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Terrorist Organization Fatah Brags It Murdered 20 Israelis in 2022; 90% of Terrorist ‘Martyrs’ Were Fatah Members

When a terrorist is killed during his/her attack against Israelis, it is Palestinian Authority (PA) policy to claim that Israel summarily executed an innocent victim. This is done in order to maintain the demonic image of Israel as a “barbarian” and “evil entity,” which randomly kills Palestinians, and to convince the international community of Palestinian victimhood.

But at the same time, the PA and Fatah need to keep the so-called “resistance” alive — in other words, terrorism against Israel.

So in order to convince more Palestinians to choose terror and “Martyrdom-death,” the PA and Fatah promote terrorists as heroes and role models for society. The PA and Fatah do this to secure their internal image as bodies that “fight the occupation,” so as not to seem weak in comparison to the terror organization Hamas, which is steadily gaining popularity over PA leader Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah faction.

The following statement by Fatah Revolutionary Council member Muhammad Al-Lahham is an expression of such image polishing.

Talking about violent confrontations in Jenin — during which Israel killed 4 terrorists — Al-Lahham stressed Fatah’s great participation in terror. He bragged that “90%” of the terrorist “Martyrs” of 2022 “were Fatah members,” and also credited Fatah with murdering “20 Israelis,” commenting that “this is a source of honor” for Abbas’ movement:

Fatah Revolutionary Council member Muhammad Al-Lahham: “The four Martyrs [i.e., terrorist murderers], yes, it’s painful. The ascent [to Heaven] of these Martyrs is painful, but they are ammunition… If we speak about 2022, around 170 Martyrs ascended [to Heaven] … Most of those who died as Martyrs while resisting, 90% of them were Fatah members. Yes. If the number of those killed among the occupation [i.e., Israelis] was 20, Fatah is the one that carried out these operations. This is a source of honor for Fatah…

Fatah even emphasizes the need to punish the occupation, and the need to take revenge for the lives of the Martyrs through its military wings, and particularly the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades … Also all the current incidents [i.e., terror attacks] confirm that the members of the [PA] security establishment have a pure self-sacrificing national faith. They are a continuation of the Palestinian revolution.They are a continuation of Yasser Arafat, Salah Khalaf, Khalil Al-Wazir, and Saad Sayel.” [Emphasis added]

[Official PA TV, Topic of the Day, Sept. 28, 2022]

As seen above, Fatah official Al-Lahham also noted the key role played by members of the PA Security Services in terrorism against Israel.

Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) has exposed that the PLO and Fatah celebrate the terrorists who are part of the PA Security Forces — forces that are trained with US funding, among others.

The PA Security Forces’ role in terror against Israel was openly acknowledged by PLO Executive Committee member and Fatah Central Committee member Azzam Al-Ahmad at a ceremony commemorating former PA and PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat. He reminded the audience that PA Chairman Abbas had warned Israel that his security forces would “take action” against Israel:

[Al-Ahmad] added that two months ago President Mahmoud Abbas even asked the Palestinian [PA] Security Forces to inform the occupying government: “Do not be surprised if you discover that the Palestinian Security Forces are the ones who are taking action against you during your invasions of any refugee camp, or any village, or any farm, and during the theft of olives.”

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 14, 2022]

Fatah expressed its pride in the double role of the PA Security Forces in a video that highlights a member of PA military intelligence who murdered one Israeli, and a member of the PA Preventive Security Forces who shot at Israeli soldiers together with other terrorists. During the exchange of fire, one Israeli soldier was killed.

The video shows PA Security Forces members being given weapons and setting out on an operation. Text on the screen clarifies the primary task of the forces: “The Palestinian Security Forces: sacrifice, self-sacrifice, glory.”

“Self-sacrifice” is the term used for terror attacks, as the terrorists are willing to “sacrifice themselves” and die for “Palestine” while attacking Israelis. In text posted with the video, Fatah underscored the PA Security Forces’ participation in terror:

Posted text on Fatah Facebook page: “Let us recall our Martyrs together, the Martyrs of the Palestinian National [PA] Security Forces, who ignited the tunnel uprising [i.e., the Western Wall Tunnel Intifada] and the Al-Aqsa Intifada [i.e., PA terror campaign 2000-2005, with more than 1,100 Israelis murdered], and who to this very day are participating in the confrontation with the occupation from point-blank range.”

