Leafs 2023-2024 Thread

shack

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Actually, he is wrong.

Liewicki was very good at identifying good executive managers. He selected Ujiri at the same time. It was hardly name recognition. Off the top of my head I can't remember, but he'd made other very good choices.
I remember being very disappointed when Liewicki left.
 

smuddan

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For anyone who’s interested, these are the Leaf players stats for this series:

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Surprisingly Lybushkin was the best d man with 3 points and plus 4.

Marner with 3 points and plus 1, Tavares 2 points Even +/-. Yet everyone is dumping on Marner but hardly any criticism on Tavares who is making even more money than Marner and is the captain of the team. Don’t get me wrong, Marner deserves his share of blames but he shouldn’t be singled out as the only culprit.
 

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Could be worse, we could be Ottawa Senators fans(sorry Oracle).
 

maurice93

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Surprisingly Lybushkin was the best d man with 3 points and plus 4.

Marner with 3 points and plus 1, Tavares 2 points Even +/-. Yet everyone is dumping on Marner but hardly any criticism on Tavares who is making even more money than Marner and is the captain of the team. Don’t get me wrong, Marner deserves his share of blames but he shouldn’t be singled out as the only culprit.
I think a big part of that, is that people know that Tavares will not be part of the future after 24/25 season. Or if he is, he will be not paid much.

Marner is potentially a core big $$$ piece much longer -- and many don't want that... understandably.
 

smuddan

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I think a big part of that, is that people know that Tavares will not be part of the future after 24/25 season. Or if he is, he will be not paid much.

Marner is potentially a core big $$$ piece much longer -- and many don't want that... understandably.
I get your point, but unless something happens drastically, like going deep into the playoffs next year, I don’t see either one coming back. There’s a slight possibility of Tavares returning at a substantially reduced salary.
 

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Here’s a look at the free agency situation for the Leafs :

Forwards : Bertuzzi and Domi. Both with a 5mil expiring contract. My guess is at least one will return and the other’s spot will be taken by either Knies or McMann on the top six.

Defence : Brodie, Edmundson, Giordano, Lybushkin, Klingberg and Mazzin. They’ll benefit from the savings of 5mil each on the Muzzin, Brodie’ and Klingberg’s contracts. They’ll likely try to resign Lybushkin and Edmundson .

Goal : Samsonov, Jones and Murray. Samsonov is the healthiest and makes most sense among the three as a Backup to Woll.
 
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