Israel at war

shack

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Nothing Hamas has ever done is anywhere near as evil as what you back here every day.
I think that sacrificing 30,000 innocent civilians lives by instigating violence over and over again against a superior force and getting the same result, and then using them as pawns/human shields is not only utterly evil but also barbaric, extremely fucking stupid and insane.

It seems we may have a slight difference of opinion.
 

shack

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Yes, eventually.
Just like they did with South Africa.
No, they will not.

S. Africa was not a strategic and vital regional ally to the U.S., nor to any world power. There was no downside to boycotting SA.

Israel has played their hand very well. In the last 75 years of this land being granted to them by the UN they developed an ultra-scientific, western style democratic society in a region where no such other entity exists.
 

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I think that sacrificing 30,000 innocent civilians lives by instigating violence over and over again against a superior force and getting the same result, and then using them as pawns/human shields is not only utterly evil but also barbaric, extremely fucking stupid and insane.

It seems we may have a slight difference of opinion.
No, we agree genocide is evil, the only difference is that you use the wife beater's defence and try to blame the victims.
You blame Palestinians for being occupied, for living under apartheid, for having their land stolen and now for living through genocide.

Nothing Hamas has done is anywhere near as evil as the shit Israel is doing and you are cheering on.

 

shack

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These guys are a bunch of losers.
They've won every war they've been in.

They're winning this war on the ground, in Western Democratic support, in the courts and in the halls of power.

Hamas is only winning in the number of deaths of their own civilians that they have caused.
 

Frankfooter

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No, they will not.

S. Africa was not a strategic and vital regional ally to the U.S., nor to any world power. There was no downside to boycotting SA.

Israel has played their hand very well. In the last 75 years of this land being granted to them by the UN they developed an ultra-scientific, western style democratic society in a region where no such other entity exists.
No, Israel develops weapons to destroy democracies and kill people all around the world.
That's all they are good for.

 

Frankfooter

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They've won every war they've been in.

They're winning this war on the ground, in Western Democratic support, in the courts and in the halls of power.

Hamas is only winning in the number of deaths of their own civilians that they have caused.
I'm sure thats what Germany was saying in 1945 as well.
Nothing Hamas has ever done is anywhere near as evil as the shit you defend here.



 

shack

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No, we agree genocide is evil,
But we have different definitions of genocide. Yours is influenced by your hate of Israel and all Jews, the same as your bastardized definition of "apartheid".

the only difference is that you use the wife beater's defence and try to blame the victims.
You blame Palestinians for being occupied, for living under apartheid, for having their land stolen and now for living through genocide.
The committed relationship of a husband and wife can only be compared to Hamas and the Gazans. They are intimately connected and have agreed to live together, blissfully and help each grow together and prosper. But Hamas abuses the Gazans.

Israel is nothing more than the neighbour next door separated by a fence, which Hamas continues to disrespect. Israel has to take action to have that boundary respected. Hamas is causing the suffering that the Gazans have to endure. They keep cheating on their wife by spending too much time at the neighbour's place and trying to fuck them.

Thanks for providing that very appropriate analogy of a husband and wife even though you didn't use it properly.

Nothing Hamas has done is anywhere near as evil as the shit Israel is doing and you are cheering on.
That's nothing more than your biased opinion.

Regardless of who has perpetrated more evil in this current conflict that began Oct.7, Hamas set this all in motion. If they got more than they bargained for, that's on them.
 

Frankfooter

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But we have different definitions of genocide. Yours is influenced by your hate of Israel and all Jews, the same as your bastardized definition of "apartheid".
Yes, I use the same one the UN and ICJ are using in their reports and ongoing cases dealing with Israeli genocide.
You think that doesn't apply to zionists for some reason.


The committed relationship of a husband and wife can only be compared to Hamas and the Gazans. They are intimately connected and have agreed to live together, blissfully and help each grow together and prosper. But Hamas abuses the Gazans.

Israel is nothing more than the neighbour next door separated by a fence, which Hamas continues to disrespect. Israel has to take action to have that boundary respected. Hamas is causing the suffering that the Gazans have to endure. They keep cheating on their wife by spending too much time at the neighbour's place and trying to fuck them.

Thanks for providing that very appropriate analogy of a husband and wife even though you didn't use it properly.
Israel are the neighbours who broke into your house, forced you to live in the basement for 16 years, then when you tried to break out they decided to kill you, your family and everyone you know.

That's nothing more than your biased opinion.

Regardless of who has perpetrated more evil in this current conflict that began Oct.7, Hamas set this all in motion. If they got more than they bargained for, that's on them.
Only Israel is being charged with genocide.
You cannot be any more evil than committing genocide, that's the most evil act humans can do to other humans.
And here you are cheering it on.

Nothing Hamas has done is anywhere near as evil as what Israel is doing today.
 

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No, they will not.

S. Africa was not a strategic and vital regional ally to the U.S., nor to any world power. There was no downside to boycotting SA.

Israel has played their hand very well. In the last 75 years of this land being granted to them by the UN they developed an ultra-scientific, western style democratic society in a region where no such other entity exists.
Florid fantasy
 

shack

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No, Israel develops weapons to destroy democracies and kill people all around the world.
Advanced science and a democratic society where there is no other, has served Israel well.
That's all they are good for.
Even if you were correct, which you are not, it's enough for the US and the rest of the Western democracies to support Israel's efforts. That's the bottom line.
 
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