Text on screen: “[PA] military intelligence Martyr Ahmed Abed

[PA] Preventive Security Forces Martyr Daoud Zubeidi

Military intelligence Martyr Tayseer Ayaseh

Military intelligence Martyr Adham Aliwi”

Text on screen: “The Palestinian Security Forces: sacrifice, self-sacrifice, glory.”

[Official Fatah Facebook page, Sept. 18, 2022]

Similarly, top Fatah official and Central Committee member Abbas Zaki bragged about Fatah’s “heroic members of the prisoners’ movement” — i.e., imprisoned terrorists — and stressed that “many, many [PA] Security Forces members” were and are among them:

Posted text: “To those who accuse the Fatah Movement of not fulfilling its duty, of abandonment, and of defending the occupation — we say these are the heroic members of the prisoners’ movement who have spent dozens of years, including many, many [PA] Security Forces members, including those who have been released and those who are waiting for release soon. This is Fatah, which has sacrificed prisoners, wounded, and Martyrs for liberation and independence.”

[Fatah Central Committee member Abbas Zaki, Facebook page, Nov. 26, 2022]

When a Palestinian terrorist was killed during violent confrontations recently, the official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, highlighted the “genes of heroism” the “Martyr” shared with his “heroic” imprisoned uncle. The uncle was a member of the PA Preventive Security Forces and responsible for numerous shooting attacks during the PA’s five-year terror campaign, the Second Intifada, in which more than 1,100 Israelis were murdered in Palestinian terror attacks.

The author is a senior analyst at Palestinian Media Watch, where a version of this article was first published.

 

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Terrorist Organization Fatah Brags It Murdered 20 Israelis in 2022; 90% of Terrorist ‘Martyrs’ Were Fatah Members

When a terrorist is killed during his/her attack against Israelis, it is Palestinian Authority (PA) policy to claim that Israel summarily executed an innocent victim. This is done in order to maintain the demonic image of Israel as a “barbarian” and “evil entity,” which randomly kills Palestinians, and to convince the international community of Palestinian victimhood.
PMW is pretty vile.

Sadly, its not surprising you post from a site that tries to call all Palestinians 'terrorists'.
You don't realize that its used as a racist term, do you?
Just as you don't seem to understand that its extreme right wingers that are pushing antisemitism and racism.
 

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PMW is pretty vile.

Sadly, its not surprising you post from a site that tries to call all Palestinians 'terrorists'.
You don't realize that its used as a racist term, do you?
Just as you don't seem to understand that its extreme right wingers that are pushing antisemitism and racism.
last week you accuse me of slander and running to the moderators and you continue to slander me HYPOCRITE!


i never called all Palestinians terrorists one again you resort to slander.. i only called FATAH terrorists they admitted a 2 months ago they are returning to terrorism

Fatah Announces Return to Terrorism



WHY DO YOU ALWAYS LIE FRANKY!




The Federal Court of Canada agrees with me Fatah is a terrorist group. will franky slander Them claiming they said all Palestinians are Terrorists?


Man denied entry to Canada for being member of Fatah

The Federal Court of Canada has upheld a ruling by immigration officials that denied entry to the country by a Palestinian national because he was affiliated with Fatah, which it described as a terrorist group.

In a February ruling recently made public, the court found that the Immigration Division of the Immigration and Refugee Board was right to deny entry to Akram Muslih Anteer because he was once a member of Fatah, the largest political party in the West Bank.

The court upheld a definition of Fatah as a “terrorist” group, even though it is not recognized as such by the federal government.

Anteer, a national of the Palestinian Authority and resident of Sweden, arrived in Canada in April 2013 and claimed refugee status.

 
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last week you accuse me of slander and running to the moderators and you continue to slander me HYPOCRITE!


i never called all Palestinians terrorists one again you resort to slander.. i only called FATAH terrorists they admitted a 2 months ago they are returning to terrorism

Fatah Announces Return to Terrorism
Fatah are not terrorists.
That's Islamaphobic nonsense meant to justify violence against Palestinians.

Its easy to prove.
Tell me how you define terrorism.

And lets see who that definition applies to.
Are you man enough to test your moral position?
 

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Fatah are not terrorists.
That's Islamaphobic nonsense meant to justify violence against Palestinians.

Its easy to prove.
Tell me how you define terrorism.

And lets see who that definition applies to.
Are you man enough to test your moral position?

franky once again admitted his support for terrorism using the islamophobia card

Fatah ADMITTED THEY ARE RETURNING TO TERRORISM


Fatah Announces Return to Terrorism


Earlier this week, Palestinian terrorists — one a member of the Western-funded Palestinian Security Services — shot and killed an Israeli officer, before they were killed themselves.

