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Blue Jays acquire righty Taillon from Cubs

Taillon is 2-6 with a 5.92 ERA in 2026. He has an $18 Million contract, expiring at the end of this season.

He might be useful if the Blue Jays' strategy for the rest of this season is to finish among the bottom six teams in the Majors, which would mean that their first round pick in next year's amateur draft does not drop by ten spots, as a penalty for exceeding the luxury tax for a 3rd consecutive season, (see my post, (#623), in this thread for more details.
 
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It would not surprise me if the Jays and Cubs make another, more significant deal before 6 PM on Monday. Taillon has never pitched 200 innings in a season, and he's an 'old 34', meaning that it's unreasonable to expect him to have multiple productive seasons in his ML career. Essentially, the Jays are adding about $6 Million to their current year payroll, plus the surtax and financial penalties associated with being over the cap for a third straight year. The Cubs were about $11 Million below cap prior to the deal. This gives them some wiggle room when it comes to acquiring a rental player. If the Jays can't acquire decent prospects for their expiring contracts, the next best thing would be to insist that their trade partner(s) take one of the Jays' 'cost certainty ' contracts, of which there are several from which to choose.
 
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onomatopoeia said:
It would not surprise me if the Jays and Cubs make another, more significant deal before 6 PM on Monday. Taillon has never pitched 200 innings in a season, and he's an 'old 34', meaning that it's unreasonable to expect him to have multiple productive seasons in his ML career. Essentially, the Jays are adding about $6 Million to their current year payroll, plus the surtax and financial penalties associated with being over the cap for a third straight year. The Cubs were about $11 Million below cap prior to the deal. This gives them some wiggle room when it comes to acquiring a rental player. If the Jays can't acquire decent prospects for their expiring contracts, the next best thing would be to insist that their trade partner(s) take one of the Jays' 'cost certainty ' contracts, of which there are several from which to choose.
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I think it also means if the Jays just acquired a starting pitcher, that means they will for sure trade away either Bieber, Scherzer, or Gaus to fill the void.

Probably Gausman though
 
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Bieber has some value to the Jays beyond 6:01 PM tomorrow night. Most likely he would receive a qualifying offer, so there would be a relatively decent draft pick coming back* if he signed elsewhere.

*In the 31-35 range if the Jays are ranked above 25th best after the draft lottery, otherwise they would keep the top 6 pick, and the compensation pick would drop ten places.
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
I think it also means if the Jays just acquired a starting pitcher, that means they will for sure trade away either Bieber, Scherzer, or Gaus to fill the void.

Probably Gausman though
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Bieber would likely be tendered a qualifying offer, so there would be some compensation coming if he subsequently signed with a different team in the off season. Max and Gaus have already received a QO earlier in their career.
 
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It would not surprise me if the Jays and Cubs make another, more significant deal before 6 PM on Monday. Taillon has never pitched 200 innings in a season, and he's an 'old 34', meaning that it's unreasonable to expect him to have multiple productive seasons in his ML career. Essentially, the Jays are adding about $6 Million to their current year payroll, plus the surtax and financial penalties associated with being over the cap for a third straight year. The Cubs were about $11 Million below cap prior to the deal. This gives them some wiggle room when it comes to acquiring a rental player. If the Jays can't acquire decent prospects for their expiring contracts, the next best thing would be to insist that their trade partner(s) take one of the Jays' 'cost certainty ' contracts, of which there are several from which to choose.
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Your right. Gausman is going to the Cubs for 2 mid level prospects.
 
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Jose Soriano has a $2.9 Million contract for 2026, (1st year arbitration eligible).

Jose Soriano career stats

He has a 3.29 ERA this season through July 26, but with unusual splits: 0.24 ERA for his first six starts, (5-0 W-L), and 4.53 for his most recent 16, (4-6).

Jose Soriano 2026 game logs.

Soriano has had two stints on the 60 man IL, (2022 and 2024), the most recent for arm fatigue from August 17 until the end of the 2024 season.
 
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For Gaus the Jays are getting infield prospect Ty Southisene, the organization's # 13 prospect, and outfield prospect Brett Bateman, their # 21 prospect
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they gave away their biggest fish for two minnows who cannot hit homeruns

unless they trade Hoffman, as he is tied in for next year, so they should get a lot more for that extra year
as he has pitched well for the last few weeks

springer, varsho, hoffman, scherzer, bieber are next

interesting thing about this year is all the additions and FAs played at or above expectations except Ponce who was injured and they still floundered
 
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Anthony Santander out for the season.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i7x1iIRV_uk
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we talk about vlad being the worse long term deal in Blue Jay history, if not MLB, is not santander a worse one?
not his fault for injury but injuries happen
I never saw the risk/reward in such a deal

Build farm system and the stars that come out are locked in then trade them

Get two of three quality FAs for same price as one superstar

I suspect Vlad lost incentive as he gained weight. This is what the talking heads, who market the blue jays during broadcasts, talk about only in private

If you had the contract to work or not work for 10 years and get paid the same what would you do?
 
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Blue Jays traded for Soriano from the Angels. Starting pitcher throws 100 miles an hour is nine and six with a 3.60 era this season 27 years old… I'm kind of loving this. But they traded their top prospect, but whatever it's all about JoJo these days as the top prospect.

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And not to beat a dead horse lol, but they also just traded Adam Macko for some utility player. So we focused on dealing Teoscar Hernandez instead of extending him for no goddamn reason. It's now official signed, sealed and delivered…

Sorry guys not trying to go down that road again lol

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