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Don't forget, in the past the regular season was also important for player bonuses. Score 50 goals, get an extra $500,000. I don't think think teams can offer bonuses anymore.
Much of Pacioretti’s (sic) pay this year was bonus based
 
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Nylander was +4 last night.

Tavares sure doesn't look like a 34 year old.

With Knies being a RFA, some people on some local sports radio shows are wondering if other teams will make him a big offer the way St. Louis did to 2 young Edmonton Oiler players in the off season.

OEL's next point will be his 500th, and his next 2 goals will be his 150th.
 

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McMann is probably Leafs best forechecker with his size and speed. He can also shoot. He didn't play last playoffs because he was injured. I'd say he was a key loss. He really should be playing on the 2nd line where Nylander can feed him rush chances as well but that weakens the 3rd line. There's no comparison between McMann and Holmberg. Holmberg is a 4th liner on a championship calibre team at best.

They could use Max P for the playoffs. He's big and probably their best hitter and has shown to work well with Tavares and Nylander. So it should be McMann or Max P playing on the 2nd line or a rotation of those 2 with 3rd line duties. Holmberg has gotta be just a placeholder for when Max P gets back.

It wasn't that long ago under Keefe that Jarnkrok was used in the top 2 lines at times.
 
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