Palestinian Authority (PA) official media outlets and the Fatah party — both headed by Mahmoud Abbas — have responded with support for the attack that killed the Israeli office

Fatah Announces Return to Terrorism | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com



Fatah Calls For Renewed Terrorism Against Israel
Fatah official declares 'the rifle is here,' Abbas's party ready to leave talks and return to armed combat at any time.


Fatah Calls For Renewed Terrorism Against Israel | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva



Man denied entry to Canada for being member of Fatah



The Federal Court of Canada has upheld a ruling by immigration officials that denied entry to the country by a Palestinian national because he was affiliated with Fatah, which it described as a terrorist group.

In a February ruling recently made public, the court found that the Immigration Division of the Immigration and Refugee Board was right to deny entry to Akram Muslih Anteer because he was once a member of Fatah, the largest political party in the West Bank.

Palestinian man denied entry to Canada for being member of Fatah (thecjn.ca)
 

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franky once again admitted his support for terrorism using the islamophobia card

Fatah ADMITTED THEY ARE RETURNING TO TERRORISM
Chill out, CM.
I did no such thing.

I'm asking you to define 'terrorism'.
From over here it looks like you think its based on race.
Is your definition of terrorism really based on race?

Or would you accept the UN definition?
Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them.

Then feel free to list the acts that you think make Fatah 'terrorist' and we can discuss this civily.
 

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Why on earth do you keep making such ridiculous straw man claims?
Seems you don't know the definition of straw man.

You keep demanding palestinians be made Israeli citizens with equal rights but the Palestinian people overwhelmingly reject the concept. Just amore of your racist elitism thinking the Palestinians can't decide on their own or be accountable for their choices.

3) Why would you say Palestinians 'hate' equal rights?
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And then there is their leadership that is quite clear on the concept.




You mean you want me to find posts that confirm your racist claims...
Either that or live with the reality that you're full of shit. You keep claiming I'm racist for referring to terrorist groups as terrorists (while at the same time accusing Israel of terrorism - that asinine double standard again)



All it shows is how your claim to support the two state solution is stupid.
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You presented a map you know that Israel would never agree to use.
First, the UN (who you say you support) says a negotiated Two State peace is the only way forward.
Second. Everyone (excluding Hamas etc) have agreed that land swaps will be part of an eventual deal. the only questions are where and how much.




No, the two state solution is dead. 78% of Palestinians think its not going to happen.
And that's a problem worth commenting on.

Even ignoring the leaders who reject the concept of Jews living in the region, Palestinian polling shows they reject an egalitarian One State peace and reject a Two State peace. What does that leave?


Keep pushing your racist BDS bullshit even when you know it completely goes against the idea of self-determination that you pay lip service to.
 

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PMW is pretty vile.
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BDS is pretty vile. What's your point?


Fatah are not terrorists.
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Factions are.
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I'm asking you to define 'terrorism'.
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Attacks intentionally targeting civilians for political gain. That's why Fatah's offshoot, hamas, PIJ, and others are on Canada's list of designated terrorist entities.
 

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Seems you don't know the definition of straw man.

You keep demanding palestinians be made Israeli citizens with equal rights but the Palestinian people overwhelmingly reject the concept. Just amore of your racist elitism thinking the Palestinians can't decide on their own or be accountable for their choices.


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And then there is their leadership that is quite clear on the concept.
There you go again pushing the old one state/two state debate.
Palestinians don't trust Abbas and they don't trust the Israeli government, so instead they back BDS.
82.8% of Palestinians support BDS.

So why do you keep pushing a plan that only 37% back and claiming you speak for Palestinians?
You speak for apartheid, you speak for colonial occupation, repression and settlers.



Either that or live with the reality that you're full of shit. You keep claiming I'm racist for referring to terrorist groups as terrorists (while at the same time accusing Israel of terrorism - that asinine double standard again)
No, you're wrong.
I claim you're racist because you support apartheid, which is as racist as you can get.
You can't be claiming to be against racism when you're defending apartheid.




First, the UN (who you say you support) says a negotiated Two State peace is the only way forward.
Second. Everyone (excluding Hamas etc) have agreed that land swaps will be part of an eventual deal. the only questions are where and how much.
78% of Palestinians say its not happening.
Why do you keep pushing a plan nobody has talked about in a decade?
Oh right, because then you can keep pretending to support peace while you watch and cheer for more land theft through your racist colonialism.


