Jays 2026 Thread
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I'm puzzled by why you mentioned Robbie Alomar and Barry Bonds not being in the Hall of Fame, (Alomar was removed from the Blue Jays' Level of Excellence), in a post about racism in the 1940's. Other than that all players mentioned played Major League Baseball, there's nothing of substance to connect the two groups. It's not as if you don't segue between two unrelated topics in the same post at least once per day, but this has nothing to do with cooking shows, The Sopranos, Mikey Madison nor tennis.
In addition to being a steroid cheat, Barry Bonds was and is a complete asshole, just like his father. The only modern MLB players who are comparable to the two of them in that regard are Albert Belle and John Rocker.
The Blue Jays severed ties with Alomar because he sexually harrassed a female employee of the team. The team took down his Hall of Fame banner, and un-retired his number. He was also banned by the Commissioner from any and all jobs associated with Major League teams and their affiliates. He would also have been ineligible for induction into the Hall of Fame, if he wasn't already a member.
Only two players have ever been banned from MLB for sexual harassment, so one must conclude that he did more than just wolf whistle.
I've been pretty curious about Roberto Alomar recently. I searched him on YouTube and Google and there is absolutely nothing current since being cut off from the Blue Jays franchise, aside from a five year gap and two interviews this year both in the Toronto Sun and the Toronto Star since those allegations that got him cut off from the Blue Jays franchise for sexual harassment.. The private investigations about that, to spitting in umpires faces, to concealing his HIV status to previous girlfriends… And those women later charged him with this… and then here he is putting gag orders and settling out of court, etc. etc. This guy is a mess. He is a real real mess. I am at a point where I just consider him to be a bad guy. He is a piece of shit that doesn't even deserve to be in the HOF. How are Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens worse than him? Alomar in his recent Twitter posts refers to himself as "part of the HOF family"… So obviously that means everything to him. That level of status. Alomar is garbage as far as I'm concerned.
I wish Carlos Delgado was in the HOF. I really like how the Jay's organization has opened up the memorial for what an unbelievable player he was. If Dave Winfield and Fred McGriff are there… Carlos Delgado deserves to be there as well.
. Philip.
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I don't think there's a procedure to remove a player from a sports Hall of Fame after their induction. The ineligible list prevents certain players from being inducted, and bias on the part of the some of the electorate from the BBWAA certainly plays a part in some other exclusions, notably players whose achievements were enhanced by PEDs. Your golden boy Roger Clemens isn't ineligible, but more than 25% of those who vote don't think he merits inclusion at this time.
Take a look at Albert Belle's statistics https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/belleal01.shtml , keeping in mind that his career was cut short by injury shortly after his 34th birthday. He has the minimum 10 years, and every one of his full seasons was great statistically.
from wikipedia:
"In his first year of Hall of Fame eligibility (2006), he garnered only 7.7% of the baseball writers' votes, missing election by an extremely wide margin. His vote total, though, was high enough to keep his name on the ballot for the following year. In 2007, he received only 19 votes (3.5%), knocking him off the ballot.".
Belle's surly personality had everything to do with his being snubbed by almost all of the voters.
Attempting to remove someone post-induction is a slippery slope which sports teams don't want to attempt to navigate, particularly when it involves the behavior of players from the distant past being viewed through a modern lens. Baseball will never become that woke.
Take a look at Albert Belle's statistics https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/belleal01.shtml , keeping in mind that his career was cut short by injury shortly after his 34th birthday. He has the minimum 10 years, and every one of his full seasons was great statistically.
from wikipedia:
"In his first year of Hall of Fame eligibility (2006), he garnered only 7.7% of the baseball writers' votes, missing election by an extremely wide margin. His vote total, though, was high enough to keep his name on the ballot for the following year. In 2007, he received only 19 votes (3.5%), knocking him off the ballot.".
Belle's surly personality had everything to do with his being snubbed by almost all of the voters.
