Your definition of terrorism is tribal or racial.
Its based on your views of the people, not the acts.
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Its based on your views of the people, not the acts.
Yet you happily call Palestinians 'terrorist' without investigations.
Don't be a terrorist sympathizer, call it out when it happens on both sides.
Otherwise you and Hamas are one and the same.
Well, hasn't that worked well for the last 54 years of the occupation.
How many more decades do you think before it does work?
How many more do you have to kill for peace?
Are you going to have to use nukes?
Yes, your definition of 'terrorist' is based entirely on race.
Gaza is the size of Montreal.
Imagine if this happened to Montreal.
THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS ======================================= The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the
HAMAS Covenant: Goals of the HAMAS: ------------------ 'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel: ----------------------------- 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble) The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: ---------------------------------------- 'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.' (Article 11) 'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad: ------------------ 'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15) 'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.' (Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement: ------------------------------------------- '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty: ---------------------------------------------- 'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
Anti-Semitic Incitement: ------------------------ 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7) 'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.' (Article 22) 'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32) 'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'
Looks like Jews of Israel have nothing to worry about.....right Franky?
Where in my statement did I say palestinians are terrorists? I already mentioned palestinians and jews are victims of terrorism from Hamas...remove them and there won't be any suffering...read their manifesto...they never wanted peace...
No, your definition is clearly based on race.
Have you once called out Israeli acts as terrorism?
Like:
The Huwara Pogrom
Settler attacks on Palestinians
The Great March of Return
IDF targeting hospitals, schools and UN shelters?
Check the 2017 charter, its different.
Then compare that to the LIkud Charter and tell me how different they both are.
But far better is to think of ways of stopping this fucking stupid violence.
More violence and more demonizing of either people won't lead to peace.
Make both sides stop.
Investigate them both, charge the leaders of both.
Then work to end apartheid.
Israel has cut off all water, food and power to Gaza.
Stop the violence before Gaza is turned into a death camp.
why are hamas holding hostages? if they release them, Israel might give in to the supplies for Gazans... Hamas is holding the gazans and some israelis hostages....Check the 2017 charter, its different.
Then compare that to the LIkud Charter and tell me how different they both are.
But far better is to think of ways of stopping this fucking stupid violence.
More violence and more demonizing of either people won't lead to peace.
Make both sides stop.
Investigate them both, charge the leaders of both.
Then work to end apartheid.
Israel has cut off all water, food and power to Gaza.
Stop the violence before Gaza is turned into a death camp.
Hamas endgame is never make peace with the Jews.... do you support that?
Ok Roger Waters, you do you.Before this attack Israel had already killed 200 Palestinians this year. Why would you think Palestinians wouldn't respond?
How long do you expect them to keep living under apartheid in a shrinking land area?
More than 200 Palestinians, nearly 30 Israelis killed so far this year: UN
UN Middle East envoy Tor Wennesland says deaths from violence so far this year are the highest recorded since 2005.www.aljazeera.com
The answer is not violence.
Its the end of apartheid.
And who do you propose the Israelis sit down and break bread with at this juncture? I've actually had sympathy for Palestinians but they don't get to play the victim card this time and they surely aren't sitting on any moral high ground. Do you want pics/photos posted of dead Israeli kids at a rave, babies and the elderly? Or want to just stipulate? I hate this mess too, but one side has NEVER offered anything but misery and death. Find me a legit peace offer made by true representatives of these refugees since Arafat told Barak to get bent?
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Daddy Trudeau just declared Hamas as terrorists and doesn't represent the Palestinians and he supports Israel's right to defend itself....welp...everyone scoring points here...Check the 2017 charter, its different.
Then compare that to the LIkud Charter and tell me how different they both are.
But far better is to think of ways of stopping this fucking stupid violence.
More violence and more demonizing of either people won't lead to peace.
Make both sides stop.
Investigate them both, charge the leaders of both.
Then work to end apartheid.
Israel has cut off all water, food and power to Gaza.
Stop the violence before Gaza is turned into a death camp.
Yikes. Are you guys out of touch. You repeat the extreme right wing Zionist talking points like trained seals.
"you're out of touch" "you're brain-washed" yadda yadda yadda....there's a reason people don't engage you...you have nothing to offer but insults...
All religions are shit, fictional books have created a lot of the problems in the world today.
Na, not wasting time on this issue. I have no skin in the game and it's heavily maniupulated.