Keep pushing your racist BDS bullshit even when you know it completely goes against the idea of self-determination that you pay lip service to.
1) Its a Palestinian movement, no need to push it only to support it.
2) You have repeatedly said you support Palestinians not having the right self determination, as happens now in apartheid Palestine.
3) BDS is anti apartheid, that's as anti-racist as you can get.
 

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BDS is pretty vile. What's your point?



Factions are.

Attacks intentionally targeting civilians for political gain. That's why Fatah's offshoot, hamas, PIJ, and others are on Canada's list of designated terrorist entities.
Factions of the Israeli government, including the new Interior Minister, are Kahanists.
Terrorists as identified by Canada.

Which means by your terms the Israeli government is a terrorist government.
Because factions are terrorists.

Congrats, what are you going to do now?

Israel Election | Kahanist Ben-Gvir Celebrates: I Am Not PM Yet
According to some witnesses present at the Otzma Yehudit headquarters where Ben-Gvir spoke, the crowd chanted 'death to Arabs' alongside the more prevalent calls for 'death to terrorists'
 

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Iran has stopped channeling funds to a number of Palestinian factions, the Palestinian newspaper Al-Quds revealed on Sunday.

The paper quoted unnamed informed sources in Lebanon as saying that the factions are currently suffering from a financial crisis because of the Iranian move, which was taken three months ago.

The sources did not name the factions that have been affected by the move.

 

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franky once again admitted his support for terrorism using the islamophobia card

Fatah ADMITTED THEY ARE RETURNING TO TERRORISM
The Israeli government now includes a convicted terrorist.

Ben Gvir was convicted by Israeli courts of supporting terrorism and spreading hatred. He threatened the life of former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in the run-up to his assassination. Now, he's taking over the ministry of national security, giving him control over policing in Israel and the West Bank.

Are you against terrorism or are you really just against Palestinians?
 

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There you go again pushing the old one state/two state debate.
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Right. What other option is there? Either they stay in this status quo, live together with equal rights, or have their own states. I know that many in the Palestinian leadership see a forth option where Jews are eliminated from the region but even you wouldn't openly suggest that as a possibility. Your push for BDS at best just propagates the status quo.

If Palestinian leadership and Palestinian polling rejects the first 3 options, what's left?

The rest of your post is just more of your rabid anti-Israel, terror supporting trash trying to pretend everyone else is the problem.
 
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Factions of the Israeli government, including the new Interior Minister, are Kahanists.
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Are you saying that having a similar philosophical basis as a designated terrorist entity makes someone a terrorist? Interesting. I guess the entirety of the Palestinian leadership are terrorists then.

And of course you complain about a racist Israeli party that earned 5% of the vote while being absolutely silent on the the racist terrorist group that was supported by 45% of Palestinians while a party with a terrorist wing earned 41% of the vote. More of your asinine racist double standard.
Why is you condemn Israel because a small racist party but are silent about huge racist parties among Palestinians?

It's telling how pathologically incapable you are of admitting any flaws in Palestinian leadership or admitting that they have some culpability for the situation.
 

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Right. What other option is there? Either they stay in this status quo, live together with equal rights, or have their own states. I know that many in the Palestinian leadership see a forth option where Jews are eliminated from the region but even you wouldn't openly suggest that as a possibility. Your push for BDS at best just propagates the status quo.

The rest of your post is just more of your rabid anti-Israel, terror supporting trash trying to pretend everyone else is the problem.
What happened to South Africa after they ended apartheid?
Did it become two states or did it continue on with the big difference being equal rights and a more representative democracy?
You're deathly afraid of that, because of your racist views that Palestinians are genocidal, aren't you?

Retired general Golan put it well.
“The Palestinian issue threatens to tear up Israeli society from within. There is no more controversial issue than the future of the territories. No other issue has caused so much political violence in Israel, and no issue requires reaching decisions as tough as those required by the Palestinian issue.

“In fact, Israel has two options, one destructive and the second very difficult. Israel must choose– the sooner, the better– annexation or separation.

“Remember that, annexation or separation. These are the only two options looking ahead to the future. Annexation will destroy the Zionist dream. Between 2.6 to 3.2 million Palestinian people live in Judea and Samaria [biblical term for the West Bank]. 2.1 million Palestinians live in the Gaza Strip. The messianic right in Israel aims to annex Judea and Samaria, reoccupy Gaza and rebuild Gush Khatif [settlements in Gaza]. It’s crazy.