Attempting to remove someone post-induction is a slippery slope which sports teams don't want to attempt to navigate, particularly when it involves the behavior of players from the distant past being viewed through a modern lens. Baseball will never become that woke.
Belle was an RBI machine. Used to be an important stat. I think it still is but most of baseball doesn't seem to care to much about it. How often have we watched the Jays go 1 for 9 or 2 for 12 with men in scoring position on any given day.
How much of the allegations against him are true. One of his accusers accused him of giving her full blown AIDS yet he seems to be in good health. Was it ever confirmed that he is HIV positive.
Robbie dated a teenaged Mary Pierce, she was breathtaking in her youth. He showed up at the Australian Open to support her. She broke him physically.
They have at least made the final baseball month exciting, even if they dont get that WC spot
I don't remember one of the accusers saying that. What I do remember is both accusers that went as far as court, he settled out of court with both of them. From what I recall, one of them was a massage therapist from New Jersey or something like that. The other one was his ex girlfriend from Puerto Rico that was a fitness model. I believe there was also a tennis player as well. Again, this is all by memory and I do remember the allegations were more in line with him saying that he was HIV negative in order to have unprotected intercourse. I also recall one of the accusers saying that he would often talk about how men raped him in the minor leagues in order to gain some form of sympathy. He also said he will look forward to the chance of portraying his innocence in the sexual misconduct allegation from the Blue Jays organization… Now he says he couldn't afford to go to court. He also says this whole ordeal was because Mark Shapiro doesn't like him since trading him from Cleveland days after telling him he will never be traded. I also recall the first accuser saying that when he went to the Mets, he was so broken down physically, it was then where he scheduled a spinal tap which determined he had AIDS.
This entire story revolving around him is incredibly bizarre.
Philip
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The Tennis player he was involved with was Mary Pierce...To my knowledge there was no mention of sexual misconduct with her.
Third best 2nd bagger I have ever seen...Joe Morgan...Ryne Sandberg...Alomar.
Ilya Dall was the first accuser. I just googled it. She was pretty detailed about his declining health and loss of eyesight when he went to the Mets. It was then determined what he was dealing with.
I don't know man I'm not trying to discriminate, but I grew up in the 80s and this whole story makes my skin crawl. I don't know, to me Roberto has issues.
Philip
All he had to do was get tested and make the results public
For someone to know he is at risk and not behave responsibly is garbage
If the person living with HIV is on effective Antiretroviral Therapy (ART) and has an undetectable viral load, they cannot sexually transmit HIV to a partner.
This reminds me of Michael Jackson's relationship with Jordan Chandler (the first kid). If you have nothing to hide, then present the evidence and defend your name. Don't settle out of court. This isn't a domestic case involving pop tarts.
Philip
Mary Pierce won the Australian Open as a teenager in 1995, she wasn't with Robbie at the time. They were a couple when Pierce won the French Open in 2000. There was no sexual impropriety in their relationship. Robbie was never a problem with her, her maniacal father was. Mary Piece was born in Canada, trained in the US and represented France. To get has far away from her father as possible, she now lives in Mauritius, an island near Madagascar. Robbie played four more seasons after they separated.
Jim Pierce was banned from tennis and estranged from Mary due to his emotional and physical abuse. The WTA introduced the Jim Pierce Rule that banned abusive parents.
Jim Pierce was Jimmy Connors on a bad day.
Jim Pierce was banned from tennis and estranged from Mary due to his emotional and physical abuse. The WTA introduced the Jim Pierce Rule that banned abusive parents.
Jim Pierce was Jimmy Connors on a bad day.
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Luis Durango minor league stats.
This guy is my new favorite player. You all owe it to yourself to watch his AA highlights reel in the first link.
Luis Durango is a 23 year old left-hand hitting outfielder who's 5'10" and 135 pounds. He was originally signed by the Guardians, and the Yankees acquired him in the 2024 Rule 5 Draft, then purchased his contract from them.
He's put it all together in 2026, advancing from low A through A+ to a AA call-up at the end of July.
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