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Kautilya said:
The evil in this world are the colonizers - such as the British colonization of almost the entire world, the US illegal invasion of Iraq, Israeli brutalization of the Palestinians, and the Russian brutalization of the Ukrainians. And also, yes, terrorists like the Hamas, ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

However, Palestinians are civilians. You should be supporting them against the colonial oppression they are being subjected to. Being pro-Palestinian, is the morally correct position. Being pro-Israel, is supporting a state currently engaged in brutalizing a poor, disenfranchised people. That is immoral.
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I sympathize with Palestinian civilians but the reality is their government doesn’t give a shit about them and axis of evil which is Russia and Iran are using them for their evil purposes.
So as far as I am concerned it’s not the israel that’s killing them. It’s hamas and Iran.
 
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Kautilya said:
However, Palestinians are civilians. You should be supporting them against the colonial oppression they are being subjected to. Being pro-Palestinian, is the morally correct position. Being pro-Israel, is supporting a state currently engaged in brutalizing a poor, disenfranchised people. That is immoral.
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I suggest you give this a good watch.
 
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Kautilya said:
you can try to spin this and say Hamas started it. But since the war has started, the law applies EQUALLY to Hamas and Israel and Israel is still responsible for those deaths. They are committing war crimes (and so is Hamas).
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I don't buy hamas numbers and if Israel commits war crimes I'll wait for the proof. Meanwhile IDF seems to be doing a good job as far as I am concenred.

Also - I don't know much about Palestinian or Gazan culture (if such a thing even exists seeing that they don't have their language or even a dialect etc) but it seems that what they know how to do is to complain and get money from everyone in the world. So all their complaints are super suspicious to begin with.
 
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Kautilya said:
Yet another example of racism and utter Nazi like contempt for people with a different skin colour and religion. Despicable is an understatement.
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I like their religion. It allows to have up to 4 wives from what I understand. Seems pretty good.
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Oh I watched this yesterday. I suggest you read about Douglas Murray. Here from wikipedia. People like him always have problematic and racist far right views.

A number of academic and journalistic sources critical of Murray have accused his ideology and political views of being far right, alt-right and Islamophobic. His fans have described him as a defender of free speech.

Murray has been accused of putting a socially acceptable face on what would otherwise be considered fringe ideologies. In 2012, Arun Kundnani wrote in an article for Security and Human Rights that the "counterjihadist" ideology expressed by Murray and other conservative intellectuals was "through reworking far-right ideology and appropriating official discourse... able to evade categorisation as a source of far-right violence". British writer Nafeez Ahmed argued in Middle East Eye that Murray's support for free speech in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo shooting and the January 2015 Île-de-France attacks was "really just a ploy for far-right entryism". In 2019, an article in Social Policy Review described Murray's views as a kind of "mainstreamist" ideology that defies easy categorization as extremist while remaining "entangled with the far right".

Murray has been accused of promoting far-right conspiracy theories, including the Great Replacement theory, he Eurabia conspiracy theory and the cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. However, he has indicated that he dislikes the term "cultural Marxism".
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So he's a gay far right conspiracy theorist,lol.........Come on now.
 
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Kautilya said:
The evil in this world are the colonizers - such as the British colonization of almost the entire world, the US illegal invasion of Iraq, Israeli brutalization of the Palestinians, and the Russian brutalization of the Ukrainians. And also, yes, terrorists like the Hamas, ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
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You can't spend your entire life blaming the British for owning your country 70 years ago. That's OVER.

Take a little responsibility for how non whites fucked up far more than the British did. Like Zimbabwe.

Kautilya said:
However, Palestinians are civilians. You should be supporting them against the colonial oppression they are being subjected to. Being pro-Palestinian, is the morally correct position. Being pro-Israel, is supporting a state currently engaged in brutalizing a poor, disenfranchised people. That is immoral.
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You're so fixated on "colonialism" and "white oppression" that you are not seeing what 90% of the people in this thread are seeing - HAMAS launched an UNPROVOKED attack on Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself and eliminate HAMAS.

