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Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements

mandrill

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If the complaint is that her video is too short, there is always this one.
Dirty was just ranting about how Stalin killed more people than Hitler. Relevant arguments that go to the core of the Peterson issue.
 

The Oracle

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This is why he is called the King of the Incels-he blames women for these mens’ violence and proposes “enforced monogamy” as the solution to this program.
Negative and this has been covered on here before.


Listen to his own words. Enforced monogamy by culture because polygamous cultures become very violent. He states that this has been available in the anthropological literature for 100 years.

As Harry has said on here, members are relying on third party information. In this case a NYT hit piece. Instead listen to him and what he actually says.

Doesn't mean I agree or go along with everything he says either. I do like his willingness to go into the deep waters though.
 

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Negative and this has been covered on here before.


Listen to his own words. Enforced monogamy by culture because polygamous cultures become very violent. He states that this has been available in the anthropological literature for 100 years.

As Harry has said on here, members are relying on third party information. In this case a NYT hit piece. Instead listen to him and what he actually says.

Doesn't mean I agree or go along with everything he says either. I do like his willingness to go into the deep waters though.
Yes. He wants society to pressure women into marrying and remaining with these incel dip shits so they don’t go off and kill people.

Got it.



PS: Maybe consider sending this Joe Rogan vid to the OCP. I’m sure it will explain everything. 😂
 
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Yes. He wants society to pressure women into marrying and remaining with these incel dip shits so they don’t go off and kill people.

Got it.



PS: Maybe consider sending this Joe Rogan vid to the OCP. I’m sure it will explain everything. 😂
You're missing the point. He wants society to influence these guys into lifting themselves up to get out of where there are. He specifically says they are to blame for being alone. Not women!
 

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Here's a quote from the CBC website, that you quoted. " Peterson said he no longer treats patients and his career is instead focused on social and political commentary."
Then he doesn't need his license so what's the big deal? He can go on spouting off his opinion and nonsense license free.
 
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According to that same CBC site. JP quoted----

Peterson gave up his clinical practice when he gained a global profile, but he said he doesn't want to give up his clinical licence.

"I deserve it. I earned it. I haven't done anything to justify suspending it, and I don't want to give the hyenas their bones."
Then he should follow the rules or the code of ethics put forth when he attained the license.
 

dirtyharry555

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Peterson says disparaging things about women all the time;

From the above article:
“The left, he believes, refuses to admit that men might be in charge because they are better at it. “The people who hold that our culture is an oppressive patriarchy, they don’t want to admit that the current hierarchy might be predicated on competence,” he said.”

So Peterson believes men are more competent than women to hold positions of power.
That's not disparaging. Unless you believe men and women are equal in all respects (which is obviously not true). Are there plenty of men and women that have leadership qualities? Sure. Are those qualities evenly distributed among men and women. No.

If you want to see what happens when highly educated, strong, independent women are removed from male 'oppression' and left completely on their own watch a few seasons of this show:


The cookie crumbles quickly, and the reliance on the fruits of men's labor and competencies becomes readily apparent.

You'd get the same outcome anywhere including the First World if men were completely removed from the picture. Males of our species build and sustain... I understand this is a hard pill to swallow given the contemporary but deeply flawed narrative that gender is a social construct, and that men and women are identical.

No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.” Plato
 

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Do you agree he found a way to monetize his anger? He stumbled onto it and when Fox and the right-wing propaganda machine latched on, he realized he could cha-ching his way up.

Back from 2018 but very spot on

The Guardian eh?...That bastion of ''dig'' journalism you say. Nice of the author to say his voice sounds like ''Kermit the frog''. LOL....True Guardian style right there.

Once again I'm not depending on third party interpretation with him or short well edited clips. I've actually read his last two books and watch most of his podcasts start to finish.
 

mandrill

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Negative and this has been covered on here before.


Listen to his own words. Enforced monogamy by culture because polygamous cultures become very violent. He states that this has been available in the anthropological literature for 100 years.

As Harry has said on here, members are relying on third party information. In this case a NYT hit piece. Instead listen to him and what he actually says.

Doesn't mean I agree or go along with everything he says either. I do like his willingness to go into the deep waters though.
Polygamous cultures become violent??..... Like how / when?

As opposed to Medieval, monogamous Europe for instance? That was one of the most violent societies that has ever existed.
 
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mandrill

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You're missing the point. He wants society to influence these guys into lifting themselves up to get out of where there are. He specifically says they are to blame for being alone. Not women!
By enforcing monogamy??!!! In 2023 Canada?!?!?!
 

mandrill

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Here's a quote from the CBC website, that you quoted. " Peterson said he no longer treats patients and his career is instead focused on social and political commentary."

So IMHO, how does the CPO have the right to try and take away JP's license, when JP's not even seeing patients? I thought that all Lawyers, Doctors, Psychologists etc, get disciplined by their respective colleges, by doing actual harm to a patient or client, not just making general controversial comments on twitter??
You're wrong. Medical and legal profession can yank your licence for all sorts of reasons - i.e. getting convicted of a crime or disgraceful public comments.
 

mandrill

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That's not disparaging. Unless you believe men and women are equal in all respects (which is obviously not true). Are there plenty of men and women that have leadership qualities? Sure. Are those qualities evenly distributed among men and women. No.

If you want to see what happens when highly educated, strong, independent women are removed from male 'oppression' and left completely on their own watch a few seasons of this show:


The cookie crumbles quickly, and the reliance on the fruits of men's labor and competencies becomes readily apparent.

You'd get the same outcome anywhere including the First World if men were completely removed from the picture. Males of our species build and sustain... I understand this is a hard pill to swallow given the contemporary but deeply flawed narrative that gender is a social construct, and that men and women are identical.

No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.” Plato
Gender is a social construct, Dirty. Leadership qualities are evenly distributed between the genders. Female attorneys are at least 50% of the bar and probably the same % of the Bench. Add in the medical and academic professions. Same %'s.

The 1950's are over. The only people who think like Peterson are Peterson's fanbois these days.
 

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Gender is a social construct, Dirty. Leadership qualities are evenly distributed between the genders. Female attorneys are at least 50% of the bar and probably the same % of the Bench. Add in the medical and academic professions. Same %'s.

The 1950's are over. The only people who think like Peterson are Peterson's fanbois these days.
Don't forget the Andrew Tate fanbois!!!
 
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Gender is a social construct, Dirty. Leadership qualities are evenly distributed between the genders. Female attorneys are at least 50% of the bar and probably the same % of the Bench. Add in the medical and academic professions. Same %'s.

The 1950's are over. The only people who think like Peterson are Peterson's fanbois these days.
You are the dictionary definition of 'suspension of disbelief'.

It isn't the 1950s nor is it 3100 B.C., but we're still men and women.

Your percentages speak to intelligence, which is evenly distributed (except at the tale ends - there are more males at the lowest and highest points of the intelligence distribution). Leadership goes beyond raw intelligence, as that simple video I posted demonstrates.
 
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