Keep debating Valcazar, pleeaase.Just quoting some random posts, out of context, to troll. I told you, your posts were lazy and unintelligent.
I can literally feel your anger, frustration and teeth grinding, after having not just lost so many exchanges with me but thoroughly embarrassing yourself by admitting to dubious things about yourself in the process.
Israel at war
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Not good news for POS Nation
m.jpost.com
Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman: US likely unable to assist Israel in war with Hezbollah
Gen. Brown asked Israel to think of how a war would affect the region, as well as the impact it would have on US forces.
m.jpost.com
If they could poison the air, they would. That’s the fanatical ethos of Ziontologists.
Thus justifying your support of genocide by categorizing even women and children as subhuman 'terrorists'.
You really are no different than nazis now, along with all the zionism defenders at this point.
‘It is a war against children’
Khaled Quzmar, the general director of the child rights organisation Defense for Children International Palestine, has said the atrocities committed against children in Gaza are unprecedented.
Quzmar talked to Al Jazeera from Ramallah after UK-based Save the Children called for an investigation into Gaza’s missing children, stressing that 21,000 children were estimated to be lost, disappeared, detained, buried under the rubble or in mass graves as a result of the Israeli operation in Gaza.
“We are working in this field for more than 30 years, but what we are witnessing [in Gaza] is at a level that we did not see during the second world war,” he said.
“It is a war against children. Children in Gaza are the big cost of the Israeli genocide in Gaza,” Quzmar said.
“Children are also subjected to war crimes and crimes against humanity,” he stressed, adding: “The fundamental rights of the children in Gaza are violated systematically and continuously by the Israeli army.”
Biden is acting as if he is against the genocide to the US, while aiding it and enabling it to defend a guy who is actively working against his own reelection chances. Who thought Idiocracy could come to life with two presidents at once.
Netanyahu openly Reneges on Ceasefire, Stabs Biden in Back, Charging US cut off Weaponry
PARTIAL ISRAELI BUCKET LIST?
Driving the Palestinians out of their homes has been the principle mission of modern zionism from the outset. Bibi is itching to bomb Beirut, next. Military experts are warning that Israel maybe heading into turbulence. The day after Hezballah aired its drone video a reported 68000 people flew out of Ben Gurion; you may assume that these weren't returning tourists. Earlier this winter Israeli stats cited 500000 as the number of citizens making reverse aliya and 30-40k reservist were being called back from abroad. Bibi appears in congress soon to bite JRB, you know where. Who knows the tail may yet succeed in wagging the dog into bombing Iran.
Is Lebanon Israeli settlers’ next frontier?
From the blog of James M. Dorsey at The Times of Israel
blogs.timesofisrael.com
Mister "I think War Crimes are a positive good" throwing stones in his glass house here.
LOL
Because you have said that the entire point is to punish him.
He supported genocide, therefore he cannot be supported, regardless of what else that means.
I could go all Weber and talk about "ethics of conviction" or "ultimate ends" but I'm pretty sure that's a level of discourse that would be wasted here.
What on earth are you talking about?
The Gaza protests aren't going to change the electoral system and have no aim to do so.
They are entirely irrelevant to that point.
When have I been against pressuring the party to enact change?
That's exactly what I say should be done.
Right - "Biden must be punished, and then he and the Dems will learn" is your theory (when you aren't just saying it is a pure principle of "cannot vote if X").
My argument is that you are wrong about the electoral consequences given history. (And because unlike you, I am not focused entirely on the next 4 years.)
I also object - as you know - to the "Everyone must suffer until I get what I want" theory of politics you are espousing here.
What I have stated is it's an inevitably that the two sides will never make peace. So I chose a side. One I am quite comfortable making.
You, along with the Democratic leadership, continue to gaslight the fact you also realize this, fully support arms shipments, and the long slow inevitably of Israel winning with the Palestinians either surrendering in full or no longer there. It will take decades but this is what is going to happen, with the West's help. Its carried over US policy.
Fence sit and all you get is a piece of wood up your ass. The Dems tried to fool their base and have failed.
If you think war crimes are bad why are you supporting a party that is facilitating them? I just see them as an inevitably of war. The notion civilians won't be killed in a war theatre is ridiculous. So I don't play the fake hand wringing game.
It's either no war, or guaranteed "war crimes". That's the truth.
You are either naive or an unrepentant liar. This is entrenched USA policy to let this happen, use attacks by Palestinians to do military operations via the IDF, with the purpose of complete control of Gaza and the West Bank. Just like the Golan Hights.
Biden is the one in power, and he represents the continuation of the policy. So he gets the blame.
You have already said that he still couldn't be supported even if that happened.
Also that it would have stopped on its own because you don't expect it to continue.
Also that everything will be exactly the same under Trump so in fact none of this has any effect at all no matter what.
Are you going to pick one of these theories at some point?
Ahh, we are going to stick to this theory, then?
You still think "The pro-Israel side winning the election will teach the opposing party that they should be less pro-Israel"?
Have you... looked at US electoral history?
So to answer this.
1) I don't see any reason to believe your theory of cause and effect should be true.
2) I see even less reason to inflict suffering on people short term in order to get your preferred long-term result.
I do understand that "Look, you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs" is a thing some people believe and even embrace.
But doubling down on that on the hope - unsupported by evidence - that it will be worth it in the end isn't really my jam.
Interesting.
So how is it going to look, extrapolating from what you are seeing in that fight?
Even if he stops the war, which you think he can stop?
He just needs to go, no matter what?
We're back to "Biden must me made an example of and punished" I see?
It isn't my sole argument.
Are you even reading?
No, repeatedly voting third party in tiny amounts isn't going to change policy, even long term.
You would need impressive numbers.
But even then, you have a serious problem in that you have NOT ONCE proposed what people should do instead.
If they stay home, no one knows why and so they don't get counted.
If they vote for RFK - he is more pro-Israel than Biden and possibly even than Trump.
If they vote Stein in massive numbers, maybe you get a signal.
Or maybe voting West.
But if the idea was to make a serious statement, there would be a coordinated effort to rally behind a pro-Palestinian candidate with it being clear that is why they are getting that support.
Outside of one poll in one state that hasn't been repeated, we haven't seen that and their certainly hasn't been any such attempt to create a coordinated message.
Hell, you - in all your "But We ARE CHANGING THE SYSTEM" hasn't even thought to bring it up.
Ahh, we are back to "It's all right because nothing bad will happen because Trump is incompetent".
While I think this is ludicrous wishcasting, at least it is better than "No, everyone SHOULD suffer if they don't agree with me".
This is just "If I wish and pray really hard, I won't have to feel bad about what I helped cause happen! (even if I think it is ok because my hands would be clean because I don't understand voting systems)"
Are you under the impression these are Federal police and that the US Government is deporting them?
