I know but he's still dealing with an injury and other than this playoff series he's been pretty good in the playoffs. You forget he got his extension after a good playoff series against the Bruins years ago.
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No, I didn't forget. I'm not the one who said he's been shit EVERY playoffs. You're trying to justify Marner's playoff play by comparing him to Nylander. I'm merely pointing out that you're comparing playoff performance between an 11 million player and a 7 million player. Marner's next contract will be even higher.
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But it's when he got his extension. He wanted $9 million in the off season and Dubas said no. Then he had a break out years and played well in the playoffs and the number went up. Same with Nylander demanding $10 prior to the season and then has a big year and gets $11.5.
I honestly don't know what the answer is to the Leafs issues, but I think the anti-Marner crowd is going to rue the day if they trade him. He's one of the most talented home-grown Leafs since....well, maybe Sittler, Wendel Clark, Russ Courtnall or Vincent Damphouse? I mean, what can you get in return for a stud like him? I know, his playoffs aren't great....but he's the straw that stirs the drink. And, I think he probably was still injured from the high ankle sprain....
On that note, I'd love to know what the fuck hit Nylander in the first three games, and the illness/injury that hit Matthews in games 4-6....
On that note, I'd love to know what the fuck hit Nylander in the first three games, and the illness/injury that hit Matthews in games 4-6....
ok so you're comparing a 9 million player to a 7 million player. Nylander was at 7 million and still everyone was complaining and grouping him in with the other 3 11 million players. It should have been the 3 11 million players carrying the team and Nylander was a bonus.
I think Nylander had migraines. Matthews was much more vague. It sounded more like illness than injury.
I heard on the radio in passing that it was both. He was sick, came back, got hurt, and then came back...
The Leafs are not a total bust. Teams that have beaten them have made the Finals so they've lost to very good teams and most in 7 games. They've made the playoffs 8 consecutive years. Matthews and company have never missed the playoffs.
What's the common denominator. The opposition has always had the superior goaltending. There's Rask, Vasilevsky, Price, Bobrovsky, and Swayman. Meanwhile Leafs are putting out there Reimer, Andersen, Campbell, and Samsonov. Last 10 years Leafs have also had Bernier, Sparks, Enroth, Bibeau, McElhinney, Pickard, Hutchinson, Kaskisuo, Rittich, Mrazek, Kallgren, Murray, Jones. That is a huge list of nonsense goalies.
Leafs now have Woll. He looks like a potential real deal but he could be injury prone. He's played a total of 7 playoff games.
In those 7 games though he has a 1.78 GGA and .933 SV%
Leafs will probably resign Marner. Keep him as part of the core 3 forwards. Let Tavares contract expire and use the money to get 2 D the calibre of Tanev and Pesce. Use Woll as their starter. So next year they'll be fielding a lot of low priced help. They should make the playoffs still. They have cheap labour in Benoit, Lili, Timmons, Knies, McMann, Holmberg. They have McCabe for one more year and Rielly, Kampf, Jarnkrok longer term. Oh, and Reaves for 2 more years.
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Every year they've made changes. How is that doing the same thing over and over again?
Were you the one that said Marner sucked in EVERY playoffs?
They got rid of Hyman. Wasn't that a change? Weren't you happy with that.
Have you asked Marner if he wants to be traded?
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Well, you lost all credibility if you think he has sucked in EVERY playoffs.
You must think it was his fault in the OT goal as well.
Boston last playoffs had injuries to key players.
Bergeron missed 4 games and Krejci missed 3 and when they played weren't 100%
Leafs this playoffs Nylander missed 3 games and Matthews missed 2.
Considering Leafs are not deep and top heavy these are key players.
Some think Marner was also not fully recovered from his injury.
There's also McMann.
They've had injuries in the past as well to key players that hurt them.
Namely Muzzin twice and to a lesser extent Tavares.
Kadri wasn't an injury but suspended twice in both Boston series.
The biggest injury though I would say was to Woll.
The tying goal on Samsonov I would consider also weak.
They have the book on Sammy. Top corner blocker side.
He didn't make enough effort to see the shot.
It was a wrister by Lindholm.
Bergeron missed 4 games and Krejci missed 3 and when they played weren't 100%
Leafs this playoffs Nylander missed 3 games and Matthews missed 2.
Considering Leafs are not deep and top heavy these are key players.
Some think Marner was also not fully recovered from his injury.
There's also McMann.
They've had injuries in the past as well to key players that hurt them.
Namely Muzzin twice and to a lesser extent Tavares.
Kadri wasn't an injury but suspended twice in both Boston series.
The biggest injury though I would say was to Woll.
The tying goal on Samsonov I would consider also weak.
They have the book on Sammy. Top corner blocker side.
He didn't make enough effort to see the shot.
It was a wrister by Lindholm.
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TSN has the worst sound quality. Both cable and streaming.
Awesome 3rd period in the Bruins/Panthers game. You will never see that kind of fight out of the Leafs. They just curl up and go home
Florida will line brawl you anytime. Win or lose. At least Boston tried to set the tone for the next game. Never see that in Toronto since Wendel Clark was around. So tired of it. Blow up this whole team please
The core four of this shit team WILL NOT FIGHT!
Will not drop the gloves ever
Wake the fuck up Toronto
Will not drop the gloves ever
Wake the fuck up Toronto
He didn't win but I've got mad respect for pasta for giving it a go.
Marchand is all in...
The Leafs best defenseman won’t fight either.
This can’t be any more of a joke
This can’t be any more of a joke
Well there is a certain crowd that thinks fighting and rough hockey has no place in the game.
Of course their steams stars usually have low handicaps for a reason..
