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Home plate umpire giving Gausman everything off the plate low...Grrr...
He was consistently bad for both teams.

Can't wait until they install the robot ump for calling balls and strikes. I wonder if the experiment is working in the minors.
 
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Honestly, I don't think that Biggio really knows how to play 1st base. I was watching, and whenever there was a Yankee on1st, I didn't see even one time where he was joking around and laughing with the baserunner. He was always serious. Maybe he can get some tips from Vladdy.

All the competition won today, but at least they reduced the magic number by 1.
 

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He was consistently bad for both teams.

Can't wait until they install the robot ump for calling balls and strikes. I wonder if the experiment is working in the minors.
I guarantee you players and managers will still complain.
 

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Both Roger Clemens and Mr. Snuggle (Barry Bonds) should be in the HOF, Paul Bunion never, never, NEVER.

Is there still a Bjorn Nittmo fan club?

 

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I guarantee you players and managers will still complain.
I'm not so sure about that, and if they do it won't be as vehemently as now. Look at tennis where the ball goes even faster. The players have just accepted the technology immediately. A player may occasionally but mildly question the call and they'll show it on the big screen, but there are never any McEnroe type outbursts. They know that it's futile arguing against a machine.

Bobby Cox's record for ejections will be safe until the end of time.
 

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Alek Manoah received inflammation shots in his throwing arm, and he is officially done for the season. From a mental standpoint, at least he will be able to show his face with playing the inflammation card. I personally think he’s an out of shape crybaby quitter, that sucked out and didn’t know how to deal with hitters laying off his slider at the major league level.

Philip
 

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Alek Manoah received inflammation shots in his throwing arm, and he is officially done for the season. From a mental standpoint, at least he will be able to show his face with playing the inflammation card. I personally think he’s an out of shape crybaby quitter, that sucked out and didn’t know how to deal with hitters laying off his slider at the major league level.

Philip
In terms of baseball, he probably never had to deal with adversity. He just shot up through the ranks like crazy. Failing is a new phenomenon for him and he didn't know how to deal with it.

Seeing as he could possibly be a huge asset for the team, I suspect that they'll be working to get him back to where he was, both physically and mentally. It's too early for them to give up on him.
 

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In terms of baseball, he probably never had to deal with adversity. He just shot up through the ranks like crazy. Failing is a new phenomenon for him and he didn't know how to deal with it.

Seeing as he could possibly be a huge asset for the team, I suspect that they'll be working to get him back to where he was, both physically and mentally. It's too early for them to give up on him.
I wouldn’t give up on him either. Clearly, he has shown himself to have the talent. He has all the resources to put in the work and get in shape, etc. etc. I think it all really comes down to Alek and how bad he wants it.

Philip
 

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I wouldn’t give up on him either. Clearly, he has shown himself to have the talent. He has all the resources to put in the work and get in shape, etc. etc. I think it all really comes down to Alek and how bad he wants it...

Philip
...and if he's mature and disciplined enough.
 

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Also Roy Halladay had some success at the Major League level, then struggled bad, got sent down, figured things out and was fine for the rest of his career.
Didn't Doc pitch a no-hitter in the World Series?

If Manoah doesn't show commitment to the Jays, then I would say fangula to him.
 

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Yanks tried to give this away at the end but the Jays weren't having it.

In truth Springer made two spectacular catches that had he not made them this game would have been a blowout.
 
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I'm not so sure about that, and if they do it won't be as vehemently as now. Look at tennis where the ball goes even faster. The players have just accepted the technology immediately. A player may occasionally but mildly question the call and they'll show it on the big screen, but there are never any McEnroe type outbursts. They know that it's futile arguing against a machine.

Bobby Cox's record for ejections will be safe until the end of time.
One major difference is the boundaries in tennis are physical, visible on the playing field, and unchanging. The strike zone is an imaginary box that "hangs" in the air and is open to interpretation. Players and managers may not argue with the ump on the field like they used to, but they will still complain.
 

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One major difference is the boundaries in tennis are physical, visible on the playing field, and unchanging. The strike zone is an imaginary box that "hangs" in the air and is open to interpretation. Players and managers may not argue with the ump on the field like they used to, but they will still complain.
To whom?

I understand your point, though.
 

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In terms of baseball, he probably never had to deal with adversity. He just shot up through the ranks like crazy. Failing is a new phenomenon for him and he didn't know how to deal with it.

Seeing as he could possibly be a huge asset for the team, I suspect that they'll be working to get him back to where he was, both physically and mentally. It's too early for them to give up on him.
If he'll work with The Jays. Reading between the lines there seems to be a lot of animosity between his camp and The Jays. Hopefully, he can get into shape and both sides can un-poison the well.
 

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Also Roy Halladay had some success at the Major League level, then struggled bad, got sent down, figured things out and was fine for the rest of his career.
But, Roy actually went down and figured things out. Manoah refused to report for 2 weeks and then wouldn't pitch when he did report (though I doubt there's a single photo of him actually with The Bisons.

The original report was issue with back, knee and right quad. Now out of the blue it's shots for inflammation in his shoulder/arm. Seems like he (and his team) are looking blindly for an injury, especially since I believe the medical work now being done is outside of The Blue Jay organization.
 
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