“This messianic vision is a complete madness. Israel’s only chance is to choose the option of separation. I will not explain now, but separation can be implemented practically…
 

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Are you saying that having a similar philosophical basis as a designated terrorist entity makes someone a terrorist? Interesting. I guess the entirety of the Palestinian leadership are terrorists then.

And of course you complain about a racist Israeli party that earned 5% of the vote while being absolutely silent on the the racist terrorist group that was supported by 45% of Palestinians while a party with a terrorist wing earned 41% of the vote. More of your asinine racist double standard.
Why is you condemn Israel because a small racist party but are silent about huge racist parties among Palestinians?

It's telling how pathologically incapable you are of admitting any flaws in Palestinian leadership or admitting that they have some culpability for the situation.
Israel's new Interior Minister is a convicted terrorist and part of a party that Canada recognizes as being 'terrorists'.
Israeli settlers regularly commit terrorist acts.

For years you've claimed that Israel is morally superior and the only democracy in the middle east.
Its not democratic, its an apartheid state with elected terrorists leading it with an army that backs terrorist attacks meant to colonize what could have been the two state solution.

Its not a fringe party, its a party that holds power and the Interior Ministry chair.
Ben Gvir was convicted by Israeli courts of supporting terrorism and spreading hatred. He threatened the life of former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in the run-up to his assassination. Now, he's taking over the ministry of national security, giving him control over policing in Israel and the West Bank.

Now you're trying to argue that Israel is only just a tiny, teensy bit terrorist so its ok.
Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN say Israel is apartheid.

You've seen this coming for a long time.
How long can you keep defending it?

Why won't you just join the fight to end apartheid and put equal rights in place?
 
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again you resorts to slander when you are proven wrong and backed into a corner
There is no slander.
I asked you a question.

Are you against terrorism or just against Palestinians?
Why can't you answer?

Why won't you just join the fight to end apartheid and put equal rights in place?
 

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There is no slander.
I asked you a question.

Are you against terrorism or just against Palestinians?
Why can't you answer?

Why won't you just join the fight to end apartheid and put equal rights in place?

constantly repeating yourself is annoying and does not make it true

and since you like to slander and lie about my posts i will just list your anti-semitic and terror supporting posts for all to see



quoting the Palestinian Centre for Human Right who are linked to the PLPF terrorist organization







quoting btselem an anti-semitic website who was caught hiring holocaust deniers



racist towards me saying blacks cannot defend israel ignoeing the fact that over 180,000 black people reside in israel which includes 25,000
black americans. quoting jewish voice for peace that supports terrorism and was busted citing neo nazi and white supremacists websites





claiming that black persons cannot support Israel that have over 180,000 black people living there







justifying terrorists attacks against israeli and jewish civilians














supports the anti-jewish vandalizing of a business owned by a Jewish man and making excuses for it







promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region.







apologist for hamas the terror group






defending the PLFP terror group




refuses to condemn anti-jewish hate crimes commited by anti-jewish gangs







refuses to condemn the anti-semitic attacks on jewish shoppers at a supermaket in Thornhill, Ontario Canada.




franky continues to sink deeper and deeper into anti-jewish terrorism. franky defends a mapping project in Massacheusets
anti-jewish activists create a list of jewish organzations for anti-semitic purposes



more anti-black racism





supports and defend anti-semitic actions at the University of Wisconsin




franky butturt at the definition of anti-semitism because he is one





franky defends a terrorist that was killed in a shootout with the IDF





defends hamas claiming that it is islamophobic to call hamas terrrorists



defending an anti-semitic terror supporting rally




defending a terrorist attack against a security guard(security guards are civilians)



still refuses to condemn hamas





post anti-black racism to deflect from his support for terrorists and anti-jewish hate crimes



justified the murder of a security guard



franky resorts to slander defending the Fatah organization who admitted that they are a terrorist organization


 

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constantly repeating yourself is annoying and does not make it true

and since you like to slander and lie about my posts i will just list your anti-semitic and terror supporting posts for all to see
Sigh.

I just asked you a question.
And what do I get in response?
Slander.

We went through this before, I challenge you on any one of those claims.
We show its false and you were the doing the slander.
Then a week later you do it again.
So boring.

Why does asking you if you're against terrorism and apartheid make you so upset?
 
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