Hot Pink List

Israel at war

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
Just report him, he tried with insults a few times until I reported him. Its usually when they're losing a debate or drunk.
I am loathe to report name calling. I have not been the most genteel sort in these debates.

I'll point out and/or highlight the name calling, but I won't report it.

But I was being honest. I thought it was a clever play on words, my favourite kind of humour.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
How many have to die before the zionists are stopped?
Ceasefire now.
How many have to die before you call for Hamas to surrender.?

Israel IS winning easily.
Nobody is helping or will help Hamas against the "Zionists". LOL
Israel will not be stopped.
Israel WILL win.
Israel will not agree to a ceasefire until Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages.

Those are all truths.

These are more truths:
You don't want Hamas to surrender.
Ergo, you want more Palestinians to die.

The only question is how many will satiate your bloodlust?

It sounds like 500,000 is not enough for you. You want more Palestinian than that to die.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
Imho I think the US is putting pressure on Bibi to tone it down, given the images of Gaza on television and social media, plus the violence against the Americans in the West Bank and by the Houthis' aggression against various nation's ships...
Possibly to a certain extent.

Keep in mind, Biden's public statements are probably quite different than when he talks in private to that cutie, Nettie. He has to, at least, give the appearance of being tougher on Israel and their domination of this war. The truth is that the U.S. and most Arab nations in the area want Hamas gone. They will approach this conflict in terms of what is best for them.

All countries always are looking out for #1.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xmontrealer

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
96,043
24,619
113
Hamas should outsmart them.

If Hamas surrenders that would spoil Net's plan. The war would be over and Israel would have to stop fighting.

Tell everybody here: Do you prefer Hamas surrendering or do you prefer that they keep fighting so 500,000 more will die?

Keep in mind, Israel will not accept a ceasefire, they will accept a Hamas surrender. Should Hamas surrender or should they keep fighting?
Why doesn't Israel outsmart them and declare they won?
Or are they busy just building the case for genocide instead?

 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
96,043
24,619
113
  • Like
Reactions: Klatuu

Leimonis

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2020
10,247
10,140
113
Possibly to a certain extent.

Keep in mind, Biden's public statements are probably quite different than when he talks in private to that cutie, Nettie. He has to, at least, give the appearance of being tougher on Israel and their domination of this war. The truth is that the U.S. and most Arab nations in the area want Hamas gone. They will approach this conflict in terms of what is best for them.

All countries always are looking out for #1.
The question is what Biden would decide to be best for him
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
None of that is relevant or in any way justifies collective punishments, carpet bombings, death or genocide. Heck, it does not even justify considering ALL Gazans as Hamas combatants or possible Hamas combatants. That is racist. That is islamophobic. That is a war crime. That is in violation of international law. That is morally bankrupt. That is genocide. That is evil.



American settlers in the west bank are some of the worst humanity can offer up. They are not any different from the Hamas.

None of that is relevant
It's 100% relevant. You love dismissing out of hand, anything that will not fit your narrative. It's easier than actually debating it.

or in any way justifies collective punishments,
Lie. Hamas is using human shields.

justifies car pet bombings
Nothing justifies Oct. 7. This retribution was caused by Oct. 7.

genocide.,
In your imagination. It's a big lie in an attempt to stir up more Anti-Israeli rhetoric.

Heck, it does not even justify considering, ALL gazans as or or possible Hamas combatants.,
Nobody does.

That is racist.,
Wanting to see Israel wiped off the map is racist.

That is islamophobic.,
Israel is fighting Hamas, not the Muslim people. It's kind of funny how you just now conflated Hamas with the Muslim people. That is just what you accused others of doing.

That is a war crime. That is in violation of international law. That is morally bankrupt. That is genocide. That is evil.
That is loser talk is what it is.

If any country in the entire world is fighting for its' very existence they will resort to whatever means are at their disposal to survive. India would nuke China in a heartbeat if they felt it was necessary to survive.

THIS IS WAR. Neither side will play fair.

Oct. 7 was not fair. It's a war crime.
Using civilians as human shields is not fair. It's a war crime.

Which side is worse or which side does it more is irrelevant. It's war. Ham ass butts are getting kicked big time. They are the big time losers.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
The IDF said they'll be fighting for a year.
Do you think that means they beat Hamas?
No. I think it means that thousands more Palestinians will die while Hamas refuses to surrender. Did you say that you'd be satisfied with 500,000 dying or were you looking for more? I wish Hamas would surrender tomorrow and no more Palestinians would have to die in this war.

But a Hamas defeat is inevitable. Which country is sending in reinforcements to help Hamas. Gaza is surrounded. How will Hamas get more weapons? The Hebrew writing is on the wall for them. In the end Hamas will be the ones wailing at that wall. Well, maybe just their supporters because the Hamas vermin will have been exterminated.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
62,644
7,076
113
So why is it going to last for another year?
Because Hamas hides among civilians and Israel isn't willing to just wipe everyone out (no matter how much you claim it's a genocide)

Israel will appear at International Court of Justice: Israeli media
Hillarious.

South Africa who rejected the ICC warrant against Putin now wants to use the legal infrastructure for their benifit.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
62,644
7,076
113
I agree. But why don't you prescribe that for the more powerful Israelis, and support a one state solution?
...
Sorry but I believe in democracy and self determination so if only 5% of Palestinians and 11% of Israelis support a One State peace and much of the Palestinian leadership are VIOLENTLY opposed to it, it's a non-starter.

I support pressuring both sides to negotiate a peace that they can live with, not dictating to them something that both sides hate.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xmontrealer

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
Why doesn't Israel outsmart them and declare they won?
Or are they busy just building the case for genocide instead?
That makes absolutely no sense.

You whine about what's (understandably) happening to the Gazans but refuse to call for what is in their best interests. A Hamas surrender.

You have so much hate, blood must be pouring from your eyes. Your posts are becoming nonsensical.
1704167995706.png
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
62,644
7,076
113
The majority of these guys are just stupid. Do these guys even know that Gaza and West Bank is not entirely Muslim and there are Palestinian Christians?
Way fewer than there used to be. At the same time, Israel's Christian population is growing.

And both the PA and Hamas define their Palestine as an Islamic state ruled by Islamic Law. Not that you and Frank care what Palestinians say.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
The question is what Biden would decide to be best for him
Understood, but the US needs Israel for the protection of their national interests. Aside from the radicals on either side, both parties support Israel. There are no viable alternatives in that regions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xmontrealer

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
53,951
11,810
113
Toronto
Page 26

They reference all the reports, UN, HRW, Amnesty, B'tselem and others.
Enjoy.
initiating proceedings against Israel for violations of the Genocide Convention.
So, that's what I said. This motion deals with only the "Genocide" Convention.

Even though apartheid is mentioned in passing, apartheid is not part of the actual motion. They are complaining about "genocide".
 
Toronto Escorts