That’s just a nonsensical word salad.
Talk about the depopulation of the indigenous Palestinian population. There is ample scholarship and documentation available.
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Talk about the depopulation of the indigenous Palestinian population. There is ample scholarship and documentation available.
But Israel does not have the legal right to self defence against the people they occupy in the first place.
The occupation is illegal
The blockade is illegal
Every settlement is illegal
Apartheid is illegal
You can't then use the claim that there are human shields to kill civilians.
If shack held you at gunpoint as a human shield the cops in Toronto would not be justified in killing you both to get squeezer.
Same in Gaza, you can't kill 70% women and children and then claim you were only aiming at Hamas.
Even if that were the case then its still the war crime of disproportionate response.
If that were the case.
Not to mention the seige that has blocked all food, water and power.
That is clearly targeting all the people in Gaza including civilians.
Of course not, Israel should open the gates and welcome Hamas and its fighters in for some coffee and crumpets.
ps...Squeezer would never be in the open or among the civilian population. It's the brothels that would have to be deeeeeep underground for everyone's safety.
You miss my point, which is that you have to deal with the current population mix - which is 73% Jewish - if you're going to realistically and pragmatically discuss the future and its alternative choices.
Can I make it any simpler for you? Or is even this still a "word salad"?
Piers Morgan made the point that this might represent only a small % of the Gazan population.
But the counter-point is that there has been no push back from Gazans who oppose this sort of behaviour. If folks were to behave like this in Canada, there would be massive denunciation of this behaviour. In Gaza, it simply doesn't occur.
All that stuff is perfectly legal, except perhaps for the settlements, which are - unfortunately - winked at by the Israeli government.
But Shack wouldn't routinely go out to mass murder and rape and then surround himself with women and children and yell "Fuck you, war criminal!" at the police who try to arrest him.
But that wouldn't work, would it?
Because the Palestinians hate the Jews and are influenced and dominated by extremist Islamic groups like HAMAS.
If shit like 7 October didn't take place, you might have an argument.
Look at the Muslim regimes in the Middle East and tell me if you love them:..... Iran - repressive, vicious, fundamentalist Islamic theocracy; Saudi - repressive, vicious, fundamentalist Islamic monarchy; Syria - repressive, vicious, dictatorship, riven with civil war; Lebanon - recovering from decades of sectarian strife; Turkey - repressive, vicious, fundamentalist Islamic pseudo democracy.
It's not as though Israel is right next to France and Belgium. peaceful, tolerant, democratic countries.
And all those Muslim countries hate Israel. How long would it take before Palestinians vote to drive out the Jews, if they had the vote in Israel?
Still a word salad. Deal with the forced depopulation of the original Palestinian inhabitants and all that follows from it. Its real. It’s fully documented and resources are at your fingertips. It’s covered by international human rights law. It will explain why the percentage of Jews is 73%. It will explain why millions of Palestinians lost their homes and property.
There is nothing real or pragmatic about ignoring it. It’s racist and delusional.
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You know there's free speech and all but then there's a call for action.
Many people lose their homes and property in every war, like those Syrians. No point arguing who is an "original inhabitant". If they had won in 1948, the jews would have lost their homes and property.
Would you fight for the human rights of those original inhabitants of Carthage after they got destroyed by Rome? Would you move back to Africa where your ancestor was an "original inhabitant".
Don't bring up "international human rights law" unless somebody could somehow enforce it.
Civil uprising my fucking ass
The following is a partial list of civilian casualties in the Second Intifada.
According to the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, 887 (78 percent) of the 1,137 Israelis killed in attacks from September 2000 – 2005 were civilians.[1] Another 8,341 Israelis were wounded during this period, including 5,676 civilians and 2,665 security forces personnel.[2] The majority of casualties were caused by suicide bombings, though Israelis have also been killed by planted bombs, shootings, stonings, stabbings, lynchings, rockets, and other methods of attack.[2]
According to B'Tselem, in the ten years from 2000–2010, of the 6371 Palestinians killed by Israeli forces, at least 2996 did not participate in hostilities when killed, and 1317 were minors. Out of 1083 Israelis killed, 741 were civilians (124 minors).[3]
