Israel at war

Darts

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"BREAKING: Axios reports that a US Marine Corps 3-star general is advising the Israeli military on its Gaza ground operation"

Urban fighting can be brutal and unpredictable. Examples from WW II are Stalingrad and Berlin.

The Americans have had recent experience taking Fallujah. The unknown is how Hamas will fight. If they fight like the Afghan army it will be a cake walk. On the other hand........................
Fallujah during the Iraq War - Wikipedia
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The numbers confirm that the Israeli military is much more prolific at slaughtering, burning and dismembering children. And they have for a long long time.

The numbers don’t lie. You do, but they don’t
The only liar here is you
 

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Another poster actually used him as a reference. Isn't that hilarious? The two of them make a great comedy team. They are a distraction from what is a serious subject.
You just can't stop thinking about me.
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BTW, this could have been a two for one. You were turtling until you were able to come out from behind someone's skirt. You needed Anbarandy to get brave.

Ahh, what the hell.
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mellowjello

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CNN's Jake Tapper just confirmed live on air they have seen video evidence of Israeli children being murdered, and babies burned alive by Hamas. For obvious reasons they won't air this on cable TV
They need to provide some kind of evidence, I'm not taking CNN's word on anything, they can make the most outlandish accusations
and we have to take it at their word?
Is there anything showing Trapper making these comments, I can't find anything.
 

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You are so scrambled up. You can't tell the difference between an analogy and a description of fact. You overstate your points, and refuse to narrow them when it's pointed out to you that you are arguing against straw men of your own design. You're mostly on the right side of this issue, but you're not a good spokesperson because you are so confused.
@Kautilya He's not far off, particularly with "refuse to narrow" & "arguing against straw men of your own design". I'm not saying I agree with you but you could be awesome argumentatively but you refuse nuance and complexity.
 

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They need to provide some kind of evidence, I'm not taking CNN's word on anything, they can make the most outlandish accusations
and we have to take it at their word?
Is there anything showing Trapper making these comments, I can't find anything.
But you, Frank and a few others, more than willing to take anything coming out of Gaza at Hamas word.

 
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But you, Frank and a few others, more than willing to take anything coming out of Gaza at Hamas word.

No I'm not, who told you so?
Do you have any proof about the Trapper story?
There are accusations about Israeli soldiers massacring Israeli captives.
I don't know if that's true, if there's proof I'll consider it.
Do you have any proof about babies being burned alive?
 
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No I'm not, who told you so?
Do you have any proof about the Trapper story?
There are accusations about Israeli soldiers massacring Israeli captives.
I don't know if that's true, if there's proof I'll consider it.
Do you have any proof about babies being burned alive?
So images released aren’t convincing enough?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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No I'm not, who told you so?
Do you have any proof about the Trapper story?
There are accusations about Israeli soldiers massacring Israeli captives.
I don't know if that's true, if there's proof I'll consider it.
Do you have any proof about babies being burned alive?
Tapper said it live on the air, dude.
Why would I make this up??!!!

Go watch CNN tonight at 6pm, I'm sure they will repeat it
 

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I’ve also found this
In another video, first responders are seen pouring bottled water over still-smoldering bodies, hoping to snuff out the remaining embers
several charred human remains including those of young children,
guidance of manuscripts” found on killed and captured Hamas terrorists, the primary force of which was from the group’s Nukhba commando unit.

“It’s this idea that they would take all measures, [even] against Islam, to not allow the existence of Israelis, wherever they are, [including] Bedouins, Arab Israelis, foreigners,” Hagari said.

Why does a person take a GoPro [to such an attack]?
Because they are sick, barbaric animals.
 
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dirtyharry555

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Many things in life aren't easy. Sometime you need a lot of motivation to do the right thing. In this case, the motivation to live, rather than die under the despotic rule of maniacs.
I just don't think this is a realistic take given the dynamics over there.

Why didn't the Italian Americans get rid of the mafia in NYC that terrorized their own people? It took the US government to go in and they did so only because the mafia began taking over too many legitimate institutions.

Why haven't Black Americans risen up and dismantled the Bloods and Crips and other gangs that infest urban neighborhoods that cause nothing but pain, suffering, and fear to all law abiding Black residents?

The examples above are small fry compared to the situation overseas, where the people are not only fearful but have to choose between two groups that treat them like garbage - Hamas & the Israeli government. They get rid of Hamas, the Israeli government will still piss on them (figuratively and literally). If they just go on trying to live, they do so under Hamas rule which is no better.

Perhaps a better analogy would be Germans citizens that stood up to Hitler's rise to dictatorship. We know what happened to them.
 
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