Israel at war

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

you do realize that as a practical reality, the two states solution would allow palis to freely import weapons into their new country. With the current level of radicalization wouldn’t it be crazy for Israel to hope that this scenario is safe for them?

The 2 state solution can be implemented with security guarantees that involves demilitarization of Palestine. If the Palestinians had good advocates they would take that deal.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Well yes. That will be the inevitable result. I figure the West Bank has about 20 more years tops. Gaza longer. Golan Heights will be fully annexed after the West Bank.

As I've said. When you have two opponents who will not negotiate peace, with this much hate between both, there is only going to be a winner and a loser. Add on that the rest of the Sunni Muslims in the region hate their guts too for various reasons and their Shia Allies only consider them sacrificial pawns, and the West Govt have clearly allied with Israel, and really that is the end result.

It's not racist, or Islamophobia to state this. It's just using history and cold hard logic to show what is going on. A full year, and not one govt has stepped in with real military aid. Rocket fire isn't going to cut it. It's window dressing. UN statements are nice but useless.

Your bleating, along with others, about international courts, BDS and other whimsical notions of so called international condemnation is really just wind piss.

Too simplified. More than 7M people in West Bank and Gaza, are not going anywhere.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Hmm but how do you see annexation of West Bank or gaza? Where would local people go? I doubt it’s anywhere near as cut and dry or that easy.
Same with “free Palestine” - where would local people go? ( also wonder what would purple hair gen Z and all the other bleeding heart useful idiots say when palis would start slaughtering evil Juice? That it’s understandable and probably their fault for being settlers? I bet they’d find an excuse)

Iran, US, Russia, Saudi - no one is going anywhere.
It seems a lot more realistic that the conflict will continue and would never stop and all who are in power are benefiting from having a permanent enemy.

Realistic perspective. It is not easy to "get rid" of people. Once Netanyahu is voted out, there could be some solution.

 

[Klatuu]

The 2 state solution can be implemented with security guarantees that involves demilitarization of Palestine. If the Palestinians had good advocates they would take that deal.

Nonsense. That’s just a continuation of the cult fiction

 

[Klatuu]

In the case of the West Bank locals will either assimilate with Israeli citizenship, move to Gaza or move out, whether to Lebanon, West Africa, or a Western Nation where they have an in via family. Frankie is always posting his little maps showing the shrinking of it. Every year more settlers move in. It's why Israel cuts the Orthodox Jews so much slack. They have big families to draw on.

Once that area is completed the next will be Gaza. A lot will depend on the outcome of this war but I see a new security line at least maybe 5-10 Miles deep into Northern Gaza annexed by Israel at the least. In the long run? Man too many players and variables but you could end up with a scenario similar with what happened to the Tamil Tigers.

They are pawns being used to try to keep the West from getting full deals with Sunni Muslim Govts. The Palestinians have systematically lost allies due to their Shia terror ties and support of attempts at coups on Jordan and Egypt, and the invasion of Kuwaut. Nobody in the region wants them now, nor want to help them. They are playing the neutral game for now and letting Israel do their thing to placate the Arab in the Street.

But this is really just a stop. The larger fish is Iran. Both the West and Sunnis want it gone. They need to isolate them. Hence letting the Palestinians lose, Lebanon lose, Syria lose. It's what Afghanistan was partially about as well.

With the final game being Russia and it's resources.

Delusional

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Nonsense. That’s just a continuation of the cult fiction

You are being unrealistic.

 

[Butler1000]

No, I didn't read what you wrote, butthead. I'm not interested because I already know where you stand. BTW, it's a free country and I can quote you if I want. You're free to turn off the notifications or better yet, block me. I quote you every time I post in my siggy, are you gonna reply to every single one of my posts now? Lol.

Yes you did. Thanks for your continued support. And yes, feel free to continue that support by quoting me. I always appreciate my fans.

 

[whynot888]

You are being unrealistic.

His main goal is for all Jews to die.

 

[versitile1]

Yes you did. Thanks for your continued support. And yes, feel free to continue that support by quoting me. I always appreciate my fans.

Whatever you say butthead. Reality check. You got no fans, you're just some loser on a pooner board, who doesn't even poon, which makes you even more of a loser. Lol.

