He still has trade value. There's always a team out there that will take a chance with a young pitcher like that who was dominant for the better part of two years. Especially since we all know what the problem is. He simply just pitched to much. He went from 111 IP's to 196 IP's. That's a huge jump for a pitcher that young. At this point in time, any soreness in his arm doesn't appear to be anything major or it would have been diagnosed a long time ago. I think he even knows that which is probably why he didn't want to go to Buffalo. Obviously the Jay's won't get the same return for him they would have a year ago, but we wouldn't having this convo if he was still pitching like that. First thing first, if the Jays don't make it past the first round in the playoffs, never mind just getting in, Atkins is gone. So depending on what happens there, it will play a role in Manoah's future. If Atkins gets to keep his job, Manoah probably gets moved. If a new GM comes in, it's a new relationship so who knows...
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He still has trade value. There's always a team out there that will take a chance with a young pitcher like that who was dominant for the better part of two years. Especially since we all know what the problem is. He simply just pitched to much. He went from 111 IP's to 196 IP's. That's a huge jump for a pitcher that young. At this point in time, any soreness in his arm doesn't appear to be anything major or it would have been diagnosed a long time ago. I think he even knows that which is probably why he didn't want to go to Buffalo. Obviously the Jay's won't get the same return for him they would have a year ago, but we wouldn't having this convo if he was still pitching like that. First thing first, if the Jays don't make it past the first round in the playoffs, never mind just getting in, Atkins is gone. So depending on what happens there, it will play a role in Manoah's future. If Atkins gets to keep his job, Manoah probably gets moved. If a new GM comes in, it's a new relationship so who knows...
Wholeheartedly agree. This one is on Schneider. I guess whatever he sent Pete Walker out to talk about didn't work...
You could tell Romano was struggling and I can see no reason why they didn't pull him for Mayza when there as a lefty coming to bat, apart from some crap like he didn't want to put Mayza in a high leverage spot.
Come on bro. No athletes do that unless they physically can't perform. There's no way Romano was going to pull himself.
I think he did the opposite when Pete Walker came out before the Lowe at bat. He would have told Pete he was fine.
Our bats are alive. THEY'RE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Frankenstein reference)
At the end of the broadcast Dan Shulman said the Jays magic number is down to 5.
Vlady has an outside shot at 30 HR and 100 RBI. Not bad for a bad season.
At the end of the broadcast Dan Shulman said the Jays magic number is down to 5.
Vlady has an outside shot at 30 HR and 100 RBI. Not bad for a bad season.
On Springer’s inside the park homer, Margot was loafing after the ball after it went off the wall (he should have caught it too). Compare that to the hustle that Springer, Varsho and Kiermaier demonstrate on every fly ball. The Rays looked very sloppy in this series, Jays should have won all three.
Romano has never been very effective on consecutive saves.
Back to back jacks, that's how you support the pitcher, that's how winnin is done! Springer making like Devon White around the bases for the inside the park homer and Vladdy's moonshot to dead center were very impressive.
Can we say the malocchio (evil eye) at Tropicana is finally off the Jays?
Back to back jacks, that's how you support the pitcher, that's how winnin is done! Springer making like Devon White around the bases for the inside the park homer and Vladdy's moonshot to dead center were very impressive.
Can we say the malocchio (evil eye) at Tropicana is finally off the Jays?
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He's 36 out of 40 this year in saves (90%) including 27 in a row.
Hicks is 12 of 15 this year (80%) and career 32 of 44 (72.7%)
Swanson is 4 of 6 this year (66.6%) and career 10 of 17 (58.8%)
MLB Save Leaders:
Emmanuel Clase 42 saves in 54 opportunities (77.8%)
C. Doval 38 out of 46 (82.6%)
D. Bednar 37 out of 40 (92.5%)
A. Diaz 37 out of 40 (92.5%)
Seattle is 2.5 games behind the Blue Jays, (3 in the Win column). Their remaining 7 games are at home, against the Astros, (3), and the Rangers, (4). Houston has 6 road games, Seattle, (3), and the Arizona Diamondbacks, (3), who currently hold the 2nd National League Wild Card slot. Texas has 7 road games, at Angels, (3), and Mariners, (4).
Unless they die in the last week, the Rangers should win the division, and claim the first round playoff bye, as they are four wins ahead of Minnesota Twins, who play the A's and Rockies, home and away, 3 games each.
