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shack

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If he'll work with The Jays. Reading between the lines there seems to be a lot of animosity between his camp and The Jays. Hopefully, he can get into shape and both sides can un-poison the well.
I'm sure the Jays will try their hardest to get him back to where he was and show positivity and support, but yeah, a lot it is up to him.
 
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I'm sure the Jays will try their hardest to get him back to where he was and show positivity and support, but yeah, a lot it is up to him.
Hopefully he has a good agent that can instill some good sense into him, instead of an agent that tries to convince him he'll be treated better elsewhere.
 

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To whom?

I understand your point, though.
Mostly to the media, I suppose. I just find ultra competitive people to be prone to annoyingly childish behaviour. Whether it be a major league game with professionals, or a pick up softball game with amateurs.
 

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Mostly to the media, I suppose. I just find ultra competitive people to be prone to annoyingly childish behaviour. Whether it be a major league game with professionals, or a pick up softball game with amateurs.
Fair enough. They'll still complain to the media.

But complaining to the media (after the game and not in the heat of the moment) is a much appropriate and civilized approach than two guys getting into a face to face, calling each other names, kicking dirt, childish tirade, along with vastly reducing in-game ejections and delaying the game. This type of occurrence will be a thing of the past and will no longer be a distraction and embarrassment. And also, there will be no more cases of managers and players yelling at the umps from the dugout.

We will still get complaints but no more on-field childish behaviour initiated by disputing balls and strikes. No research on my part, but I suspect balls and strikes is the most common reason for arguments to start.
 
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Hopefully he has a good agent that can instill some good sense into him, instead of an agent that tries to convince him he'll be treated better elsewhere.
I hope someone can instill good sense into him because currently he has no trade value, so I can't imagine where anyone might think elsewhere would be. And I can't see The Jays just releasing him because they have too much invested and at one point in time they were looking at him to be a cornerstone of their lineup with Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt.
 

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Hopefully his mother has a stern talking to him about not quitting , being a team player and having discipline regarding a healthy diet. She has sacrificed a lot for him in order for him to be a major leaguer.
 
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I don't believe Alex Manoah can come back, his ego is too fragile.

Mothers can exert a powerful influence. Even though he excelled at football, Michael Clarke Duncan's mother didn't want him playing the sport. He eventually got an Oscar for The Green Mile.

...too bad he ended up with a scrofa.

 

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I don't believe Alex Manoah can come back, his ego is too fragile.

Mothers can exert a powerful influence. Even though he excelled at football, Michael Clarke Duncan's mother didn't want him playing the sport. He eventually got an Oscar for The Green Mile.

...too bad he ended up with a scrofa.

Michael Clarke Duncan did not win an Oscar. Michael Caine was the winner that year for Best Supporting Actor.
 
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Good pitcher and great hair.
I'm guessing Manoah's issue is mechanical, possibly to do with weight and stamina. I am guessing that he comes back next year and is a blue chip starting pitcher again.
 
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Michael Clarke Duncan did not win an Oscar. Michael Caine was the winner that year for Best Supporting Actor.
You're right, it was a major injustice. The Cider House Rules is dated, its overall score has dropped. The Green Mile remains a classic with an audience score 8.6/10. They didn't give Oscars to blacks in the 90's.

Ian Hanomansing's interview with Buck Martinez.

 
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You're right, it was a major injustice. The Cider House Rules is dated, its overall score has dropped. The Green Mile remains a classic with an audience score 8.6/10. They didn't give Oscars to blacks in the 90's.

Ian Hanomansing's interview with Buck Martinez.

Great interview. Buck has always come across as an honest and down to earth person with a lot of respect for the game.

Thanks for sharing.
 

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Philip and his “Passions” from “Toronto.” Lol.

Back in the 90s our family had the Boston channel coming in from the 90s cable package we had. This channel used to telecast Red Sox games. I would say 1993, 1994, 1995, and the first half of 1996…. Roger Clemens, definitely showed a decline. I remember at one point in like 1994/1995. He wasn’t even throwing 90 miles an hour anymore. He was getting gunned at 88 miles an hour. And this is when they used to register speed across the plate, losing about 4 to 7 mph from the hand. He changed his pitching mechanics, where his arm would really drag behind his body. His throwing arm wouldn’t even go straight up in the position anymore. It would just go down, pause low and weird He was throwing a lot of off-speed stuff….. definitely not even close to the pitcher he was. I always thought it looked like he was nursing a dead/tired arm. However, his second half of the 1996 season was looking good. This is where he struck out 20 batters again against the Tigers.

Then he signs with Toronto for the 1997 season. All of a sudden, his mechanics are back in shape, and he seems to have resurrected his dead arm. I was at his first start as a Bluejay against the Chicago White Sox in SkyDome. He was all of a sudden throwing in the mid-90s, and it did seem peculiar for sure. I followed his career so closely, and I noticed this to be weird immediately. So if he did, in fact, do something it’s fair to say it would’ve started during the 96 season, which was his last season with the Red Sox.

My argument is Brian McNamee his former trainer, claims to have injected Clements for the first time in 1998. That does not coincide with his resurrection. And he had reason to save his own ass from prosecution, so he was going to rat somebody out…. Clemens trained like an animal, he developed a really good split finger and learned how to set it up…. And Roger Clemens has never been convicted of anything. So in all fairness, if it doesn’t fit, we must acquit…. And this is still not good enough to get voted into the Hall of Fame. I think he was such an asshole. He must’ve declined interviews with the wrong people, and he must’ve pissed off the wrong baseball writter association members. I think there’s a lot of members in the Hall of Fame that cheated. I have a note before of Rickey Henderson and Nolan Ryan….. but that’s a whole other thing lol.

I mean at the end of the day, Clemens was never convicted of anything, and he was dominant like no pitcher I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. Was he a cheater? I mean, aren’t we all in someway? Lmao. Roger was never found guilty, so fuck Mitchell and fuck his report.

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Philip, the big physical change Roger Clemens made in the mid 1990's was intense leg work; I think he trained in deep sand. He started doing that after a talk with fellow Texan Nolan Ryan. Ryan said most of his power came from his legs, which is why he was still pitching 200+ innings per year at age 43.
 

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Romano blew it! This one stings. Jays fought back from a 5-0 deficit to take a 6-5 lead into the 9th. Romano gave up 4 hits and 2 runs to record his 6th loss and 4th blown save if the season.
 

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Romano blew it! This one stings. Jays fought back from a 5-0 deficit to take a 6-5 lead into the 9th. Romano gave up 4 hits and 2 runs to record his 6th loss and 4th blown save if the season.
After saving 27 consecutive. 36 out of 40.

The problem, once again, was leaving men on base. 13 LOB, including 9 in scoring position with 2 out. Varsho had 2 (and looked lost at the plate) and Chapman had 3 (is he the worst hitter in the league since May1?). A lot of those were early and also in the 8th (I believe) It should have never even been a save situation. Romano was also having a problem with his middle finger.
 

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Romano blew it! This one stings. Jays fought back from a 5-0 deficit to take a 6-5 lead into the 9th. Romano gave up 4 hits and 2 runs to record his 6th loss and 4th blown save if the season.
I would blame Schneider(the manager). It was obvious from the beginning Romano didn't have it, and that his finger was bothering him.
 
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