 

[Butler1000]

Too simplified. More than 7M people in West Bank and Gaza, are not going anywhere.

Closer to 5 million. And remember I gave an extended timeline. West Bank has about 85% Muslim population. Out of about 3 million. Many of those will chose to assimilate. They are peaceful and under pressure from extremists. The extremists will end up in Gaza, or dead as they expose themselves.

As for Gaza look up the Tamil Tigers and their final stand. Not a peep really out of them since.

Look at the slow but steady encroachment of settlements in both regions. The Palestinians are losing. Most won't fight. The outcome is a winner and a loser. The Palestinians have proven they can't self govern. They have never been anything but subjugated by various powers.

 

[Butler1000]

Whatever you say butthead. Reality check. You got no fans, you're just some loser on a pooner board, who doesn't even poon, which makes you even more of a loser. Lol.

Hey, just because I gave the real truth, why so glum? In the end the Palestinians will be better off. They can't self govern. They need someone to run things. The Israeli people will do good by them, once they settle down.

 

[versitile1]

Hey, just because I gave the real truth, why so glum? In the end the Palestinians will be better off. They can't self govern. They need someone to run things. The Israeli people will do good by them, once they settle down.

See above post.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Closer to 5 million. And remember I gave an extended timeline. West Bank has about 85% Muslim population. Out of about 3 million. Many of those will chose to assimilate. They are peaceful and under pressure from extremists. The extremists will end up in Gaza, or dead as they expose themselves.

As for Gaza look up the Tamil Tigers and their final stand. Not a peep really out of them since.

Look at the slow but steady encroachment of settlements in both regions. The Palestinians are losing. Most won't fight. The outcome is a winner and a loser. The Palestinians have proven they can't self govern. They have never been anything but subjugated by various powers.

The encroachment will end if someone other than Netanyahu with an intent of ending the conflict takes office. Assimilation is basically a one state solution. That may happen in Gaza too.

 

[Butler1000]

The encroachment will end if someone other than Netanyahu with an intent of ending the conflict takes office. Assimilation is basically a one state solution. That may happen in Gaza too.

You think it's only him involved? They are a minor piece being slowly dealt with.

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And that's just the bonus.

 

[Butler1000]

See above post.

Which coping one you made are you referring too? So many, all of which are not relevant.

 

[Leimonis]

The 2 state solution can be implemented with security guarantees that involves demilitarization of Palestine. If the Palestinians had good advocates they would take that deal.

I don’t see Hamas agreeing to demilitarization. That would be the end of them.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I don’t see Hamas agreeing to demilitarization. That would be the end of them.

Hamas cannot be negotiated with.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are being unrealistic.

There are only 3 real options, it seems.
1) The genocide continues until a final solution or WWIII
2) International sanctions drive Israel to abide by the ICJ ruling on the two state solutions.
3) International sanctions drive Israel to giving Palestinians the vote, this is now the least likely option, IMO.

Biden has supposedly said Israel can attack Iran but can only hit military targets, Iran has said they've responded to Israel's two attacks and consider themselves even. But if Israel responds at all they say they will strike back. A war means Harris loses, but does Biden even care about that at this point? Biden reportedly encouraged Israel to invade Lebanon, while publicly saying they back a ceasefire.

So far Israel has been able to almost take on 2 million refugees with no army living in a concentration camp and is now finding they have as yet been unable to take on even Hezbollah across the border. Iran would be a be a shitshow for everyone.

We are 4 days away from the 1 year anniversary. Global protests will be massive.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841907703142338840

 

[Frankfooter]

The encroachment will end if someone other than Netanyahu with an intent of ending the conflict takes office. Assimilation is basically a one state solution. That may happen in Gaza too.

Not Netanyahu, Biden.
Israel won't stop Netanyahu, this is what the extremists there have been wanting for a long, long time

Biden could stop it in a day if he wanted.
But even Harris and Walz back the 'expansion' of Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don’t see Hamas agreeing to demilitarization. That would be the end of them.

Without a military you create Bantusans.
Oh wait, that's what you want.

You want walled in Bantustans you can pretend is Palestine but then to still be able to control it like Israel controlled the Gaza concentration camp.