Leafs 2023-2024 Thread
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We need a Canadian league with the Stanley Cup as our own to compete for. The NHL can compete for the President's trophy or the Gary Bettman trophy. I'm tired of promoting hockey to certain States that don't have the same passion as Canadians.
And you know this how. The league would be stagnant if they didn't expand to untapped markets. Some of these markets do draw even if you don't think so.I do agree they have too many teams but do you really think Hamilton and Quebec city could support a team and compete with the Maple Leafs and Canadiens financially
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Lou wanted out after he was named a special advisor or whatever role shanny put him in once shanny officially dubious GM.
To your question, I’m not sure why dubious was hired to begin with. Only in Toronto does this shit happen. A team that has a fan base willing to do a proper rebuild and they bring in a nobody that has no NHL experience rebuilding a NHL team. Dubas, and Hunter would get into arguments on the draft floor at the table about who to draft.
I wonder why Lou accepted the job with the Leafs if there wasn't any type of agreement to become the GM. My only assumption would be that Shanny preferred Dubas because he didn't want to give him too much control where as Lou would have to get all or nothing. I still have no idea why Shanahan was hired other than being a name and a local Toronto guy. He should be the next to go. As for Mark Hunter goes . Show me a draft pick other than Mitch Marner 4th overall that he has picked that has panned out. In no way would I have given him the job either.
Lou was brought in to mentor Dubas. He was a rookie remember with zippo experience. The plan was always to transition. Lou eluded to it when he was brought in. They probably did it the Leafs way and paid him a boatload of money he could not refuse and the position was the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs after all.
Dubas was considered the next young bright mind of hockey. Colorado wanted him if Lou stayed on. Hence probably why Shanny expedited the transition. Colorado was fortunate they never landed Dubas. Fleeced Dubas instead and acquired Kadri and won a cup with him.
2015 draft Arizona picked Strome 3rd overall. That's Arizona for you. That left Marner and Hanifan. Babcock wanted Hanifan. So Leafs were fortunate in a way to land Marner and fortunate to win the lottery to land Matthews. Also fortunate they didn't listen to Don Cherry and picked Nylander instead of Nick Ritchie. After all this fortune and good drafting mass complaints about the core 4 forwards. Players picked ahead of Nylander ... Bennett, Dal Colle, Virtanen, Haydn Fleury. Interestingly in Nylander's draft year picks 1, 2, and 4 are currently playing in Florida.
Dubas was considered the next young bright mind of hockey. Colorado wanted him if Lou stayed on. Hence probably why Shanny expedited the transition. Colorado was fortunate they never landed Dubas. Fleeced Dubas instead and acquired Kadri and won a cup with him.
2015 draft Arizona picked Strome 3rd overall. That's Arizona for you. That left Marner and Hanifan. Babcock wanted Hanifan. So Leafs were fortunate in a way to land Marner and fortunate to win the lottery to land Matthews. Also fortunate they didn't listen to Don Cherry and picked Nylander instead of Nick Ritchie. After all this fortune and good drafting mass complaints about the core 4 forwards. Players picked ahead of Nylander ... Bennett, Dal Colle, Virtanen, Haydn Fleury. Interestingly in Nylander's draft year picks 1, 2, and 4 are currently playing in Florida.
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Good point. This is why I find the situation in Pittsburgh interesting. Before they drafted Mario in 1984 the Penguins were having attendance issues and there was talk of relocation. In the past 40 years they have had some great tems with 3 mega-superstars(Mario, Jaromir, and Sid) and 2 superstars(Malkin and Fleury). What happens when the team goes into rebuilding mode with no superstars, which appears to be starting? Will the fans still show up?
The NHL has only been rigged for the Habs...drafts, awards, overtime games.
Pasternak was picked 25th overall the year Nylander was drafted. So glad Hunter got his pick instead of BabCrock. But Mikko Rantanen would've been a nice pick that year too. Dylan Strome was coming off a great season in Eerie and the centre position is usually a higher priority than winger.
Strome most likely would have been picked by the Leafs if Arizona picked Marner. Leafs were in need of a number 1 center. They never had one since Sundin left. They were using Bozak in that role for years. Matthews was still in the future.
I was hoping Strome would fall to the Leafs at the time cause I never thought they would win the draft lottery and get Mathews.
And the the Toronto Maple Leafs would never allow two of them.
I know you are not personally doing it here, but its amazing how many people feel the lack of teams in those markets is a Bettman issue.
Eichel was the 2nd pick overall in Marner's draft year. A comparison could be made with Marner as to who better. Prior to Eichel winning a cup one could say Marner is better. Perhaps even still so. Eichel signed for 10 million in 2018 for 8 years. Marner signed a year after for 903 thousand more for 6 years. So if you compare Eichel to Marner if it is an over-payment for Marner it's not drastic.
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All the 4 major team sports leagues have 30 or more teams. I see no need to cut back to 28. But I sure as heck would move the Coyotes to a better locale.