The best scenario for the Jays is for them to win 2-3 games this week, and take the #3 Wild Card, meeting the Twins in round 1. The Orioles, two up on the Rays, play Washington and Boston in the last week. The Rays, most likely, would face the Astros or Mariners. I think the Jays would have a better chance of advancing by playing in Minnesota, rather than playing at Tampa Bay, or hosting the Astros.
Unless they die in the last week, the Rangers should win the division, and claim the first round playoff bye, as they are four wins ahead of Minnesota Twins, who play the A's and Rockies, home and away, 3 games each.
The best scenario for the Jays is for them to win 2-3 games this week, and take the #3 Wild Card, meeting the Twins in round 1. The Orioles, two up on the Rays, play Washington and Boston in the last week. The Rays, most likely, would face the Astros or Mariners. I think the Jays would have a better chance of advancing by playing in Minnesota, rather than playing at Tampa Bay, or hosting the Astros.
Maybe it will be like last playoff season when Leafs fans were "happy" to play Florida instead of Boston in the 2nd round.
As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
I think The Jays will end up in the second wild card spot.
For a couple of weeks it has looked like The Mariners are going to be the team out the wild card playing both Texas and Houston to finish out the season. It's the Texas series, the one that just finished (where they were swept), and the 4 game one at the end of the season that will seal The Mariners fate. Also, after getting swept by The Royals at home The Astros don't seem capable of anything better than the 3rd wild card spot. And they are definitely not the team they were last season.
I'm not too worried about facing The Rays. The Jays should have swept that series at The Trop and The Rays are beat up and seemingly dropping like flies. There's only so many cards The Rays can play and the cards seem mighty thin these days.
Best thing for The Jays is to keep winning and clinch a wild card spot before the last game of the year, so they can rest Gausman for Game 1.
At one point yesterday, Dan stated the magic win number during the broadcast and not the magic number..., while they are often the same number, they can also be different if the opponents have head to heads.
Our magic number is at 5 with both Houston and Seattle. This means a combination of our wins or their losses.
Our "magic win" number is now at 3, since we know that one of Houston or Seattle must lose at least 2 games due to head to head.
Some have stated our magic number with Houston at 4 since we have the tiebreaker over them -- that is incorrect - problem is that if Texas struggles and there is a 3 way tie, we would then be trumped by Houston and Texas.
There is no evidence that Romano struggles more on back to back days. In fact in his career he is quite a bit better with no rest as compared to 1 day rest.
Source- baseball reference
In back to back games Jordan Romano has an ERA of 2.28 and a WHIP of 1.08 in his career (3 HR in 43 innings).... these are quite a bit better than his stats with 1 day rest (3.32 and 1.12 and 9 HR in 59 innings).
His numbers this year, are a bit worse with no rest (2.92 ERA, WHIP of 1.38)
Source- baseball reference
In back to back games Jordan Romano has an ERA of 2.28 and a WHIP of 1.08 in his career (3 HR in 43 innings).... these are quite a bit better than his stats with 1 day rest (3.32 and 1.12 and 9 HR in 59 innings).
His numbers this year, are a bit worse with no rest (2.92 ERA, WHIP of 1.38)
Magic win number vs. magic number. I'd better listen more closely, not that I'd have noticed a difference. LOL
So many highlights from yesterday's game, I neglected to mention El Gran Capitan's epic pick off at first.
I didn't detail what I meant about Vic Romano. If he pitches one inning on consecutive games, his record is very good. If he pitches more than one inning the game before, his record is not so good.
This year has been problematic for Vlady, pitchers were getting called strikes with garbage pitches against him. We didn't see him hit a line drive dinger until mid-August. That's his bread and butter, it means he's seeing the ball well. For the Jays to be successful in the playoffs, the batters behind him have to pick him up.
Mark DeRosa loves the team he retired with.
I didn't detail what I meant about Vic Romano. If he pitches one inning on consecutive games, his record is very good. If he pitches more than one inning the game before, his record is not so good.
This year has been problematic for Vlady, pitchers were getting called strikes with garbage pitches against him. We didn't see him hit a line drive dinger until mid-August. That's his bread and butter, it means he's seeing the ball well. For the Jays to be successful in the playoffs, the batters behind him have to pick him up.
Mark DeRosa loves the team he retired with.
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