THAT'S why everyone except you, Frankie and Klaatu are rooting for Israel. Not because those board members "are Jews" or because "they need to be popular". It's because they're DISGUSTED by what HAMAS did and they think that Israel has a right to ensure that doesn't take place again.

No one is cheering for the Gazans to be killed or "collectively punished". You IMAGINE that people want that because that plays into your sad little fantasy of "white colonial oppression". The IDF is allowing the Gazans to flee the war zone and we're all glad about that.
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I do. I provided rebuttals based on history, past actions and international law, which you seem to not consider. You just keep saying "nope". You can say that. But that doesn't change international law or Israel's politics.
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So get out of your little "freedom fighter" fantasy world and start seeing what's actually at stake in the Middle East.
 
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Kautilya said:
Why is it a problem if they want to live that way? What is the need to hate them for it?
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my problem with all organized religions is that they are generally stupid and corrupt. But the one that allows 4 wives seems less stupid than others!
 
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xmontrealer said:
Actually 2 wives were way more than enough for me... :geek:
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I think the trick is to have them all at the same time so they would self regulate and organize
 
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Leimonis said:
Well as far as I am concerned you and other virtue signallers in this thread and elsewhere just help the evil in this world, first and foremost Iran.
Every pro Palestinian demonstration or action helps Iran and also helps Russia.
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Israel is the evil in this world right now.
 
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The Oracle said:
www.mmafighting.com

Video: Pro-Palestine protesters trap ex-UFC champ Jamahal Hill in New York City

Jamahal Hill and his team were briefly caught up in pro-Palestine protests in New York City on Friday.
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The pro Hamas crowd has shut down traffic in midtown Manhattan for the past two nights.

Slashing tires and causing mayhem.....How long before these fanatics cause major damage and death.
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How long would it take them to kill 11,000 and destroy 50% of the buildings in Manhattan?
Until then that's an acceptable amount of death and destruction for a supporter of Israel, isn't it?
 
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mandrill said:
You can't spend your entire life blaming the British for owning your country 70 years ago. That's OVER.

Take a little responsibility for how non whites fucked up far more than the British did. Like Zimbabwe.



You're so fixated on "colonialism" and "white oppression" that you are not seeing what 90% of the people in this thread are seeing - HAMAS launched an UNPROVOKED attack on Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself and eliminate HAMAS.

THAT'S why everyone except you, Frankie and Klaatu are rooting for Israel. Not because those board members "are Jews" or because "they need to be popular". It's because they're DISGUSTED by what HAMAS did and they think that Israel has a right to ensure that doesn't take place again.

No one is cheering for the Gazans to be killed or "collectively punished". You IMAGINE that people want that because that plays into your sad little fantasy of "white colonial oppression". The IDF is allowing the Gazans to flee the war zone and we're all glad about that.

So get out of your little "freedom fighter" fantasy world and start seeing what's actually at stake in the Middle East.
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Nothing says demented like peppering your response with endless phrases in quotes and multiple words in bold and different font sizes. No one talks seriously about issues in this manner….its borderline unhinged.
 
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Leimonis said:
I don't buy hamas numbers and if Israel commits war crimes I'll wait for the proof. Meanwhile IDF seems to be doing a good job as far as I am concenred.

Also - I don't know much about Palestinian or Gazan culture (if such a thing even exists seeing that they don't have their language or even a dialect etc) but it seems that what they know how to do is to complain and get money from everyone in the world. So all their complaints are super suspicious to begin with.
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I know some Palestinians, the culture is pretty rich despite 75 years of oppression. You can't imagine what its like for people with family there. Or maybe you can and you don't care, you'll just support killing their families regardless.

Palestinian numbers are good, they've had international aid workers helping them survive and 5 slaughter in the last decade to practice counting bodies. This time the counts are likely way under since so many are buried in the rubble right now. The IDF says its 20,000 a week ago.

The UN says you are supporting killing mostly women and children.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1723452119964086661
 
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